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Old August 12th, 2013, 09:55 AM   #1
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SOFIA | Tram

There is a thread about Sofia metro, so I think it will be best to open a separate thread about Sofia tram.

Sofia tram network was one of the largest in Europe. It opened directly as electric tram in 1/1/1901 (note the opening year, yes- 1/1/1), so 112 years ago. Networks expanded gradually, Untill 1986, the network was completely meter guage. In 1987, first standard guage tram line opened here. Currently, both MG & SG lines are present, and a little portion of the network has both type of line in same street, i.e. mixed guage.

Some termini has interchange facility with metro & suburban train.

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SG roling stock


MG roling stock


mixed track - I never see anywhere


POST AS MANY AS PHOTOS OF SOFIA TRAM HERE.
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Old August 12th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #2
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June 21, 2013 15:04 CEST

The Bulgarian municipality of Sofia said on Friday it has signed a 33.5 million euro ($44 million) deal with Polish railway vehicles manufacturing company PESA Bydgoszcz for the supply of 20 new low-floor trams.
http://wire.seenews.com/news/sofia-c...dgoszcz-360878

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The delivery will start in the next year.
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Old August 15th, 2013, 10:50 AM   #3
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Wow, this new tram is really stylish! It is urgently needed for Sofia.

There is a confusion. In wikipedia I saw Melbourne tram is 250Km in length and most calls it is the largest tram network of the world, but in wikipedia also I saw Sofia tram is 208 Km in length, and in the sam page, it writes that it has more than 300 km. network. I'm really confusued. What is the actual total length of Sofia's tram network? Please confirm.
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Old August 15th, 2013, 11:47 AM   #4
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According to the official site:
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The total length of the railways of 1009 mm track gauge at the end of 2006 year amounted to 169,000 m, and 40,000 m railways of 1435 mm track gauge.
http://www.elektrotransportsf.com/in...mid=74&lang=en
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Old August 17th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #5
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I saw that page. It writes -

As of 2002 the tram transport system has been transporting passengers articulated 16 lines with a total length of 221 km of single track railway, and at an average speed of 13.8 km per hour. During the weekdays 190 trams are at work; operated by 380 drivers.

As of 2006 the tram transport system has been transporting passengers articulated 17 lines with a total length of 308 km of single track railway, and at an average speed of 12,56 km per hour. During the weekdays 176 trams are at work.

So is the total length is 308 Km. now?
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Old August 22nd, 2013, 06:40 PM   #6
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Why Sofia made two different gauges of their tram network? If they started ‘Meter guage’, why they started ‘Standard guage` later? Only 3 routes (20, 22 & 23) use this, but due to difference of guage, through running is not possible.

Example - If anyone want to go from kv. Knyazhevo to Avtostantsiya Istok, he/she must change from MG to SG, and if any route is temporary closed, due to difference of guage, some trams could not bypass. Side by side, maintaining of two different guages increases cost. The same thing is happening in my country, at Delhi, where two different gauges (BG & SG) exists in the metro system.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 06:28 PM   #7
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In these photos, I see that tram tracks are dug for metro construction, is it temporary closure, or the permanent closure of tram service on this route. Please clear. Which tram routes were this?
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Old August 30th, 2013, 12:18 PM   #8
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Without being certain, it seems that the tram line will be permanently closed after metro is constructed.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 06:23 PM   #9
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Which route is/was this?
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 08:54 PM   #10
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Which route is/was this?
The line that continued straight ahead was 9, and the line that turns right on the picture is 6.
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Old September 10th, 2013, 10:22 AM   #11
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Thank you very much.

Now Please try to answer these -
1) Is there any plan to extend the network with new lines? If yes, please write some details and post a complete map with planned extensions.
2) Reserved or unreserved - which type of track layout is common in Sofia tramway network?
3) Which is the busiest tram terminus?
4) Which termini have interchange facility with suburban rail network?
5) Where is/are the depot(s) of the tramway network?
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Answers:
1) Is there any plan to extend the network with new lines? If yes, please write some details and post a complete map with planned extensions.

There are some plans but in general, the plans remain just as plans.

2) Reserved or unreserved - which type of track layout is common in Sofia tramway network?

Parts of the tracks for lines 5, 6, 8, 11, 12, 20 and 22 are reserved but unreserved tracks are dominant in Sofia.

3) Which is the busiest tram terminus?

The busiest point (most number of lines) of the network is near pl.Makedonia but I don't know if you ask about this.

4) Which termini have interchange facility with suburban rail network?

"Central Station" (many lines), "Zaharna Fabrika" (line 3), "Depo Iskar" (line 20, 2nd stop in route), "Sofia Sever" (line 19)

5) Where is/are the depot(s) of the tramway network?

"Krasna Polyana" (last stop of tm. 22), "Iskar" (last stop of tm.20), "Banishora" (near last stop of tm.1, the map in the first post is not the latest one)
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Thank u very much for your details reply, but you wrote the map is not latest. So could you post the latest tram map?
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Old September 20th, 2013, 09:55 AM   #14
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You can have a look at this one from the official site:

The only changes compared to the card you provided are for the routes of lines 1 and 7.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #15
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Wow, awsome, thank u very much
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mixed track- I never see anywhere
They are still in Liberec, Czech Republic
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First Swing went yesterday to Sofia-informed us Żaboklicki Thomas, head of Bydgoszcz pessimism. Ultimately Stolichen Elektrotransport commissioned Polish producer of 20 wagons, five-version. Tram underwent two testing phases, in Poland, now awaiting his approval tests in Bulgaria. When they are finished, perhaps later this year, will carry passengers Swing. This is another export market pessimism. After Romania, Russia and Hungary, it is time to Bulgaria. Swing for Sophia is a tram from 100% low-floor friendly for the elderly, the disabled and wheelchair access. Easy entry into the vehicle, the stroller, ramp allows manual. Comfort inside provide air conditioning systems, both in the driver's cab and in the passenger compartment. Tram, which on one level building with a spacious interior combines the convenience of travel, while providing a sense of security. Each vehicle shall be composed of five members, and the total length will be 30120 mm. Transport capacity tram is 201 people, including seating 41. Maximum speed - 70km / h Tram is equipped with modern passenger information system. An interesting unusual track gauge in Poland, amounting to 1009 mm.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 11:05 AM   #18
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Not too long ago ...

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History of Sofia's trams.

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Old November 29th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #20
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First out of 20 new PESA 120Na trams already in Sofia. Its price is 1,6 million euro per vehicle, it has security systems, air condition, cameras, info screens and ticket machines on board. The first four trams will service line number 1, from next year they will start running on extended line 2 to Darvenitsa and reconstructed line 7 to Borovo.







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