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Old April 29th, 2014, 02:35 PM   #941
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Wrong location by how much? 1 inch? 1 foot?
enough for the job to come to a complete stop, to get thrown off the job, and then sued.
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From yesterday by me, looks like they are adding the balconies.
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Old April 29th, 2014, 03:21 PM   #943
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enough for the job to come to a complete stop, to get thrown off the job, and then sued.
Can you post your source please
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Old April 29th, 2014, 03:46 PM   #944
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Can you post your source please
i can't.
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Old April 29th, 2014, 10:40 PM   #945
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That is crazy! Haha Well I hope they get it sorted out soon.
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Old April 30th, 2014, 05:29 AM   #946
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enough for the job to come to a complete stop, to get thrown off the job, and then sued.
You are referring to the slow down last fall, right? Right now things look like they're moving forward...
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Old April 30th, 2014, 05:37 AM   #947
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You are referring to the slow down last fall, right? Right now things look like they're moving forward...
Yup I remember that slow down. Things seems to have been corrected and chugging along, but that is crazy though. Lol
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Old April 30th, 2014, 09:37 PM   #948
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Old April 30th, 2014, 09:58 PM   #949
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I always thought High Line's street view theather was a great idea, but this... this skyline theather is something else. I'd sit there all day, everyday.

Probably it could be used as movie theather as well just by closing the wall.
First time I see this, but that is very cool.
It should have a bar as well.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 01:03 AM   #950
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Are they building something different from the renders? I thought all floors were supposed to have balconies. Maybe they eliminated the balconies after finding out the building was in the wrong place? Maybe the balconies were encroaching past the property or setback line?
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Old May 1st, 2014, 01:08 AM   #951
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The balconies are being added later. This is allowing them to use basically identical formwork to pour the concrete of each floor, saving them a ton of time. That's why this thing has be flying by ever since it got past the first few irregular floors.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 01:24 AM   #952
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The balconies are being added later. This is allowing them to use basically identical formwork to pour the concrete of each floor, saving them a ton of time. That's why this thing has be flying by ever since it got past the first few irregular floors.
As a structural engineer, I am puzzled as how they would do this. If the cantilevered balconies are not a continuous extension of the interior slab,then they will need to be attached to the slab edge. It is difficult to tell from the pictures if there is a downturned or upturned beam at the perimeter to which the balconies would attach to - it looks to me like the slab is just thick, whithout any perimeter beams. It would be very difficult, if not impossible, to attach to a member with such a shallow thickness. Further, you would see some embedded plates or other type of mechanical fittings for the connection of the balcony sub-structures to the edges of the floor plate - I see none.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 01:34 AM   #953
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Well in these to pictures I have circled where they have/are building balcnoies; I understand what you mean though as they seem to be attaching the balconies to a flat surface of concrete to me...
Could you explain this technique now?

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The technique reminds me of the same used on my home cities station in Nottingham, where they have refurbished it; for some of the ornaments which they have taken on and put back on they have had to use a technique where a wooden frame is placed around it so that the 'ornament' sets into position; these frames have to be there for a year; the same technique seems to be applied to the balconies as they are being held in place for a while by the frames.

You can see the frames I was on about on the corners of the station here, the technique is Edwardian; from the early 20th century:

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This is the opposite side of the no entry sign published earlier - looks like cyclists will be allowed to leave Carrington Street onto Station Street but not the other way round


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Old May 1st, 2014, 05:59 AM   #954
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Well in these to pictures I have circled where they have/are building balcnoies; I understand what you mean though as they seem to be attaching the balconies to a flat surface of concrete to me...
Could you explain this technique now?

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[IMG]http://i57.************/v6lms3.png[/IMG]

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[IMG]http://i58.************/4qpir5.png[/IMG]

The technique reminds me of the same used on my home cities station in Nottingham, where they have refurbished it; for some of the ornaments which they have taken on and put back on they have had to use a technique where a wooden frame is placed around it so that the 'ornament' sets into position; these frames have to be there for a year; the same technique seems to be applied to the balconies as they are being held in place for a while by the frames.

You can see the frames I was on about on the corners of the station here, the technique is Edwardian; from the early 20th century:
I'm fairly certain these aren't balconies. They are just built out like that for easily transporting materials for construction from the crane. Look at the webcam for 432 park you will see at least one of these "balconies" at all times.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 05:20 PM   #955
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Old May 1st, 2014, 05:44 PM   #956
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I'm fairly certain these aren't balconies.
I'm finding this confusing as well, now that I've given it a closer look. I was sure that, early on, we'd seen some kind of protruding brackets or rebar that would indicate where a balcony would be attached. But now I'm at a loss to spot one. Anybody have an eagle eye or some other idea about how that process is supposed to work?
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Old May 1st, 2014, 06:13 PM   #957
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How about if they would simply crush the edge of the floorplate until they get to the rebars and then connect balcony to the structure there. I think I've seen such method used to connect floors to the core of the building.
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Those are most likely being used to lift in or out large/heavy equipment. The I-beams are secured to the floor and provide a platform that is directly reachable by the tower cranes. Sometimes dumpsters are positioned on these platforms so that large amounts of construction scrap can be removed from the site quickly and loaded onto a waiting truck.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 11:30 PM   #959
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Imo it's definitely balcony construction. We can clearly see on many pictures that ibeams makes platforms on which stands steel pipes supporting either u/c or freshly build balcony.

What do you guys think about my "crushing" idea how they are constructed? Is it that ridiculous ?
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 02:11 AM   #960
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The bottom of the balcony slab should be in line with the bottom of the interior slab. We see that those platforms have steel plates over steel I-beams over the top of the interior slab. These are staging platforms, not balcony formwork.

In regards to patrykus idea of "crushing", if you are doing new construction, you would never want to go back and have to demolish [crush?] something to be able to continue the work. It is just unacceptable and unpractical from a construction and business perspective. You might as well pour the balconies in place with the interior slab if you have to go back and do significant demolition/preparation of the slab edge for the attachment of the balconies.
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