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Old October 27th, 2006, 04:10 PM   #1781
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When did CR Airways change its name? There actually is an Air Hong Kong. It's a cargo carrier.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 08:28 PM   #1782
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It kinda reminds me of DragonAir.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 10:54 PM   #1783
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posted by Pacifica from http://hkadb.no-ip.org:8080/hkadb/fo...g+kong+airways

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my friend said CR will change its name to Hong Kong Airlines Ltd.and the logo will become a flower----->洋紫荊 !!
everything will be announced on 28NOV.
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唔好放LEE隻野係香港機場好WOR。影響市容呀!
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Old October 27th, 2006, 11:05 PM   #1784
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Thursday December 22, 03:01 PM
Hainan Air to take 70 pct of HK's CR Airways


By Alison Leung

HONG KONG (Reuters) - The state-run parent of China's Hainan Airlines Co. Ltd. is in the process of taking a 70 percent stake in Hong Kong's CR Airways for HK$350 million (US$45 million), a source close to the deal said on Thursday.

CR Airways, a small carrier that is thinking big, signed an initial agreement earlier this week to buy 40 aircraft from Boeing with a combined catalogue price of US$3.3 billion.

The carrier now operates just three regional jets.

Hainan Air will hold the stake in CR Airways through a Hong Kong-incorporated company, Grand China Aviation Services, and will not need to forfeit the route rights held by CR Airways after the deal, the source said.

"It is still a Hong Kong company and managed by Hong Kong people," he said.

Earlier media reports have said Hainan would hold 60 percent of CR Airways. Both companies confirmed the talks but declined to comment on the size of the deal.

The new board will have six directors and Hainan Air will have two seats.

New CR Airways Chairman Chen Feng is also chairman of Hainan Air, while Robert Yip, founder and former chairman of CR Airways, is now executive vice chairman. Yip will hold about 30 percent of the company after the deal.

CR Airways has scheduled flights to secondary Chinese cities including Tianjin, Jinan, Nanning, Kunming, Haikou, Sanya and Guilin, competing with much-larger Hong Kong-based rival Dragonair, as well as several mainland carriers. It also has regional routes including Laoag, Subic Bay and Clark Air Base in the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam respectively.

The loss-making carrier said it will sign a formal acquisition agreement with Boeing in 2006 on the 40 planes. The company has said that it will raise funds from overseas to help finance the planes. It is also considering an initial public offering but has not set a timeframe.

"The airline will use the first plane delivery to fly Jinan and Tianjin," the source said.

CR Airways plans to use the new aircraft, with the first expected to be delivered in 2008, to expand to longer Asian routes serving markets including Japan and South Korea, and putting it into to competition with dominant Hong Kong carrier Cathay Pacific Airways.

Negotiating additional routes to China would take longer, he added.

CR Airways does not position itself as a budget carrier but its ticket prices are generally 8-10 percent lower than those of Dragonair and Cathay Pacific.

Shanghai-listed Hainan Airlines is 14.8 percent-owned by American Aviation Ltd., a company backed by financier George Soros, who had agreed to invest a further $25 million to double its investment in the Chinese regional carrier, mainland media said in October.

Hainan Airlines, China's fourth largest carrier, has received Beijing's approval to set up Grand China Air, which will hold Hainan's Shanghai-listed unit and other subsidiaries, a state-owned newspaper said last month.

The new company hopes to raise 5 billion yuan (US$620 million) via a private placement by the end of this year and plans to go public in Hong Kong next year, the paper said.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 05:43 AM   #1785
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OMG, I have never seen such a ugly logo like this............
Damned tackey is the only word I can say............................
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Old October 30th, 2006, 03:57 AM   #1786
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Ugly.......... who was the designer? espcially the icon.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 08:48 AM   #1787
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from http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5829865 by Colin Parker

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CR Airway's newest aircraft, and unlike the other two 737s operated by them, this one is mainly white. Delivered with white winglets, a new logo has now appeared on them. it is the logo of Great China Airways, the new name for the Hainan Airlines grouping. Although CR Airways will retain it's name, it seems that it will adopt the scheme of Great China. Perhaps this will be the first aircraft to carry the scheme!



