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Asia 136 40.12%
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 04:27 PM   #201
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North America (New York, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Vancouver, Miami, Los Angeles)
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 01:07 AM   #202
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It's closer than I expected. North America certainly seems to be holding its own against a rapidly expanding Asia.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 06:09 AM   #203
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First of all the economy of our country is stronger than any other country and this crisis not only affecting us but affecting countries around the world. Debt you say, your guys still have horrible living conditions. Even the poor dont live like that, not even the homeless
Ya ya, whatever you say then... The red one shows how overconfidence USA is, even during one of the worst economic condition of your country

Wow, do you want to say even the poor and homeless in US are still have a better living conditions than us in Asia? What a "humble" opinion from a US citizen....
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 01:50 PM   #204
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Ya ya, whatever you say then... The red one shows how overconfidence USA is, even during one of the worst economic condition of your country

Wow, do you want to say even the poor and homeless in US are still have a better living conditions than us in Asia? What a "humble" opinion from a US citizen....
We make 14 trillion dollars. The US is the biggest and the most important consumer. Thats why the world is going down with us.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 09:31 PM   #205
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methinks he doth protest too much
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 09:36 PM   #206
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Shanghai's Bladerunner moments:

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Old November 3rd, 2008, 09:46 PM   #207
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I was torn between Asia and N.America. Couldn't decide which. Then I read Citypolice's comments and decided to vote Asia. Citypolice, you come across as an arse.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 11:24 PM   #208
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I was torn between Asia and N.America. Couldn't decide which. Then I read Citypolice's comments and decided to vote Asia. Citypolice, you come across as an arse.
Screw you.

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Old November 4th, 2008, 01:15 AM   #209
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and thisll get ur knickers in a twist again, skyscrapers approved and under construction in China:

Many thanx to Zorg of course, www.photobucket.com

Jianbei New City, Chongqing:








Bluetooth Crystal, Shenzhen



Chongqing Soho:




Binhai Water Building twins, Tianjin 166m.





Suzhou Gate



in context with the others proposed / U/C:



Shenzhen Stock Exchange

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Shenzhen CTS Towers



Century Center



Shenzhen International Finance



AVIC Plaza



Shenzhen Metro HQ



Hangzhou Condos



Worlds second 7 star hotel, Sanya



Chengdu Towers



Hangzhou Flamenco



Yuqiao Peninsular, Tianjin



Guangzhou Condos



Beihai Twins proposal, Beijing



Changsha Tower Twins provisional design




Wenzhou Lucheng Plaza


Shanghai Kerry center



Wuxi Wharf Square



Shenzhen Hilton u/c







Chongqing ASE Center






Guangzhou West Tower






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Old November 4th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #210
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I'm way too lazy to search around for every great tower, but here's a random selection from some China development threads on SSC;


TEDA Tower,Tianjin




Chongqing IFC, Chongqing




CCTV HQ, Beijing (worlds 2nd largest office building)



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Pearl River Tower, Guangzhou




White Magnolia Plaza, Shanghai






Sino-Steel Plaza, Tianjin










MOCO Centre, Chongqing




Park Hyatt, Guangzhou




ICC, Hong Kong




Haohe Building, Guangzhou




Zovie Plaza, Tianjin




Kingkey Finance Centre Plaza, Shenzhen






Conrad Hotel and Jumeirah Hotel, Shanghai




Sun Valley Project, Chongqing




Suning Olympic Plaza, Nanjing







Shanghai Centre, Shanghai







Poly Plaza, Chongqing





Just a very small selection of course. There are currently more than 180 supertalls planned/under construction/built in China, with several new proposals every week. The designs are generally of very high quality too. Add to that the thousands upon thousands of non-supertall skyscrapers in every major/middle sized Chinese city and you're bound to find some awesome stuff all over the place.

In any case, it's a highly subjective matter anyway. And Aqua is a spectacular building. Love it.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 01:30 AM   #211
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Jialing Fianying II, Chongqing





Raffles City, Hangzhou





Wuxi North Station



Shenzhen World Finance






Suzhou West Lake



Danzishi Chongqing

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Old November 4th, 2008, 04:24 AM   #212
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and........... we are talking about Skylines, not urban density.
I thought it was a totally relevant comment. In part I was responding to Citypolice but also, don't you think that built density is a factor in skyline aesthetics?

I also don't understand why some people decide to generalize by stating that all buildings in Asia are "cheap". They are built with the same building materials as those in built in North America, Europe, etc. Some are built by the same architects.

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You do know that alot of those are not going to get built any time soon and each one of them are in different cities but since you want start posting the approved under construction pics ill be delighted to post some of the major buildings going up in NYC


World Trade CenterU/C




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Beekman Tower U/C


Bank of America Tower U/C


1 Madison Park U/C
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56 Leonard Street U/C



50 West Street U/C



Girasole Proposed



11 Times Square U/C




Cooper Square Hotel U/C


Rotating Tower proposed-approved




South Street Seaport Approved-U/C



100 11th: Jean Nouvel's "Vision Machine U/C
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Brookfield Towers Proposed-approved




524 W 19th St - Metal Shutter Houses U/C



23 East 22 street U/C



404 Fifth Ave. U/C
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I thought it was a totally relevant comment. In part I was responding to Citypolice but also, don't you think that built density is a factor in skyline aesthetics?

