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Old September 27th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #21
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Current suburban trains of Istanbul and HST in Haydarpaşa Station in Istanbul.
At last we will get rid of these machines two months later. They have lifetime till next December.
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Old September 27th, 2008, 01:32 PM   #22
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the project of the tunnel is very important for euro-asian communications.it's unbeliavable how somebody can be against it.also in bucharest we were building a bridge and works were stopped due to a nongovernammental organization tha's against it.what a shame!
yes, very important...

this is one of the important projects for euro-asia connection
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Guys , ground breaking ceremony of Baku-Tiblisi-Kars railway line was two days ago. When the project complated, pesengers will go to Europe from Baku by train non-stop.



then lines will continue like this. (I guess a project from kars to Sivas is needed). And will arrive to Bulgarian,Greek border. Today Greece and Turkey operate a nice line between Salonica and Istanbul. If we can organize an agreement, line can continue to Greece over E.Thrace (construction didn't start yet) and W.Thrace and arrive Salonica. It is my idea. But when we are already operating a common line, why shouldn't we build a new Thraco-Macedonian HSR line.

But it follows Bulgaria. That means lines will connect to Hungary, Austria and Germany. Who knows? There is not such projects yet.


Turkey bought HST from Spain and started to prouce with Korea under the name of EUROTEM (cooporation of Turkish TUVASAŞ and Korean Rotem)


Trains bought from Spain, during the test drives in Ankara Main Station
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Old September 27th, 2008, 02:04 PM   #23
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Not only suburban lines will close main lne trains won't be let into İstanbul for three years. Thousands of passengers use those trains to travel from İstanbul to other cities. If there will be no trains how will they travel? By car? In a country where around 7-8 thousand people are killed in road accidents every year?
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Old September 27th, 2008, 02:12 PM   #24
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if i was from Istanbul i wouldnt care even if the suburban lines were closed for 3 years... this is a huge and really important project! the city needs it... i wont sign. sorry
Thanks...this project will connect Shangai to London! It is not a project just for Turkey but it is a project of Global world! Also very few people against this project and even they dont know them selves why they are against it...
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Old September 27th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #25
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http://kentvedemiryolu.com/indir.php...ray_raporu.pdf

Experts say that the course of Marmaray is wrong and it will not reduce the traffic on the bridges and will not solve the traffic problem. It is a project of looting Istanbul's industrial heritage by our greedy government which disguises this project as "urban transformation".
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Old September 27th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #26
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experts? wich experts are they? Marmaray is not for traffic, but for transportation.

Istanbul's industrial heritage??? What heritage????

Serdar what you are talking about is just politics, not the reality! Plus, those "experts" kick theirselves. Because this project is not the porject of this goverment. It is a state project wich was planned even before this government. Marmaray and HSR lines are planned in 2000 and come to the life during the time of this goverment.
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Old September 27th, 2008, 09:10 PM   #27
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Does your bridge destroy any historical fabric?
yes, it will destroy a beer fabric from 1880's but that fabric is a very ugly building(like most industrial buildings).the area will look much greater with the bridge instead of the beer fabric, and it will solve the traffic in that area.
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Old September 27th, 2008, 09:30 PM   #28
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fabrics and indisturial buildings are not heritage, because they are not culturel buildings. Espacially Istanbul's are very ugly, dirthy and already when it has been built they shouldn't have been built.
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Old September 27th, 2008, 10:57 PM   #29
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ohhh come on serdar samanlı. nobody's gonna hurt by the tunnel... in reverse there a huge advantage. of course this tunnel is not going to solve the whole traffic problem of the city but its VERY VERY IMPORTANT. you need to drive to the bridge and back down from karakoy to kadikoy nowadays. its a whole circle... you can also take the ferry but this tunnel will make the distance really short... you will be across the sea in a few mins... this connection is a necessity for Istanbul! wake up!
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Old September 28th, 2008, 12:38 AM   #30
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like Gare D'Orsay in Paris

it was the one of the historical main stations of Paris.


now it is one of the most important art museums of Europe



it is important to convert Haydarpaşa station to anything like this. It must be a public used building, not hotel as the financial benefits of a few richy rich. It is our building and our history, belongs to all of us. It must be a public building again. Like D'Orsay.