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Old October 30th, 2006, 09:14 AM   #1788
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This is what I found:

The company is actually called “Grand China Airlines Group”.
Seems like both Hainan Airlines and Grand China Airlines will be sharing the same new logo. Because CR was taken over by Hainan Airlines, the new Hongkong Air’s logo will partial adopted from its mother company, which makes the monster like flower design that people dislike about.




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Old October 30th, 2006, 05:23 PM   #1789
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Now that Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has begun low-cost flights between London and Hong Kong ...
By ROGER COLLIS
29 October 2006
The New York Times

Now that Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has begun low-cost flights between London and Hong Kong, is Hong Kong a good jumping-off point for low-cost travel in Southeast Asia? Is there some kind of pass for flights between Hong Kong and Bangkok, Shanghai, Seoul or Tokyo? What is the best way to travel cheaply by air in this region? -- Susan Alloun, Montreux, Switzerland

Oasis Hong Kong Airlines ( www.oasis-air.com ) is starting to fly four times a week from London Gatwick to Hong Kong with introductory one-way economy fares from $:75 (about $143 at $1.90 to the pound) and one-way business class fares of $:470 -- competing with British Airways, Cathay Pacific and Virgin Atlantic on the route. I found a one-way economy fare for Nov. 5 at that $:75 and a business-class fare of $:470. The lowest one-way economy fare I could find on British Air for that date was a whopping $:756, and the cheapest one-way business-class fare was $:3,559.

But if you are planning to make several stops in Southeast Asia, your best bet may be to fly to Hong Kong with British Airways or Cathay Pacific, both Oneworld carriers (along with Aer Lingus, American Airlines, Finnair, Iberia and LAN), allowing you to buy a Oneworld Visit Asia pass. This will enable you to visit Bangkok, Beijing, Cebu, Denpasar, Fukuoka, Ho Chi Minh City, Jakarta, Karachi, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Mumbai, Nagoya, Osaka, Sapporo, Seoul, Singapore, Taipei, Tokyo and Xiamen. You can take 2 to 20 flights, and need only book the first sector in advance. There is a flat rate for each flight. For example, out of Hong Kong: to Bangkok, $145; to Singapore, $185; and to Tokyo, $260. Get details at www.oneworld.com .

The Star Alliance Asian Airpass ( www.star-alliance.com ) allows you to buy three to six coupons ($59 to $270, depending on distance flown). The pass is valid on Singapore Airlines, Asiana Airlines, Thai, United Airlines and Lufthansa, and must be bought in conjunction with travel to Asia on a Star Alliance carrier.

Another option is to shop for regional deals at Zuji ( www.zuji.com ), a travel site operated by Travelocity that offers flights from Hong Kong, Singapore, Korea, Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand. Other useful sites include www.thaifly.com in Bangkok, a good source of discounted flights and hotels; and www.travel.com.au , an Australian site with a great selection of airline deals around Asia Pacific. The Web site www.smarttravelasia.com will help you find some of the proliferating low-cost Asia-Pacific airlines.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 07:06 AM   #1790
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CR will officially be renamed as Hong Kong Airlines on November 28th, and it’s planning to purchase 30 more aircrafts, including 20 737’s and 10 787’s.

中富擬添30客機 辦倫敦線 月底改名香港航空 機隊規模直逼港龍

中富航空獲內地四大航空之一海南航空入股45%後,將正名為「香港航空」,以提供中低價機票為定位,並會大規模擴充業務。消息說,海航已購入20架波音737及10架787,可供中富運用,最快明年開辦香港往倫敦(相關新聞 - 網站)航線。增加30架客機後,中富規模直逼擁有29架客機的港龍。有了海航在背後支持,意味本港不再由國泰(0293)「獨霸天空」。

中富董事局消息指出,該公司已獲准改名為「香港航空」(下稱港航),並於本月28日舉行典禮,有機會邀得中央主理港事務的領導人來港主禮。消息指,海航耗資約150億元,購買30架全新客機,可供在港航使用。據了解,海航作為港航主要股東,可以把客機及機組人員租給港航。海航於海南島,設有自己的機師及空中服務員培訓基地。

