Kings Dock Mill Phase 1 | Hurst Street | Hampton by Hilton Hotel/Apartments - Page 2

Chris B · December 2nd, 2008, 08:24 PM

Good to see this one moving forward. Although we still have a fair number of projects in the pipeline, we have relatively few on-site, so anything that is progressing is to be welcomed.

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Lets update the crane count!

Done.

the golden vision · December 4th, 2008, 05:36 PM

Slow but steady progress.

Chris B · December 4th, 2008, 07:48 PM

Thanks for the updates GV.

the golden vision · December 4th, 2008, 08:41 PM

Cheers Chris,not exactly David Bailey standard

but we can see some progress.

Martin S · December 4th, 2008, 11:46 PM

Thanks for the photos GV.

They've done quite a lot there with a contiguous piled wall and excavation of the basement plus what looks like foundations for columns, walls and services cores plus, of course, a tower crane. Should see this one coming out of the ground very shortly.

Inside information · December 5th, 2008, 07:59 PM

Anyone who wants any information on this project let me know.

Inside Information!!!!

Villiers Terrace · December 5th, 2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Inside information

Anyone who wants any information on this project let me know.

Inside Information!!!!

Will it be as pig-ugly as the renders?

P.m. me.

Inside information · December 6th, 2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Villiers Terrace

Will it be as pig-ugly as the renders?

P.m. me.

Unfortunately yes. Blame the architects!

and-r · December 6th, 2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Inside information

Unfortunately yes. Blame the architects!

not technically their fault, the developer stipulates what they want and in what budget and the architects have to make the best they can out of that, that said i wouldn't describe it as pig ugly. just rather forgettable. if people want to see what pig ugly really is they should be looking at the other budget hotels across the street a la ibis and camponile

Inside information · December 6th, 2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by and-r

not technically their fault, the developer stipulates what they want and in what budget and the architects have to make the best they can out of that, that said i wouldn't describe it as pig ugly. just rather forgettable. if people want to see what pig ugly really is they should be looking at the other budget hotels across the street a la ibis and camponile

On this project the developer and the architect is the same person - Jonathon Prichard.

Martin S · December 6th, 2008, 10:30 PM

I think that this building is ideal for its setting. It has the massing to reflect the scale of the Wapping Warehouses and restore a streetscape to the area following on from its former use as single storey factories. I also like its combination of brick and black glass - that gives it a modern urban feel. Totally agree about the Dolby, Ibis and Campanile hotels - this one is a breath of fresh air by comparison.

My only reservation is that the developers run out of money before it is completed.

Bay City · December 7th, 2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin S

I think that this building is ideal for its setting. It has the massing to reflect the scale of the Wapping Warehouses and restore a streetscape to the area following on from its former use as single storey factories.

I am afraid it will look like much other cheap tat built. Nothing at pavement level. The area was once shops and warehouses....

...which looked much nicer.

chansau · December 8th, 2008, 07:04 PM

whos the contractor on this one please?

Inside information · December 8th, 2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chansau

whos the contractor on this one please?

The contractor is Bowmer & Kirkland. Originally from Belper in Derbyshire but now have a regional office in Manchester.

Inside information · December 10th, 2008, 11:54 PM

Just to update you all on some earlier posts:

The project is actually running behind programme and the Hotel is not due to be open until Spring 2010. At the same time as this 25% of the apartments will be handed over (45 No.).

The completion date is (at the minute) September 2010. The remainder of the apartments will be handed over in phases throughout 2010 with the last block of 45 being September - 190 in total

Planning is imminent for a further hotel and more apartments to be built on the Pilkington Glass site. The proposals are to close Tabley St (pedestrians only) and have a coffee shop/cafe with external seating.

The second crane (a luffing jib) will be erected in March/April 09. This crane has a 40m radius which is bigger than the current one. The crane will be a lot higher too!

There is a two storey car park in the basements with 65% of the parking being alloted to the hotel. So if your thinking of buying an apartment with a parking space think again as the developer has already sold nearly half of the apartments (allegedly)

Cheers
II

Chris B · December 11th, 2008, 12:49 AM

Thanks for keeping us up-to-date on the progress of this one. Much appreciated.

buggedboy · December 11th, 2008, 10:52 AM

Thanks for the info II. Another hotel block on the Pilkington site? Is it the same developer? I'd normally be cynical that anything would get off the ground in the current climate, but the developer of Kings Dock Mill seems able to make his numbers stack up and get funding from the bankers, so anything is possible I suppose.