Same goes to Sirkeci Station.

Museé d'Haydarpaşa would be a great idea but will Kadir Topbaş accept this?
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Old September 28th, 2008, 12:56 AM   #31
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Actually the Bosphorus tunnel project dates back to 1860. But it was projected to link Sirkeci and Haydarpaşa stations so these stations would continue serving as train stations. This government changed the course so it now bypasses these two train stations. What I want is a Marmaray project that includes Haydarpaşa and Sirkeci stations.
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a century old train station for High Speed Bullet train?
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Old September 28th, 2008, 12:07 PM   #33
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Museé d'Haydarpaşa would be a great idea but will Kadir Topbaş accept this?
what is its relation with Topbaş? It belongs to TCDD, plus Monuments counsil is responsible.
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Old September 28th, 2008, 01:49 PM   #34
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a century old train station for High Speed Bullet train?
Why, that would be oarsome! That's what Haydarpaşa deserves to!
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Old September 28th, 2008, 01:50 PM   #35
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I thought Haydarpaşa will be out of TCDD's responsibility with Marmaray
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Old September 28th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #36
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Serdar, I love Haydarpaşa stadion very much. But, please don't make me hate it, please. Haydarpaşa is out! Okay? Forget it now and try to focus on the reality!

And yuo also ask what will Yedikule or Samatya people will do when Marmaray starts. First learn, than have an idea please! There is another subway line wich is already planned between Yenikapı and Bakırköy.

This tunnel the best thing ever happened in this city in the name of public transportation.

And don't worry for Haydarpaşa's future anymore (wich is completely another issue)
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Old September 29th, 2008, 10:43 PM   #37
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TURKEY | Railways

Railways in Turkey has a long history but it was disregardful for a long time till the recent years.

Here is the Railway network of Turkey. And the map shows u/c and planned HSR lines. But also many new regional lines are under construction that are not shown in this map.


Turkish Republic State Railways' (TCDD) first HSR line, Eskişehir-Ankara will be oprated next April. Train sets are bought from Spain's CAF company

CAF train set at Ankara Main Train Station



TCDD HT 65000 from CAF of Spain, 250 km/h speed




Trains representation


High Speed Line wich is complated between Ankara and Eskişehir




Eskişehir-Istanbul Line is u/c. Photo shows the construction, current rail line and motorway


Turkish TUVASAŞ locomotive company and Korean ROTEM partnership, EUROTEM company will produce High Speed Train in Adapazarı, Turkey. HST factory is u/c.


Contruction Ceremony of the factory


Factory's first production will be HSR -350x, 350 km/h speed


Ankara's HSR Central Station is approved. it will have 15 million 15 Million pass/year capacity and be built next to current station





Brown is current station. New station is behind.


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TCDD bought new Regional trains from Korean ROTEM. They are deisel and drives at Adana- Mersin, Kırıkkale- Ankara, Denizli- İzmir and Kütahya- Eskişehir lines.


TCDD will buy new suburban train sets from ROTEM for Ankara. Their Speed is 140 km/h

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Old September 29th, 2008, 11:07 PM   #38
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Another important porject of Turkey is Underwater Railway/Metro Tunnel between European side and Asian side of Istanbul wich is called shortly "Marmaray" in Turkish. This tunnel will connect Shangai to London.














this trains will operate as metro line.


stations


Tube construction under water is complated last week. Underground tunnels openned also. Now the project will start its second step. Suburban Trains of Istanbul will be cancelled. And Line will be upgraded to metro standards. 3 lines will operate, two for public transportation of Istanbul, one line is for trains. French Alstom will construct the this part of the project. Current trains is going to be history in next December

Current suburban train at Haydarpaşa Station in Istanbul


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Another important railway project for Euro-Asia transportation is Baku-Tblisi-Kars Railway is under construction


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Old September 30th, 2008, 01:25 AM   #39
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Diesel Train program of TÜVASAŞ
Company will produce these trains for regional lines.




Photos of TCDD trains

Special Carriers produced by TÜVASAŞ

Saloon Carrier:









Conference Carrier:













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Well done Kuvvaci - Beautifull Trains and high quality Engineering Projects.
Thanks for posting.
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