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Old December 4th, 2005, 05:59 AM   #41
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I assume your talking about Australia?

Don't worry. The day Australia wins the Hosting right to the world cup, is the day that AFL Becomes the second sport. Its going to happen sooner or later just look at what the stars of the future prefer.

Ofcourse those 30-40k stadia will be used to capacity once the Australian public realise how glorious the real football is compared to that mickey mouse game they call Australian Rules .

Just a thought.
Unfortunately, there's a difference between jumping on the bandwagon and being born into the game. The biggest difference between the sports is that at an AFL match, you'll see children four or five years old all the way to elderly citizens that have been following their club for all their life.

Besides, only people like you think the codes are competing. Ever noticed that the A-League season coincides with the AFL off-season?
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Old December 4th, 2005, 07:43 PM   #42
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The final should be in the geographic center of europe..something like Prague or Vienna...not Brussels.
wtf... why? it would make sense to hold it in Brussels, or in an other large stadium. But why Prague? The largest stadium in Czech Rep. has 20 000 seats, Austria's largest has 49 000 seats. Netherlands have 8 larger stadiums then Czech and two stadiums larger then Austria. Belgium about the same thing.

Let's show some stadiums that could host:

Amsterdam (NED) - Amsterdam Arena, 51 324 seats


Rotterdam (NED) - De Kuip, 51 180 seats


Lisboa (PRT) - Estádio da Luz, 65 647 seats


Lisboa (PRT) - Estádio José Alvalade, 50 300 seats


Porto (PRT) - Estádio do Dragăo, 50 000 seats


Wien (AUT) - Ernst Happel Stadion, 48 844 seats


Brussel (BEL) - Koning Boudewijn Stadion, 50 024 seats


Křbenhavn (DK) - Parken Stadion, 41 781 seats


Göteborg (SVE) - Nya Ullevi Stadion, 43 200 seats


Solna (SVE) - Rĺsunda Stadion, 50 000 seats (finished in 2010)


Helsinki (FIN) - Olympiastadion, 42 062 seats


Athína (GRE) - Olympic Stadium 'Spyros Louis', 74 443 seats


Chorzow (POL) - Stadion Slaski, 43 000 seats


Basel (CHE) - St. Jakob Park, 31 539 (is being changed to 42 000 seats)


Something like this...

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Old December 5th, 2005, 12:04 PM   #43
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(Small note: Rĺsunda will probably be demolished and replaced by a new stadium somewhere near Rĺsunda.)
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Old December 5th, 2005, 12:22 PM   #44
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As I said I don't think existing stadiums are a very good guide to what a country can offer unless they've hosted a major comp quite recently. Generally it doesnt seem to be the really massive stadiums that become white elephants as there normally in the capital and used used by one or more of the biggest teams in the country aswell as for national team games, cup finals and other speical events. What holds most of those countries back from hosting a WC on their own is that most of the rest of the stadiums recreated would only be used by relatively small clubs.
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Old December 6th, 2005, 06:01 PM   #45
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Are there any stadium developments planned in these countries except the new national stadium of Sweden (which probably could host a quarter final, but not a semi final or final)?
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Old December 10th, 2005, 12:06 AM   #46
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Scotland for World Cup?

Scotland could host a World Cup, or at least a European Championship, if stadia were renovated.

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Ready:
Glasgow - Celtic Park (60500), Ibrox (50400), Hampden (50600)
Edinburgh - Murrayfield (67500)

Renovations:
Aberdeen - Pittodrie
Dundee - Tannadice & Dens Park
Dunfermline - East End Park
Edinburgh - Meadowbank, Tynecastle & Easter Road
Falkirk - Falkirk Community Stadium
Glasgow - Firhill
Inverness - Caledonian Stadium
Kilmarnock - Rugby Park
Motherwell - Fir Park

However, for the majority of the renovation stadia, 20-30000 seats would need to be added.

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Old December 10th, 2005, 12:34 AM   #47
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Australia and New Zealand could joint host. 6 Stadia in Oz and 2 in NZ. The Aussies have an exemplarily record of staging big events. The smaller Stadiums could be upgraded to the minimum capacity.
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Old December 10th, 2005, 12:48 AM   #48
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Dubai Sports City in the future, perhaps..... 18 stadia currently under construction, the largest will have a capacity of 65K.

http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/di...ports-city.jpg

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Old December 10th, 2005, 02:22 PM   #49
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It's not going to help much because you can't have everything in the one city.
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Old December 12th, 2005, 11:30 AM   #50
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Thats ridiculous thinking that Dubai would host it alone.
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Old December 12th, 2005, 09:14 PM   #51
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Scotland could host a World Cup if stadia were renovated.

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Ready:
Glasgow - Celtic Park (60500), Ibrox (50400), Hampden (50600)
Edinburgh - Murrayfield (67500)

Renovations:
Aberdeen - Pittodrie
Dundee - Tannadice & Dens Park
Dunfermline - East End Park
Edinburgh - Meadowbank, Tynecastle & Easter Road
Falkirk - Falkirk Community Stadium
Glasgow - Firhill
Inverness - Caledonian Stadium
Kilmarnock - Rugby Park
Motherwell - Fir Park

However, for the majority of the renovation stadia, 20-30000 seats would need to be added.

Scotland could never hold a World Cup. Our 3 big football stdiums are in the same city, and one of them is crap with a terrible main stand (celtic park)


As for the others -

Aberdeen - Pittodrie - New stadium required, all 4 stands would have to be rebuilt.