海航入股後 支持大增

港航目前往內地的航點有7個,其網站稱,2006年冬季及07年春季計劃開通航線往大連、武漢、上海、北京等,國外航點仍是零,最新消息是剛獲批飛往韓國的大丘,地點鄰近釜山。消息指出,最快明年開辦往倫敦的航線。

對於明年開辦來往香港至倫敦航班服務,以及購置飛機、增聘人員等事宜,港航董事長任衛東接受本報記者查詢時未有加以否認,只表示一切計劃尚在研究。「所有計劃在落實之前,我們都會不斷修改及完善,有消息一定會公布。」

事實上,港航高級顧問歐鏡源早已表明開辦往歐洲及其他東南亞地區航線是集團明年的目標。而歐昨天接受查詢時又指出,於長程機方面,公司去年底與波音簽訂購買備忘錄當中的10架787波音飛機最快要至2009年才能付運,故集團目前研究引入的長程機種亦包括波音777,以及空中巴士的長程機系列等。

不過有港航管理層指出,集團明年付運的機種主要以737-800及若干中程機為主,長程客機未必能趕及明年付運,故能否開辦倫敦航線要視乎機隊的擴展進度。

海航未來會以香港為內地轉飛海外的樞紐,「壯大」港航,即可配合策略。據悉,海航發展方向獲中央支持。海航亦將重組及改名,計劃明年來港以H股上市集資。

海航重組後擬明年H股集資

現時香港與英國之間的航空協議,對兩地之間的航班沒有任何限制,所以若港航想申請開辦倫敦線,問題應不大,但須向空運牌照局正式申請牌照,及向港府申請航點。消息說現時港府的政策,一般都會支持有更多競爭。現時本港已有國泰及甘泉兩家公司開辦倫敦線。
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 07:17 AM   #1791
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Did CR ever resolve the issue with ownership, because its partnership with Hainan may disqualify it from being a Hong Kong carrier and enjoying the air pacts that Hong Kong has negotiated with other countries.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 06:58 AM   #1792
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Did CR ever resolve the issue with ownership, because its partnership with Hainan may disqualify it from being a Hong Kong carrier and enjoying the air pacts that Hong Kong has negotiated with other countries.
As far as I know, CR has fixed it.
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Old November 9th, 2006, 04:37 PM   #1793
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Shanghai Airlines to start flights to Hong Kong

SHANGHAI, Nov 7 (Reuters) - Shanghai Airlines Co. Ltd. said on Tuesday it would start operating daily flights between Shanghai and Hong Kong, joining only two other airlines on one of China's busiest and most lucrative routes.

The carrier has obtained regulatory approval and will schedule three return flights daily to Hong Kong from Nov. 28, an airline official said.

The route is now flown by China Eastern Airlines and Dragonair, which run 13 and 16 flights per day. Cathay Pacific Airways , which has agreed to take over Dragonair, has also obtained approval to fly the route.

A senior China Eastern executive said the route was among its most lucrative ones, with an annual load factor topping 80 percent.

Shanghai Airlines, which aims to double its fleet size in four years to roughly 100 planes, may bring in foreign strategic investors to help fund the expansion, chairman Zhou Chi told Reuters in May.
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Old November 10th, 2006, 05:09 AM   #1794
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HK Air Cargo Terminals Oct Throughput Rises 5.5% On Year
9 November 2006

HONG KONG (Dow Jones)--Hong Kong Air Cargo Terminals Ltd. said Thursday its throughput in October rose 5.5% from a year earlier to 240,798 metric tons on a growth in exports.

Hactl, which handles about 80% of air cargo passing through Hong Kong International Airport, said export volume in October rose 4.1% from the same month last year to 138,377 metric tons, while import volume increased 2.6% to 60,085 metric tons.

Transshipment volume in October rose 15% from a year earlier to 42,336 metric tons.

No year-earlier figures were available.

