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Old December 22nd, 2008, 06:04 PM   #261
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they don't run anymore...
They still run I have seen them in Sirkeci station
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 06:34 PM   #262
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when? I use Sirkeci and I don't see them!

though it is not important because of whole system will be cancelled and modernized soon.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 07:00 PM   #263
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E8000s were purchased in 1955 and many of them are stil running! I hope there are among the oldest surviving EMUs in the world. They definitely deserve a place in museums
The world's oldest EMU still running are probably on line A in Buenos Aires (more than 90 years old). When they where withdrawn the EMU on Athen's "Ilektricos" and Montréal Deux-Montagnes line were more than 75 years old.
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Old December 23rd, 2008, 05:05 PM   #264
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i think he meant the machines, not the line.
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Old December 23rd, 2008, 05:45 PM   #265
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i think he meant the machines, not the line.
Yes and heavy rail machines not metro
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Old December 24th, 2008, 09:27 PM   #266
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I think he meant the EMU as well. On line A there are really some old machines running, very nice machines btw!
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Old December 25th, 2008, 02:49 AM   #267
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Yes and heavy rail machines not metro
I was talking about EMU. BA line A is indeed a metro.
But Athens Ilektricos was a suburban "heavy rail" before been integrated to the metro network, the same than your Baliyö lines that will eventually become a metro if I understand well the project. And Montréal Deux-Montagnes is heavy rail also.
But we are off-topic. It may be a good idea to open a thread dedicated to the oldest engines still in regular operation though.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 12:44 PM   #268
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I was talking about EMU. BA line A is indeed a metro.
But Athens Ilektricos was a suburban "heavy rail" before been integrated to the metro network, the same than your Baliyö lines that will eventually become a metro if I understand well the project. And Montréal Deux-Montagnes is heavy rail also.
But we are off-topic. It may be a good idea to open a thread dedicated to the oldest engines still in regular operation though.
yes you understood very well
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Old December 29th, 2008, 01:46 PM   #269
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The Turkish Authorities should be congratulated for taking a strategic, long-term approach to their transport development. 250 km/h is fairly modest by current high speed rail standards, but fast enough to give a viable alternative to domestic air travel.

January's International Railway Journal has an article covering high speed rail developments in Turkey:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sb/irj0109/#/0
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Old December 29th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #270
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thank you for the information... they are some infos from the website you sent.


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interior of CAF HST of TCDD



Map of HSR projects of Turkey (west side)


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That plan looks pretty ambitious... but is it realistic ?

And is anyone aware of any progress regarding the rail line
around Van Lake ?

Thanks in advance,
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Old December 30th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #272
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"Ankara - Izmir"
Current: 13hr 30mins
Future: 3hr 30mins

Wow!
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Old December 30th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #273
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Actually it is really realistic. TCDD wants to be alternate of motorway traffic and when we consider the rise of the airways and increasing air traffic numbers, investments on the railways and all those projects are realistic.

I have not any current info about Van Lake yet...
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Actually it is really realistic. TCDD wants to be alternate of motorway traffic and when we consider the rise of the airways and increasing air traffic numbers, investments on the railways and all those projects are realistic.

I have not any current info about Van Lake yet...
Why did the Turkish authorities decide on a 250 km/h (155mph) top speed? Will future lines run at higher speeds?
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:13 PM   #275
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actually 250km/h is for beginning , there is 350km/h project. Korean Rotem and Turkish TUVASAŞ found a joint company and they will produce trains wich have 350 km/h speed. Lines are built as suitable for 350 km/h. I think we must wit till the Istanbul-Ankara line operates.
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Old December 31st, 2008, 01:27 PM   #276
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Turkey will produce High Tech Locomotives with General Electric
Turkish TÜLOMSAŞ and General Electric founded TÜLOMSAŞ-GE factory in Eskişehir to produce high technology locomotives for Euro-Asia and Middle East markets and TÜLOMSAŞ-GE will be the European base of GE. TÜLOMSAŞ-GE will also produce new modern locomotives for TCDD. General Electirc also transfers whole technology to TÜLOMSAŞ.





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Old December 31st, 2008, 02:15 PM   #277
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New Rotem EMU set for Baskentray and Egeray

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This picture was taken in Eurotem plant -located in Adapazari/Turkey-recently, the new EMU sets are awaiting for operation on the renoved commuter lines in Izmir and Ankara.....
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Old December 31st, 2008, 05:54 PM   #278
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Turkey will produce High Tech Locomotives with General Electric
Turkish TÜLOMSAŞ and General Electric founded TÜLOMSAŞ-GE factory in Eskişehir to produce high technology locomotives for Euro-Asia and Middle East markets and TÜLOMSAŞ-GE will be the European base of GE. TÜLOMSAŞ-GE will also produce new modern locomotives for TCDD. General Electirc also transfers whole technology to TÜLOMSAŞ.





will they be diesel or electric I suppose they will be diesel
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electric of course... but maybe it hybrit
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This picture was taken in Eurotem plant -located in Adapazari/Turkey-recently, the new EMU sets are awaiting for operation on the renoved commuter lines in Izmir and Ankara.....

Izmir will have CAF trains. These are for Ankara and imo very nice EMU's.
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