PROJECT | Krystallen | 48m | 13fl | Never Built

***Þróndeimr*** · September 13th, 2008, 09:50 PM

Krystallen
Oslo - Norway

Krystallen is a proposed building next to Oslo Central Station. Its proposed under the same project as the new Oslo
Sentralstasjon designed by Space Group and won the competition between 4 international architect teams in June
2008. Original plan is that Krystallen will contain shops at its two first floors, while offices and a hotel will occupy its
reminding 11 floors. However, this building recieved a rather cold face from the jury that choose this winner and
suggests that Krystallen is been reduced in height.

Developer ROM Eiendom will finance the building and expect to start the construction in 2013 if approved.

safta20 · September 14th, 2008, 02:37 PM

Cool! Like it!

Schweden · September 14th, 2008, 03:39 PM

Cool one!

Spearman · September 15th, 2008, 02:34 AM

Unfortunately, this one probably won't make it as Þróndeimr says. They always seem to come down on the conservative side of the initial forecasts. If they cut it down, it will be nothing special, really, it will loose it's "crystal" appearance, and I guess they will change the design.

My gut feeling says the 127m next to Posthuset has a better chance than this one. I'd give this 5% tops....

Which is a shame. I really think it's nice.

Edit: OK, not a shame that the 127m has a better chance, but the chance I'd give this one IS a shame...

Ingenioren · September 15th, 2008, 02:46 PM

Right! Not only will it be reduced in height, but it's shape will change drasticly aswell, since they want to keep the square... =)

safte4 · January 23rd, 2009, 01:33 PM

no it would not be built. they don't have enough money... luckily (for me, i didn't like the placement!)

***Þróndeimr*** · January 23rd, 2009, 01:50 PM

did they figure that out now, news article somewhere?

So it will not be built at all? Or will it be redesign and reducted drastically in height as we expected it would do?

Ingenioren · March 27th, 2009, 10:05 AM

Ofcourse it will be built, it's still a long way ahead, but Rom has sent in the first planning initiative, and with it follows this new model-shot. Can anyone spot any changes? Krystallen looks reduced in height, i also think it looks like they have raised the height of Fjordporten:

http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no...seno=200902746

kjetilab · March 27th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Not even ROM Eiendom expected Krystallen to be approved in its proposed state, so no surpirse there. Still looking ok. I rather want the U-highrise built than Krystallen really...

Ingenioren · March 27th, 2009, 12:22 PM

Agree, let's hope i'm right and they add the area cut from Krystallen to Fjordporten

It will look so awesome walking down Karl Johan;D

IceCheese · March 27th, 2009, 01:35 PM

Yes, it seems Krystallen now it's closer to where we can expect it to be. I'm not quite sure, but it seems that the U-highrise is a bit less of a U now than in the first render. Anyone else agree with this?

And for god's sake, can people start paying the 200 kroner a full membership at Photobucket costs, so we can drop this bandwidth nonsense!!!

Ingenioren · March 27th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Much less of an U, i like it a lot better now;D

Ingenioren · May 23rd, 2009, 12:06 PM

Aftenposten feautures an article about Oslo S. Where they confirm that Krystallen is cut down half in size and lowered to be in the same height as the nabouring buildings ...

No word about Fjordporten, but the model in the paper - Spacegroup has mirrored the building, so it's tallest tower instead is closest to Postgirobygget instead of how it is in the model above, better for a cluster-feel in the area - so i hope it's another change they have made.

IceCheese · May 23rd, 2009, 03:30 PM

Yeah, and it seems as they've dropped the partly demolishion of Østbanehallen in favour of putting it inside one of the arches. Kind of weird, if you ask me. Eitherway, that leads them to keep the Ving/Ring I've expressed my hatred on earlier...

Ingenioren · May 23rd, 2009, 03:51 PM

^ It looks a little bit out of place, but never bothered me much...

Spearman · May 23rd, 2009, 04:26 PM

I have to say that the way Krystallen is proposed now, I'd rather they don't at all, and just keep the square open. I think I like it better the way it is now, actually.

This is sad, but not unexpected.

IceCheese · May 23rd, 2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spearman

I think I like it better the way it is now,

With all the drugusers?

Ingenioren · May 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM

^ The drugusers have been there for so long, they are probably preserved by Riksantikvaren

Definatly not better now. This area has enough Squares, the 2 new "streets" is one of the better parts of the new station, and Krystallen will still look cool, very much looking forward to this. Don't really see why they had to lower it tough, there are 3 highrises in the other end of Jernbanetorget, this would fit in very well. Only sader thing is Trafikanten tower that i like very much will be removed, i wish they would keep it.

Grauthue · May 23rd, 2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceCheese

With all the drugusers?

No.

BTW: Somebody please scan? I haven't bought Aftenposten today

Edit: Fixed the link

Ingenioren · May 23rd, 2009, 07:32 PM

^ They will remove them all except from Jernbanetorget ;D I have no scanner, unfortunatly...

September 13th, 2008, 09:50 PM	#1
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,270 Likes (Received): 273	PROJECT \| Krystallen \| 48m \| 13fl \| Never Built Krystallen Oslo - Norway Krystallen is a proposed building next to Oslo Central Station. Its proposed under the same project as the new Oslo Sentralstasjon designed by Space Group and won the competition between 4 international architect teams in June 2008. Original plan is that Krystallen will contain shops at its two first floors, while offices and a hotel will occupy its reminding 11 floors. However, this building recieved a rather cold face from the jury that choose this winner and suggests that Krystallen is been reduced in height. Developer ROM Eiendom will finance the building and expect to start the construction in 2013 if approved. Last edited by Þróndeimr; November 4th, 2008 at 03:56 PM.

