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Old March 12th, 2007, 06:18 PM   #1
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Hello everyone!
Leeds Super-Tram now has an online partition. I know that Leeds is not a world major city but it is a UK one (the 3rd by population) but I'm hoping you can find it in your urban hearts to join up:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Leeds-Supertram/

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Old March 12th, 2007, 10:03 PM   #2
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Hello everyone!
Leeds Super-Tram now has an online partition. I know that Leeds is not a world major city but it is a UK one (the 3rd by population) but I'm hoping you can find it in your urban hearts to join up:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Leeds-Supertram/

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A worthy cause! Though I'm not sure the people of Manchester, Birmingham, Glasgow etc. are going to agree on the '3rd by population' bit
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Old March 12th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #3
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A worthy cause! Though I'm not sure the people of Manchester, Birmingham, Glasgow etc. are going to agree on the '3rd by population' bit
Its still true! The government would not say it was otherwise!
but its not the point! This is important and will Boost the UK as there could be a chnce is it helping to rase our population to 1,000,000. (by 300,000 people).

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Old March 13th, 2007, 12:19 AM   #4
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The government dont say it is.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 12:20 AM   #5
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Maybe it would be a good idea to involve some plans of what we will get if they sign Matt, or at least the old plans.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 12:26 AM   #6
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I want a people mover from Headingley to city centre

But on a serious side, didn't they conduct a feasibility study to say it was too expensive? How successful has the one in Nottingham been? Where will it go? A supertram will not be wholly effective unless it is fully integrated with the other major transport interchanges such as the dyer st. bus station, train stations, and maybe even park and rides. How far out will it extend? It could cost millions upon millions. I know for one the A660 is incredibly busy and further transport infrastructure is needed to relieve the congestion - but where is the space for such proposals?
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Old March 13th, 2007, 01:20 AM   #7
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I'll pretty much support any reason to build a new tram line
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Old March 13th, 2007, 05:38 AM   #8
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You should post some photograps, maps, facts, etc. on the Leeds Supertram, not just the petition. I think you'd probably get a lot more interest (and signatures) that way.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 06:23 PM   #9
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Infomation

Sadly the website was removed when the plan was refused any more funding, after spending £40m, so here is what i can find:

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Leeds Supertram - Passenger Transport Executive (PTE), United Kingdom
Leeds is one of the fastest growing cities in the UK and suffers from chronic road congestion at peak times. It has an extensive heavy rail suburban network serving nearby towns in the West Yorkshire conurbation. However, from the early-1990s and the development of Supertram light rail network in nearby Sheffield, transport and municipal authorities in Leeds have expressed a desire to see a similar system in their city.

The project has now had bids for government funding turned down twice, once in the mid-1990s and again at the end of 2005. The latter is despite provisional approval in 2001, part of a scheme to increase light rail use in the UK by 50% over the following decade. Low-cost guided buses running in the same corridor are now being actively pursued.

The government insisted that the cost of the project should not exceed £500 million, and at the end of 2005 called for the project to be halted despite the advanced nature of procurement, having learned that it might cost twice the agreed sum. A total of 75% of the funding was required from the public sector, with contributions from central government, the government-sponsored but independently-thinking passenger transport executive, and the city council. The balance would be met from the private sector.

The concession allowed four years for construction, and 27 years of operations, and the concessionaire could recover its initial investment from progress payments and surpluses in operating revenues.

INFRASTRUCTURE
A £500 million, three-line, 28km (17-mile) system was proposed with a city centre core section branching off to serve the north, east and south of the city.

The northern branch (Line 2) is via the city's universities and Headingley to a park and ride site at Lawnswood. To the east, Line 3 trams will run via Burmantofts and St James Harehills to Seacroft and Whinmoor, while south of the city centre Line 1 served Hunslet, Middleton and a park and ride facility at Tingley, with another park and ride site at Stourton, close to the M621 motorway.

Leeds Supertram was promoted by Metro, the West Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive (PTE) as its number one priority transport project. It is specifically for corridors that are not well-served by the heavy rail network and see heavy demand for bus services.

With 28km (17 miles) of double track, 75% of which should be segregated from other traffic on reserved / segregated track, with the rest including street-running, Leeds Supertram would be a major undertaking. There would be around 50 tram stops with level boarding at platforms to make the trams accessible to all.

Four large park-and-ride sites have been planned, with 3,000 car parking spaces at Stourton, and 500 each at Tingley, Lawnswood and Grime's Dyke.

