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Old January 2nd, 2009, 06:02 AM   #281
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:43 PM   #282
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Is the opening date of the line Eskisehir-Ankara known ? It should be very soon...march,april ?
Will the new HS trains continue to Istanbul in the same time , using the classical line for Ist-Eski and the HSR for Eski-Ank ? How many time for this mixed journey (perhaps +-5 hours).
Is a target of completion for the second phase (Ist-Esk) seriously envisaged ?
Same question for Polatli-Konya.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:34 PM   #283
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Impressive until this thread I thought Turkey doesn't have high speed trains see you in April, go Turkey
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:54 PM   #284
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Is the opening date of the line Eskisehir-Ankara known ? It should be very soon...march,april ?
Will the new HS trains continue to Istanbul in the same time , using the classical line for Ist-Eski and the HSR for Eski-Ank ? How many time for this mixed journey (perhaps +-5 hours).
Is a target of completion for the second phase (Ist-Esk) seriously envisaged ?
Same question for Polatli-Konya.
country is just focused on the local elections wich will be very important this time at the end of the March. I think opening of HSR will be an election propaganda...
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 12:05 AM   #285
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Georgeous Turkey! I am so proud to see this development in the brother country
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Old January 4th, 2009, 07:56 PM   #286
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That's it. So the E8000 are operating on the european "banliyö" and the E14000 on the asian side? By the way I found that the E8000 are quite well maintened considering their age.
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btw those trains remind me Habana's suburban train from Casablanca station in Cuba:

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Old January 4th, 2009, 11:31 PM   #287
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btw those trains remind me Habana's suburban train from Casablanca station in Cuba:

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Maybe they are Alstom-built too
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Old January 5th, 2009, 12:20 PM   #288
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country is just focused on the local elections wich will be very important this time at the end of the March. I think opening of HSR will be an election propaganda...
So you think it will be opened before the election?
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Old January 5th, 2009, 12:22 PM   #289
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yes, I think... because such actions are always used for election campaign here. I guess you already noticed this point my friend.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 03:46 PM   #290
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Here we go, I just hope it will finally happen and that the ticket prices will not be excessively high making for an affordable alternative of the buses. But again it says it will be test runs so I wonder when those trains will begin regular scheduled operation.

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Turkey's fast trains to begin passenger test runs in February

Fast trains will begin test runs with passengers in Turkey by the end of February at the latest, Transportation Minister Binali Yildirim said Monday. (UPDATED)




Yildirm told a press conference that test runs between the Turkish capital, Ankara, and the western province of Eskisehir have been completed, adding that passengers runs would begin by the end of February at the latest.

A fast train service between the central province of Ankara and Konya is also expected to be in service by 2010, if the infrastructure is completed, he added.

The government, which plans to establish a network of train lines around the country, has allocated $2 billion for the project and aims to have all the lines operational by 2023, broadcaster CNNTurk said.

The project foresees train lines running from the eastern province of Kars to Bulgaria.

The project plans to reduce the traveling time between Turkey's largest city, Istanbul, and the capital, Ankara, to three hours.

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Interesting, thanks. I'm a bit confused by the newspaper reporting by Hurriyet, though. What exactly is the project that the Turkish government has allocated 2 billion dollars for? It reads as if it's the expansion of the railway network between now and 2023, but that cannot be true. Even though land prices and construction costs ARE lower in Turkey than in France and Germany they're not going to get much HSL for that money.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 05:31 PM   #292
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Interesting, thanks. I'm a bit confused by the newspaper reporting by Hurriyet, though. What exactly is the project that the Turkish government has allocated 2 billion dollars for? It reads as if it's the expansion of the railway network between now and 2023, but that cannot be true. Even though land prices and construction costs ARE lower in Turkey than in France and Germany they're not going to get much HSL for that money.
don't trust what Turkish newspapers say on technical details. They usually give wrong numbers.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 05:32 PM   #293
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Here we go, I just hope it will finally happen and that the ticket prices will not be excessively high making for an affordable alternative of the buses. But again it says it will be test runs so I wonder when those trains will begin regular scheduled operation.
so, we can expect the regular operations at the end of the March before the election.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 11:53 PM   #294
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wow those trains look very luxurious! so there's one line constructed already from Ankara to Eskisehir?
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Old January 5th, 2009, 11:57 PM   #295
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yes, and it will be opened as a political propaganda right before the local elections...
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Old January 6th, 2009, 11:35 AM   #296
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"-- HIGH-SPEED TRAIN TO BE READY IN FEBRUARY
High-speed train service between Ankara and central city of Eskisehir will begin no later than February to test whether people are interested in the project and whether they are pleased with it. The ticket prices will be set according to costs of the test run."



