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Old November 17th, 2014, 10:47 PM   #1281
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I've been reading on how the use of extensive glass especially in residences(floor to ceiling) has a lot of potential practical/environmental/aesthetic problems.... great views but extensive glare, difficulty to regulate heat and cold forcing central air and heating system to work really hard and waste energy, windows potentially being dangerously unstable and in need of repair. It's chic but don't think t's all that practical other than the amazing views. The quality of glass used is more amenable to office towers, residendes have developers who want to squeeze all the profit they can so even in ritzier places the temptation and practice is to use much cheaper , thinner glass. There are instances of great glass buildings using the best materials including thicker, more insulant glass but it is more the exception than the rule. Maybe it's me but just prefer buildings made of stone, earth and show real craftsmanship. In Toronto particularly there's been a lot of complaint about the down side to all glass buildings...some other site basically had something to the effect that residential towers in particular shouldn't be over 30-40% glass and is critical of the tendency towards promoting condos dominated by glass. Not being a NIMBY by any means, but I wonder that unless really strong, durable and insular glass is used for the most part are developers really going in the right direction with these kinds of towers?
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Old November 18th, 2014, 12:33 AM   #1282
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Aren't there building codes describing heat flux and glass thickness for glass fašades in NY (or the US in general)?
If these are being met, I see little problems in using glass.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 08:32 PM   #1283
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 06:16 AM   #1284
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Old December 1st, 2014, 11:14 PM   #1285
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Old December 1st, 2014, 11:22 PM   #1286
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 12:40 AM   #1287
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I've been reading on how the use of extensive glass especially in residences(floor to ceiling) has a lot of potential practical/environmental/aesthetic problems.... great views but extensive glare, difficulty to regulate heat and cold forcing central air and heating system to work really hard and waste energy, windows potentially being dangerously unstable and in need of repair. It's chic but don't think t's all that practical other than the amazing views. The quality of glass used is more amenable to office towers, residendes have developers who want to squeeze all the profit they can so even in ritzier places the temptation and practice is to use much cheaper , thinner glass. There are instances of great glass buildings using the best materials including thicker, more insulant glass but it is more the exception than the rule. Maybe it's me but just prefer buildings made of stone, earth and show real craftsmanship. In Toronto particularly there's been a lot of complaint about the down side to all glass buildings...some other site basically had something to the effect that residential towers in particular shouldn't be over 30-40% glass and is critical of the tendency towards promoting condos dominated by glass. Not being a NIMBY by any means, but I wonder that unless really strong, durable and insular glass is used for the most part are developers really going in the right direction with these kinds of towers?
I am not sure about the environmental qualities of the glass. It is supposed to be as you said (not very environmentally friendly) but I am not sure about the recent developments on its technology and improved environmental friendliness.

But apart of that, of one thing I am sure, and it is that I wouldn't like to live in an apartment where you are not able to open a window ever and be forced to use air conditioning all the time...

That is a thing that I like about this building, It not only has operable windows (contrasting other buildings such as 432 Park), but it also has exterior spaces in every apartment. That is something that I highly appreciate.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 01:28 AM   #1288
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 10:08 PM   #1289
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I've heard the opposite, that reflective glass is more environmentally friendly.
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 02:50 AM   #1290
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We should just cut to the chase, and landmark this building now.
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 03:51 AM   #1291
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I've heard the opposite, that reflective glass is more environmentally friendly.
Reflective glass is better at insulating the building, which reduces the need for climate control. It does heat up the street to an extent, although I'm not sure if the subsequent increase in automobile A/C usage offsets the savings from the building or what. Buildings are our biggest energy users, so I assume the reflective glass is, in the aggregate, more energy efficient.
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 05:43 AM   #1292
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 03:10 PM   #1293
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 03:17 PM   #1294
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 11:14 PM   #1295
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Reflective glass is better at insulating the building, which reduces the need for climate control. It does heat up the street to an extent, although I'm not sure if the subsequent increase in automobile A/C usage offsets the savings from the building or what. Buildings are our biggest energy users, so I assume the reflective glass is, in the aggregate, more energy efficient.
Reflective glass is only energy efficient in warm climates. In cold climates it is less efficient.

Is New York in a net-cooling climate? By that I mean is more energy spent on cooling during warm weather than on heating during cold weather?
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 11:36 PM   #1296
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Old December 5th, 2014, 02:53 AM   #1297
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