Is the Pilkington site being taken on by the same people?

Inside information · December 11th, 2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by buggedboy

Thanks for the info II. Another hotel block on the Pilkington site? Is it the same developer? I'd normally be cynical that anything would get off the ground in the current climate, but the developer of Kings Dock Mill seems able to make his numbers stack up and get funding from the bankers, so anything is possible I suppose.

Is the Pilkington site being taken on by the same people?

The Pilkington site is currently being used by Bowmer & Kirkland as their site offices, storage & welfare facilities.

The idea (once planning is approved) is to demolish Pilks in about 18 months and then commence work on the newly formed site to coincide with the completion of Kings Dock Mill (official title).

So in answer to your question - Yes it is the same developer (Jonathon Prichard) but not necessarily the same contractor. Although in the current climate, it is a big carrot to dangle in front of B&K!!!

Cheers

Doug Roberts · January 18th, 2009, 04:38 PM

The hoardings around the site (the Cornhill side) have no spy holes to check out progress, this is the best I could get.

Paul D · January 18th, 2009, 05:16 PM

Thanks Paul,I'm amazed we ever got this off the gound the way things have gone.

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December 4th, 2008, 05:36 PM	#22
the golden vision Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,753 Likes (Received): 169	Slow but steady progress.

December 4th, 2008, 08:41 PM	#24
the golden vision Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,753 Likes (Received): 169	Cheers Chris,not exactly David Bailey standard but we can see some progress.

December 4th, 2008, 11:46 PM	#25
Martin S LIVERPOOL England Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,523 Likes (Received): 47	Thanks for the photos GV. They've done quite a lot there with a contiguous piled wall and excavation of the basement plus what looks like foundations for columns, walls and services cores plus, of course, a tower crane. Should see this one coming out of the ground very shortly.

December 5th, 2008, 07:59 PM	#26
Inside information Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21 Likes (Received): 0	Anyone who wants any information on this project let me know. Inside Information!!!!

December 6th, 2008, 10:30 PM	#31
Martin S LIVERPOOL England Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,523 Likes (Received): 47	I think that this building is ideal for its setting. It has the massing to reflect the scale of the Wapping Warehouses and restore a streetscape to the area following on from its former use as single storey factories. I also like its combination of brick and black glass - that gives it a modern urban feel. Totally agree about the Dolby, Ibis and Campanile hotels - this one is a breath of fresh air by comparison. My only reservation is that the developers run out of money before it is completed.

December 8th, 2008, 07:04 PM	#33
chansau DECENT 'Scrapers please! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Loughton Posts: 233 Likes (Received): 0	whos the contractor on this one please?

December 10th, 2008, 11:54 PM	#35
Inside information Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21 Likes (Received): 0	Just to update you all on some earlier posts: The project is actually running behind programme and the Hotel is not due to be open until Spring 2010. At the same time as this 25% of the apartments will be handed over (45 No.). The completion date is (at the minute) September 2010. The remainder of the apartments will be handed over in phases throughout 2010 with the last block of 45 being September - 190 in total Planning is imminent for a further hotel and more apartments to be built on the Pilkington Glass site. The proposals are to close Tabley St (pedestrians only) and have a coffee shop/cafe with external seating. The second crane (a luffing jib) will be erected in March/April 09. This crane has a 40m radius which is bigger than the current one. The crane will be a lot higher too! There is a two storey car park in the basements with 65% of the parking being alloted to the hotel. So if your thinking of buying an apartment with a parking space think again as the developer has already sold nearly half of the apartments (allegedly) Cheers II

December 11th, 2008, 10:52 AM	#37
buggedboy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,394 Likes (Received): 174	Thanks for the info II. Another hotel block on the Pilkington site? Is it the same developer? I'd normally be cynical that anything would get off the ground in the current climate, but the developer of Kings Dock Mill seems able to make his numbers stack up and get funding from the bankers, so anything is possible I suppose. Is the Pilkington site being taken on by the same people?

January 18th, 2009, 05:16 PM	#40
Paul D Phatang Phatang Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 11,648 Likes (Received): 315	Thanks Paul,I'm amazed we ever got this off the gound the way things have gone.