September 14th, 2008, 02:37 PM	#2
safta20 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 917 Likes (Received): 0	Cool! Like it! __________________ http://yimby.se/

September 15th, 2008, 02:34 AM	#4
Spearman NWO Henchman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oslo Posts: 945 Likes (Received): 17	Unfortunately, this one probably won't make it as Þróndeimr says. They always seem to come down on the conservative side of the initial forecasts. If they cut it down, it will be nothing special, really, it will loose it's "crystal" appearance, and I guess they will change the design. My gut feeling says the 127m next to Posthuset has a better chance than this one. I'd give this 5% tops.... Which is a shame. I really think it's nice. Edit: OK, not a shame that the 127m has a better chance, but the chance I'd give this one IS a shame... __________________ politics n.pl. [From Gr. poly-, many and ticks, degenerate, blood-sucking parasites that transmit disease] A bureaucrat is a device for turning coffee into frustration.

September 15th, 2008, 02:46 PM	#5
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	Right! Not only will it be reduced in height, but it's shape will change drasticly aswell, since they want to keep the square... =) __________________ I want to see some construction!

January 23rd, 2009, 01:33 PM	#6
safte4 WHAT THE SKYSCRAPER?! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Stavanger Posts: 20 Likes (Received): 0	NEWS! no it would not be built. they don't have enough money... luckily (for me, i didn't like the placement!) __________________ WHAT THE SKYSCRAPER...?

September 14th, 2008, 03:39 PM	#3
Schweden Registered Loser Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Karlskoga, Sweden Posts: 510 Likes (Received): 6	Cool one!

January 23rd, 2009, 01:50 PM	#7
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,270 Likes (Received): 273	did they figure that out now, news article somewhere? So it will not be built at all? Or will it be redesign and reducted drastically in height as we expected it would do?

March 27th, 2009, 10:05 AM	#8
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	Ofcourse it will be built, it's still a long way ahead, but Rom has sent in the first planning initiative, and with it follows this new model-shot. Can anyone spot any changes? Krystallen looks reduced in height, i also think it looks like they have raised the height of Fjordporten: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no...seno=200902746 __________________ I want to see some construction!

March 27th, 2009, 12:16 PM	#9
kjetilab YIMBYer.no Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Drammen Posts: 1,248 Likes (Received): 45	Not even ROM Eiendom expected Krystallen to be approved in its proposed state, so no surpirse there. Still looking ok. I rather want the U-highrise built than Krystallen really... __________________ Nordic & Baltic urban map showcase My phototreads: Easter trip to Budapest (and Bratislava) Africa: Safari, Savanna, Casinos and dense urbanity Eastern Germany - four cities in four days Norwegian Northwest coast and Bodø

March 27th, 2009, 12:22 PM	#10
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	Agree, let's hope i'm right and they add the area cut from Krystallen to Fjordporten It will look so awesome walking down Karl Johan;D __________________ I want to see some construction!

March 27th, 2009, 01:35 PM	#11
IceCheese Scandi-friendly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oslo.no Posts: 5,982 Likes (Received): 89	Yes, it seems Krystallen now it's closer to where we can expect it to be. I'm not quite sure, but it seems that the U-highrise is a bit less of a U now than in the first render. Anyone else agree with this? And for god's sake, can people start paying the 200 kroner a full membership at Photobucket costs, so we can drop this bandwidth nonsense!!! __________________ Oslo/Copenhagen - The True Capital of Scandinavia. Take a look at my Photo Mess!

March 27th, 2009, 01:51 PM	#12
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	Much less of an U, i like it a lot better now;D __________________ I want to see some construction!

May 23rd, 2009, 12:06 PM	#13
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	Aftenposten feautures an article about Oslo S. Where they confirm that Krystallen is cut down half in size and lowered to be in the same height as the nabouring buildings ... No word about Fjordporten, but the model in the paper - Spacegroup has mirrored the building, so it's tallest tower instead is closest to Postgirobygget instead of how it is in the model above, better for a cluster-feel in the area - so i hope it's another change they have made. __________________ I want to see some construction! Last edited by Ingenioren; May 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 PM.

May 23rd, 2009, 03:30 PM	#14
IceCheese Scandi-friendly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oslo.no Posts: 5,982 Likes (Received): 89	Yeah, and it seems as they've dropped the partly demolishion of Østbanehallen in favour of putting it inside one of the arches. Kind of weird, if you ask me. Eitherway, that leads them to keep the Ving/Ring I've expressed my hatred on earlier... __________________ Oslo/Copenhagen - The True Capital of Scandinavia. Take a look at my Photo Mess!

May 23rd, 2009, 03:51 PM	#15
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	^ It looks a little bit out of place, but never bothered me much... __________________ I want to see some construction!

May 23rd, 2009, 04:26 PM	#16
Spearman NWO Henchman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oslo Posts: 945 Likes (Received): 17	I have to say that the way Krystallen is proposed now, I'd rather they don't at all, and just keep the square open. I think I like it better the way it is now, actually. This is sad, but not unexpected. __________________ politics n.pl. [From Gr. poly-, many and ticks, degenerate, blood-sucking parasites that transmit disease] A bureaucrat is a device for turning coffee into frustration.

May 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM	#18
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	^ The drugusers have been there for so long, they are probably preserved by Riksantikvaren Definatly not better now. This area has enough Squares, the 2 new "streets" is one of the better parts of the new station, and Krystallen will still look cool, very much looking forward to this. Don't really see why they had to lower it tough, there are 3 highrises in the other end of Jernbanetorget, this would fit in very well. Only sader thing is Trafikanten tower that i like very much will be removed, i wish they would keep it. __________________ I want to see some construction!

May 23rd, 2009, 07:32 PM	#20
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	^ They will remove them all except from Jernbanetorget ;D I have no scanner, unfortunatly... __________________ I want to see some construction!

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