Dundee - Tannadice & Dens Park - New stadium required, all 4 stands would have to be rebuilt. Average crowds 7-8000.

East End Park - New stadium required, all 4 stands would have to be rebuilt. 12000 capacity, no way on earth could you have a 40000 stadium in Dunfermline, it's a small town.

Edinburgh - Meadowbank, Tynecastle & Easter Road - All 3 stadiums would need to be completely rebuilt. Meadowbank is a wasteland.

Falkirk - Now you are being silly. Capacity is 6500.

Glasgow - Firhill - Firhill? In Maryhill? Thistles average is 3500.

Inverness - Caledonian Stadium - Capacity is 7500 in the middle of nowhere. Local town for local people.

Kilmarnock - Rugby Park - complete rebuild, average crowd 6500

Motherwell - Fir Park - complete rebuild, capacity 14000
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Old December 13th, 2005, 12:44 AM   #52
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The european championships seem like a more realistic goal for Scotland to aim at, UEFA seem less adverse to co hosts(Irish or the Welsh?) than FIFA do aswell.
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Old December 13th, 2005, 12:59 AM   #53
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The european championships seem like a more realistic goal for Scotland to aim at, UEFA seem less adverse to co hosts(Irish or the Welsh?) than FIFA do aswell.
There was a joint bid for Euro2008 with Ireland. Didn't do very well. Thankyou GAA ;-)

Perhaps another shot for 2016 would be realistic with either Ireland or Wales as co-hosts?
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Old December 13th, 2005, 01:35 AM   #54
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There was a joint bid for Euro2008 with Ireland. Didn't do very well. Thankyou GAA ;-)

Perhaps another shot for 2016 would be realistic with either Ireland or Wales as co-hosts?
The GAA did seem a bit more positive about the possibley of other sports using their stadiums last I heard but a Welsh joint bid would probabley be safer. The Millenium stadiums already there and Cardiff city are building a new 30,000 seat one plus isnt the 20 K one in Swansea extendable? That would leave the Scots only needing 5 more grounds in the shape of the 3 Glasgow ones, Murrayfield and maybe that joint Dundee stadium that I seem to remember being discussed awhile ago.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 02:38 AM   #55
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I think they should have the World Cup in England as soon as possible. It's about time they brought football home!!!
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Old December 20th, 2005, 03:03 AM   #56
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I think lots of countries can host a World Cup. For example.
Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, USA, France, England, Spain, Italy, Holland?, Portugal?, Sweden?, Norway?, Russia?, Poland?, Ireland, Japan, Korea, China, South Africa. This are the countries I consider taht are prepare to host a World Cup.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 11:38 PM   #57
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Scotland could never hold a World Cup. Our 3 big football stdiums are in the same city, and one of them is crap with a terrible main stand (celtic park)
You surely must be a Rangers supporter, because the views from the North stand at Celtic Park are amazing. The South stand is the only weakness, but it is still better than Hampden and Ibrox.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 12:53 AM   #58
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There was talk in the Netherlands that maybe, in the not so distant future (say in like 20 years), they could do a bid to organise a WC. This is because of the WC under 20 they organised. The FIFA brought this to the attention to the KNVB (Dutch FA). Uefa granted the organisation of the EC under 20 in 2007 to the Netherlands also.

But for now, after South Africa it would be best that Brasil organises a next WC.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 03:00 AM   #59
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London could host WC London ponly has more stadiums than some countries

Wembley
Twickenham (stadium of rugby national team)
Emirates Stadium (Arsenal)
Stampford Bridge (Chelsa)
Wimbeldon F.C. Stadium
Crystal Palace Stadium
future London 2012 Olympic Stadium
future UK Athletc National Team stadium

and I'm sure taht there would be no problem to find some other good stadiums in London Area.
London could easily do it.

Wembley 90
Twickenham 82
Emirates 60
Stamford 42
Upton park 35, but prepared for exp. to 41
White Hart Lane 36, easily go to 50+ once traffic issues solved
The Valley, 26, but with plans to go to 40

That would be the 7 obvious.

possibles
Olympic, post olympic cap of 25, temp. exp to 40 should be easy
Selhurst park, 26, exp. to 40 blocked and now scrapped, I think
New Brentford, 25, would need at least temporary exp.
Loftus, 20, unlikely, cant be exp.
new den 20, unlikely
craven cott, 20, possibly if exp. to 30 in a way that allows temp.seating
Lord´s cricket, 28, unlikely but possible as room for temp.seating.
The Oval, cricket, 22, temp.exp possible, very unlikely because of location.

London could do it, possibly even without spending anything as the needed upgrades are likely to happen anyway, but of course it would be silly. cities dont host world cups, still amazing though.


If England do get the world cup games should be spread around geographically, Plymouth, Bristol, Hull, etc, not just the obvious places.

In fact if England would really do something special, they should play games virtually everywhere. An awful lot of existing or planned stadiums just need small expansions and why chose between , say, derby, leicester or nottingham, when you can have all 3.

The first 63-stadium world cup...
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 10:10 AM   #60
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You surely must be a Rangers supporter, because the views from the North stand at Celtic Park are amazing. The South stand is the only weakness, but it is still better than Hampden and Ibrox.
Ibrox is clearly superior, doesn't it have a higher rating?
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