Other major traffic generators are the Royal Armouries and Clarence Dock developments south of the city centre and Headingley (for the Yorkshire County Cricket ground, Leeds rugby league stadium and the Seacroft Centre in east Leeds). In the city centre, trams would serve the bus and rail stations, universities, hospitals and major shopping areas.

In common with other UK projects, development would be a design, build, operate, maintain and part-finance relationship, with a combination of government money and Private Finance Initiative (PFI) funding.

ROLLING STOCK
A total of around 40 articulated trams, capable of comfortably carrying up to 200 passengers, would be needed for the three routes.

It is now common practice to employ standard-sized vehicles which are available off the shelf from companies such as Alstom, Bombardier, Siemens and Stadler. The operating speed is 70km/h (45mph) with a floor height of not more than 350mm above the rail at entrances, providing level boarding access.

SIGNALLING / COMMUNICATIONS
Conventional light rail systems are controlled by absolute block signalling, managed from a central signalling centre at or near the main depot.

THE FUTURE
In common with UK light development projects, the revival of Leeds Supertram requires a sea change in procurement processes to ensure that it is perceived as good value for money. In the meantime, an alternative scheme of running low-cost guided buses running in the same corridors is now being actively pursued. If ridership figures become overpowering, the case for light rail will be strengthened.

Leeds Supertram attracted interest from most of the world's big name companies. Although no deals were struck, the final shortlisted bidders were Airelink (Arriva, Siemens, Amec and Transdev) and Momentis (First, Bombardier, Bouygues and Jarvis). They represented dozens of the world's leading transport, design, engineering and finance companies with experience of PFI and DBOM contracts and operating light rail systems across the world.

The West Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive has looked at long-distance extensions to Wakefield, Bradford, Halifax and Huddersfield.






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I carnt find mutch more! the Project died, evrything went! But we want it back! Leeds is one of the only city of its size not to have anything like this!
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Old March 13th, 2007, 08:25 PM   #10
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Leeds Supertram was cancelled by Alistair Darling in 2005. Despite the go-ahead being given to the £20bn crossrail project in London ontop of London's existing developed transport network, the £500m supertram was cancelled for being"too expensive". Leeds remains Europe's largest city without a Metro, Light Rail, Tram or Underground system, and also one of the UK's most congested cities (far more so than that of the other main cities of Birmingham, Glasgow and Sheffield),
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Old March 14th, 2007, 01:52 AM   #11
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I thought the plan now was to go for those tram-train things?
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Old April 6th, 2007, 07:13 PM   #12
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That was just an idia.
So far:
Deadline to sign up by: 07 March 2008 – Signatures: 957
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Old April 7th, 2007, 04:11 PM   #13
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I'd sign it if I could, but only British citizens can. Good luck anyway!
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Old April 9th, 2007, 03:41 AM   #14
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Sounds good. Leeds definitely needs better public transportl
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Some of Leeds buses, photos from Flickr user dbp dearingbuspix:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dearingbuspix/


First WY 36258 BG12YJP Leeds City Bus Stn (1280x960) by dbp dearingbuspix, on Flickr


Yorkshire Coastliner 425 BF62UXV Leeds City Bus Stn on 840 (1280x960) by dbp dearingbuspix, on Flickr


Arriva Yorkshire 1946 SN15LPF Leeds City Bus Stn on 110 (1) (1280x960) by dbp dearingbuspix, on Flickr


Harrogate &amp; District 309 YC51LYD Leeds City Bus Stn on 771 (1280x960) by dbp dearingbuspix, on Flickr


Harrogate &amp; District 3614 X14VTD Leeds City Bus Stn on 770 (1) (1280x960) by dbp dearingbuspix, on Flickr
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Recently-opened southern entrance of Leeds station:
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From Yorkshire Evening Post:

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City could turn to tram-train after trolleybus blocked
17:05, Thursday 12 May 2016



LEEDS could look to tram-train technology as a solution to its transport problems after its trolleybus plans were left in tatters tdoay

The Government has promised the £173m it had earmarked for trolleybus would still be spent in the city and thoughts are now turning to what next for transport in Leeds

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Leeds Council inquiry into failed bus and tram schemes

19 July 2016 From the section Leeds & West Yorkshire


An inquiry is to be held into decisions made by a local authority over two transport schemes which were eventually scrapped.


The council and West Yorkshire Combined Authority spent nearly 30 years and invested £72m in developing the Leeds trolleybus and Supertram projects[...]
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