I also don't understand why some people decide to generalize by stating that all buildings in Asia are "cheap". They are built with the same building materials as those in built in North America, Europe, etc. Some are built by the same architects.

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I also don't understand why some people decide to generalize by stating that all buildings in Asia are "cheap". They are built with the same building materials as those in built in North America, Europe, etc. Some are built by the same architects.
I think there's only one reason. Because we are here in Asia. Some of them always think Asia is inferior and Western is superior. Asia is bad and cheap, America (and maybe plus Europe) are good and luxurious... Just ignore them then.

In this thread I also found many Americans or Europeans who can appreciate Asia and Asians. That's why I still have to have respect for America(n) or Europe(an) instead of argueing some arogant statements.
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can someone post some new buildings going up in chicago
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I think there's only one reason. Because we are here in Asia. Some of them always think Asia is inferior and Western is superior. Asia is bad and cheap, America (and maybe plus Europe) are good and luxurious... Just ignore them then.

In this thread I also found many Americans or Europeans who can appreciate Asia and Asians. That's why I still have to have respect for America(n) or Europe(an) instead of argueing some arogant statements.
Why we think that is because it is true. Besides any of the major buildings all the other ones look like crud also your living standards are poor compared to us.


You should always have respect for americans because we created the base for many achievements. we created the tv, car, subway, media, radio, phone, computer, video games, skyscraper, mp3 player, CD, DVD, video cassette, etc
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Why we think that is because it is true. Besides any of the major buildings all the other ones look like crud also your living standards are poor compared to us.


You should always have respect for americans because we created the base for many achievements. we created the tv, car, subway, media, radio, phone, computer, video games, skyscraper, mp3 player, CD, DVD, video cassette, etc
A message to everybody: Please, please don't base your judgment of a country on single individuals. I'm personally ashamed of these comments that are just a museum for ignorance and arrogance, two things that can't go together. There are bad apples everywhere, unfortunately, in industrialized countries (= internet everywhere), the bad apples can make a lot of noise. One bad thing of internet....

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Comments like yours make me ashamed of being a us citizen. A few corrections:
1) Car? Please don't tell me you are referring to Ford, because inventing a way to assemble the car doesn't mean he invented it. Cars were used far before him in Europe, but only by rich people, due to the way they were built. Just because Ford changed that, doesn't mean he invented it...

2) Radio? Never herd of Marconi did you....

3) Phone? Never herd of Antonio Meucci eather apparently... (Bell was the first one to PATENT the phone. Very different from inventing...)

4) Computer: you can't "give" the invention of computer to a single person, let alone a nation....

5) mp3 player, CD, DVD are all "community" inventions, with ideas coming from America, Europe and Asia (Japan).

Just look up this stuff on internet if you are a stranger to books. So you might learn something and not make a fool of yourself and ashame all of us....

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I think there's only one reason. Because we are here in Asia. Some of them always think Asia is inferior and Western is superior. Asia is bad and cheap, America (and maybe plus Europe) are good and luxurious... Just ignore them then.

In this thread I also found many Americans or Europeans who can appreciate Asia and Asians. That's why I still have to have respect for America(n) or Europe(an) instead of argueing some arogant statements.
There's a bit more at play there. Europe and North America have been at the top of the heap economically for the last century and a half. Some people here have this sense of entitlement, and don't take kindly to another region of the world prospering and taking some of that limelight away. It's childish and ugly to watch. It's beyond me why people aren't happy to see Asia prosper. It's always a better situation where 'all boats rise'.

There's also the tendency to like a design aesthetic that speaks to your own culture. A lot of what gets built in Asia, naturally speaks to the indigenous culture there. North Americans are more likely to feel a connection to the typical North American built form, while Asians will feel a stronger connection to theirs. This is only natural.

What's important is for all of us to understand our biases and observe with an objective eye. I'm glad Asian cities have their own character and have never thought of them as cheap. Not only is it an unfair label, but it's completely off the mark.

By America, I'm assuming you are referring to the continent, America? America has historically meant the continent, not one country. There are 35 nations in America, but I'm assuming your comments were directed at the 2 wealthy ones, the USA and Canada?
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By America, I'm assuming you are referring to the continent, America? America has historically meant the continent, not one country. There are 35 nations in America, but I'm assuming your comments were directed at the 2 wealthy ones, the USA and Canada?
No, not the whole continent actually. I know America is a continent, but what I refer to is the American people, US citizens. Sorry if that's not clear. I don't know if there are Canadians also made other arrogants statements, but it's clear that there is an American who always make rude statements about Asia (by reading this thread, I'm sure you know whom I'm talking about)

I realize that this guy's statement doesn't represent all American people's opinion, but his statement is very disturbing.

I do believe that USA has great skylines, but that's not a reason for anyone to look down or insult others, and being too proud about themselves.
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