High-speed train trial runs with passengers to start in February


Transportation Minister Binali Yıldırım held a news conference in Ankara yesterday where he informed the public about his ministry’s projects to be implemented in 2009.

Turkey's new high-speed train line will begin making trial runs with passengers by the end of February at the latest, Transportation Minister Binali Yıldırım announced yesterday.

The new high-speed trains, which can travel at speeds of up to 140 kilometers per hour, will make their trial runs between Eskişehir and Ankara, Yıldırım told the Anatolia news agency. He also said construction began last year on a high-speed train line linking Ankara and Sivas. He added that the Ankara-Konya high-speed train line will be in service in 2010.

When asked when the high-speed train will start its regular service between Ankara and Eskişehir, Yıldırım said it takes time to complete the project, which was started in 2003.

"In Europe, high-speed train line construction lasts at least eight years. We started to build the Ankara-Eskişehir line in 2003. This is a difficult task which requires attention to detail," he said, adding that first test rides without passengers were done in June and that certificates were obtained. Now, he said, they are testing security at two passageways.

Yıldırım also said that Turkish State Railways (TCDD) was also planning to launch high-speed trains connecting İzmir and Bursa and İstanbul and Bursa. Ankara, İstanbul, Bursa, İzmir, Balıkesir, Adapazarı and Kocaeli will all be connected with high-speed trains, and these projects are planned to be completed by 2013.

He said that despite an increase in rail projects, they still haven't been able to reach the level the country's founder Mustafa Kemal Atatürk achieved in the 1920s and 1930s. Yıldırım said that from 1923 to 1946, Turkey constructed 128 kilometers of railway per year. From 1946 to 2003 that figure dropped to 11 kilometers per year. Since 2003, the TCDD has laid 107 kilometers of track each year.

Yıldırım noted that the Marmaray Project, which will connect both sides of the Bosporus with a rail tunnel, will be completed by 2011. The project will provide an upgrade to the commuter rail system in İstanbul by connecting the Halkalı district on the European side with Gebze on the Asian side with an uninterrupted, high-capacity commuter rail system. Tracks on both sides of the Bosporus will be connected through a tunnel under the strait.

Among the other projects, he said that the ministry is planning to construct more divided highways. He said they have already integrated 15,358 kilometers of divided highways into the system. For 2009, they will add 17,000 kilometers more, and in 2011 an additional 22,500 kilometers, he added.

Investments will not cease in new year, says minister

Transportation Minister Binali Yıldırım said the TCDD will continue public investments in 2009 despite cuts in its budget. He noted that the bid for the construction of the first part of the Ankara-Sivas high-speed train line was finished and that the Baku-Kars-Tiflis railway project was continuing as planned. Yıldırım said freight transportation by rail had increased 43 percent and passenger transportation by 10 percent in 2008. He said the government was working on 1,400 kilometers of new railway projects and that the annual construction of railways since 2003 was 107 kilometers. Recalling that the Turkish Locomotive and Engine Industry Corporation (TÜLOMSAŞ) and General Electric will manufacture high-technology locomotives and export them overseas, the minister stressed that domestic sources will supply 51 percent of the production material. He said the government expected to link the ports and factories in certain cities to main railway lines.

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Old January 6th, 2009, 02:45 PM   #297
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Interesting, thanks. I'm a bit confused by the newspaper reporting by Hurriyet, though. What exactly is the project that the Turkish government has allocated 2 billion dollars for? It reads as if it's the expansion of the railway network between now and 2023, but that cannot be true. Even though land prices and construction costs ARE lower in Turkey than in France and Germany they're not going to get much HSL for that money.
The government has finally decided to look to rail to solve its road traffic nightmare."For the first time since 1946 our railways are now at the centre of our transport policy," says Yildirim. "We plan to invest 1 trillion Euro up to 2025." The cornerstones of the railway investment plan are the tunner under the Bosphorus in Istanbul to link the European and Asian parts of Turkey by rail for the first time, and the high-speed network.

Source : International Rail Journal - January 2009
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Old January 16th, 2009, 05:55 AM   #298
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Old January 18th, 2009, 07:36 AM   #299
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"This tunnel will connect Shangai to London."

Shanghai and London are already connected by the Transsiberian Railway. Even Asian Turkey is very indirectly connected to London by Rail via Russia and Iran.
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Old January 19th, 2009, 12:01 PM   #300
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Some other views from the Railway Fair IRS 2008-Istanbul









new EMU for suburban lines.




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