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Old September 15th, 2008, 12:10 PM   #1
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TURKEY | Railways

Turkish Ministry of Transportation have announced that Sirkeci-Halkalı and Haydarpaşa-Gebze suburban rail lines will be closed in December 8, 2008, as a a part of Marmaray Bosphorus rail tunnel project. İstanbul will remain for at least two years without trains. Then only metro trains will use the rail lines, mainline passenger and freight trains will not proceed past Gebze to Haydarpaşa.

Rail enthusiastic website kentvedemiryolu.com has started a signing campaign to protect the historic railroads of this amazing city.

http://kentvedemiryolu.com/marmaray_...g_campaign.php

Rail enthusiastics! Do not let İstanbul become "trainless"!
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Old September 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #2
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Old September 17th, 2008, 07:23 PM   #3
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oh! really? that's bad. i was ready to plan a trip to Istanbul by train from thessaloniki in march but i guess i have to travel by car cause buses are not comfortable...
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Old September 18th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #4
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oh! really? that's bad. i was ready to plan a trip to Istanbul by train from thessaloniki in march but i guess i have to travel by car cause buses are not comfortable...
I guess you could still go to Istanbul by rail. But instead of going all the way to Sirkeci the train will probably stop somewhere in the west of the city.
Too bad for the suburban train, I like the line on the european side, with its 50 years old french trains.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 03:30 PM   #5
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guys what serdar samanlı said is totaly lie. He makes anti propaganda against tunnel construction under Bosphorus. Until the line will be complated, trains will temporary won't work for a few years, that's all. project is a long metro line and plus a train line will pass Bosphorus under water and a train from Shangai will go to London directly.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 03:43 PM   #6
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this is the project














this trains will operate as metro line.


stations




as you see, serdar samanlı doesn't tel the truth. Project needs just two years more. It will start to operate in 2011

btw this construction caused archeological excavations. And we learned new knowlegdes about the 5000 years old past of the city. Excavation will cause us to change all our information about Istanbul's past.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #7
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guys what serdar samanlı said is totaly lie. He makes anti propaganda against tunnel construction under Bosphorus. Until the line will be complated, trains will temporary won't work for a few years, that's all. project is a long metro line and plus a train line will pass Bosphorus under water and a train from Shangai will go to London directly.
They are going to close Haydarpaşa station and turn it into a hotel. "Are you aware of the danger?"

I don't want to trade Haydarpaşa for a tunnel that no one will see from the surface.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 11:44 PM   #8
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oh! really? that's bad. i was ready to plan a trip to Istanbul by train from thessaloniki in march but i guess i have to travel by car cause buses are not comfortable...
What are you waiting for? Sign!
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Old September 24th, 2008, 12:17 PM   #9
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The last tunnel segment has been immersed.
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Old September 24th, 2008, 03:45 PM   #10
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The Bosporus Rail Link project is very important. I am so glad it is being built. Connecting Istanbul's rail systems and allowing rail travel from London to Shanghai is crucial.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 09:53 AM   #13
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What about Haydarpasha
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:39 PM   #14
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It will serve as a museum or another tourist attraction...
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:52 PM   #15
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It will serve as a museum or another tourist attraction...
like Gare D'Orsay in Paris

it was the one of the historical main stations of Paris.


now it is one of the most important art museums of Europe



it is important to convert Haydarpaşa station to anything like this. It must be a public used building, not hotel as the financial benefits of a few richy rich. It is our building and our history, belongs to all of us. It must be a public building again. Like D'Orsay.

Same goes to Sirkeci Station.
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Unfortunately museums do not make profit meanwhile hotels make lots of profit and our government is seeking ways to create new rich guys instead of serving the public so Haydarpaşa might be hotel.
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come on, there is justice and laws. Look at Dubai Towers! look at Galataport!
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Old September 26th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #18
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the project of the tunnel is very important for euro-asian communications.it's unbeliavable how somebody can be against it.also in bucharest we were building a bridge and works were stopped due to a nongovernammental organization tha's against it.what a shame!
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Does your bridge destroy any historical fabric?
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if i was from Istanbul i wouldnt care even if the suburban lines were closed for 3 years... this is a huge and really important project! the city needs it... i wont sign. sorry
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