Hactl is jointly owned by Swire Group, Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd., Jardine Pacific Ltd., Wharf (Holdings) Ltd., Hutchison International Port Holdings Ltd., China National Aviation Corp., and CITIC Pacific Ltd.
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Old November 18th, 2006, 03:13 AM   #1795
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HK's HAECO in $41.5 mln landing gear repair JV

HONG KONG, Nov 17 (Reuters) - Hong Kong Aircraft Engineering Co. Ltd. (HAECO) said it would take a majority stake in a US$41.5 million joint venture that overhauls and repairs aircraft landing gear at China's Xiamen Airport.

HAECO said in a statement it would hold 50.2 percent and its non-wholly owned Taikoo (Xiamen) Aircraft Engineering Co. Ltd., would hold 12 percent of the joint venture.

The venture will have registered capital of $13.89 million, shareholders' loans of $10.97 million and bank loan financing of $16.64 million. The stakeholders will contribute to the registered capital in line with their respective holdings.

Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. , which owns 27.45 percent of HAECO, and Japan Airlines International Co. Ltd. will each own 9.9 percent of the venture.

Other partners include Xiamen Aviation Industry Co. Ltd, Xian Aircraft International Co. Ltd., and Shaanxi Liaoyuan Hydraulic System Co. Ltd.

Shares of Cathay Pacific rose 2.1 percent to HK$19.06 and HAECO gained 0.05 percent to HK$97.25 on early Friday morning. (US$1=HK$7.8)
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In fact, mainland transit passengers (ie. fly into HK and connect into China) are not the crucial customer segment for Hong Kong. Geographically, HK is a poor location for European and North American China-bound passengers.
But we have the numbers of flight and destinations that other Asia's airports do not have.

But I also see it will be different in the near future as China opens up the sky for foreign carriers. AA just starts its flight between the US and Shanghai.
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Passenger Traffic Sees Strong Growth in October

(HONG KONG, 19 November 2006) - Hong Kong International Airport (HKIA) experienced another busy month in October, as passenger and cargo traffic continued to rise.

Passenger volume increased 8.5% from the same period last year, to 3.9 million. Cargo throughput grew 3.4%, to 329,000 tonnes, indicating a strong start for the fourth quarter. Aircraft movements rose 3.4%, to 24,500.

For the 12 months ended October 31, passenger volume grew 8.7%, to 43.8 million. Cargo throughput and aircraft movements rose 5.9% and 8%, to 3.5 million tonnes and 279,000, respectively.

Airport Management Director Howard Eng said, "Origin, destination and transfer traffic experienced healthy growth in October, fuelled by buoyant regional demand. The persistent growth over the last 10 months gives us a strong base for another record-breaking year."

HKIA is committed to enhancing Hong Kong's status as a major international and regional aviation hub by introducing more choices for passengers, shippers and business partners. HKIA is pleased to welcome Oasis Hong Kong Airlines, the ninth new airline to begin serving Hong Kong this year. The fifth Hong Kong-based carrier and the world's first long-haul budget airline, Oasis began serving the Hong Kong-London route in October.
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A380 visits HK!
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Hong Kong's Dragonair adds Korean Busan to destination list

HONG KONG, Nov 20, 2006 (AFP) - Hong Kong airline Dragonair will next year add Busan in South Korea to its growing list of destinations, the company said in a statement Monday.

The Cathay Pacific-owned carrier will fly A320 aircraft three times a week -- on Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays -- between the southern Chinese city and South Korea's second metropolis, starting from January 19.

"Given that the city is a major marine and logistics hub, we believe the launch of regular services will benefit both business and leisure travellers," Dragonair chief executive Kenny Tang said in the statement.
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But we have the numbers of flight and destinations that other Asia's airports do not have.

But I also see it will be different in the near future as China opens up the sky for foreign carriers. AA just starts its flight between the US and Shanghai.
The China transit passenger segment should not be a major growth force for HKIA. Rather, making sure HKIA serves the HK area well should be the first priority. China's key cities are large enough to sustain an extensive international network on their own.
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