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Old September 9th, 2010, 12:54 PM   #441
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I think we need some update regarding highspeed in Turkey.

The Konya line is 90% completed. PM Erdogan will use the highspeed train to go to Konya from Ankara on december to pay a visit to a festival taking place in this city.





Beside this the proposal for Eskisehir's new terminal has been finally published. It will be built next to the current station similar to the plan in Ankara.
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This is new approved project of Ankara. It will be comleted by 2013 with the comlete opening of the Ankara-Eskisehir-Istanbul / Konya-Eskisehir-Istanbul line.





Ankara-Konya line 90% completed:




now we must wait for the projects of Istanbul and konya...

Messi, I don't understand why Yozgat railway started before Ankara-Izmir?
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Old September 9th, 2010, 02:19 PM   #442
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2 reasons I guess. First because it is Izmir and second in order to foster the development in eastern Turkey.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 07:25 PM   #443
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I wished they have gone with cutting edge rail technology with 350km/h standard not 250km/h. anyways, it is better than nothing.
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Old September 11th, 2010, 12:24 PM   #444
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I wished they have gone with cutting edge rail technology with 350km/h standard not 250km/h. anyways, it is better than nothing.
Technically, the line to Konya is capable of trains performing at 300 kmh for much of the way, as it is basically a straight line drawn through a plain. However as other routes are built for 250 kmh max. (the rather winding Ankara-Eskişehir line often slows down to less for curves), and Turkish trains are built for 250 kmh, so for the moment there will be no faster services. The continuation of the line, if it will ever be built, from Konya to Karaman is planned as a mere upgrade of an existing line, so there would be no point in speeding on this rather short route. Anyways, for a country that is used to trains traveling at 60 kmh, it is a revolution, and it is fine to stick to speeds that are somewhat less than what France or China have to offer.
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Old September 11th, 2010, 05:56 PM   #445
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I wished they have gone with cutting edge rail technology with 350km/h standard not 250km/h. anyways, it is better than nothing.
As far as I know, there will be two series of trains, the current one
limited to 250 km/h, built by CAF (Spain) and the next one, which will
be built by an industrial association between a turkish and a corean
company, and this one will be able to reach 350 km/h. Or at least this
is what I understoood. Am I right ?
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Old September 12th, 2010, 02:29 AM   #446
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Old September 14th, 2010, 03:40 PM   #447
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Yay, last week I joined the ranks of people who travelled at 250 kmh by train. It costs only 16 liras and is a very smooth ride - comparable to those in Germany and France. The only problem was I couldn't see the end of the movie as the trip finished before the movie did.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 01:33 PM   #448
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For my taste it was not as smooth as an ICE or TGV, I wondered why it's not.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 03:19 PM   #449
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For my taste it was not as smooth as an ICE or TGV, I wondered why it's not.
Maybe it has been too long since I rode ICE and TGV. Well, still smoother than other Turkish trains.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 04:52 PM   #450
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Yay, last week I joined the ranks of people who travelled at 250 kmh by train. It costs only 16 liras and is a very smooth ride - comparable to those in Germany and France. The only problem was I couldn't see the end of the movie as the trip finished before the movie did.
nice humor

what about the line to Kars? will it be upgraded to increase speed and cut distance? cause it will be connected to Georgia and Azerbaijan soon, I have doubts it will be capable to be good enough for fast passenger trains from Baku and Tbilisi to Istanbul.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:28 PM   #451
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nice humor

what about the line to Kars? will it be upgraded to increase speed and cut distance? cause it will be connected to Georgia and Azerbaijan soon, I have doubts it will be capable to be good enough for fast passenger trains from Baku and Tbilisi to Istanbul.
It definitely is not. While the border crossing to Kars will be ready in a few years (2011? 2012? forgot), Istanbul - Kars is being outfitted as a mostly completely new HSR (New Silk Road), but this of course will take time. By 2016, it should be finished until Sivas, but the gap from there to Kars will take forever to fill (maybe 2023, if everything goes well). In the meantime, I believe the track to Kars will remain what it is now, a bicycle speed, single track, signal-free piece of low-tec rail.
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Turks, Chinese to build high-speed train lines across Turkey

Turkish and Chinese companies will jointly construct high-speed train lines in Turkey, Turkish State Railways, or TCDD, Director General Süleyman Karaman said Friday.


TCDD Director General Süleyman Karaman (L) hosts Chinese Railways Minister Lie Zhijun on a Turkish high-speed train. AA photo

Under an agreement signed between China and Turkey last week, China will grant loans for the construction of a Silk Road Railway of high-speed train lines between Edirne and Kars.

"We are planning to construct lines for high-speed trains between Ankara-Izmir, Ankara-Sivas, Sivas-Erzincan, Erzincan-Trabzon, Sivas-Malatya, Elazig-Diyarbakir, Eskisehir-Antalya and Konya-Antalya," Karaman told journalists.

"We need $45 billion for Turkey's target to construct 6,000 kilometers of high-speed tracks and 4,000 kilometers of conventional railroad tracks by 2023. Within the scope of the agreement signed with China, this country will finance $28 billion of this target," Karaman said.

Karaman said China was planning to construct 2,000 kilometers of railroad tracks both in and outside the country, noting that China was carrying out many projects in Libya, Algeria and the United States with this goal.

Karaman said China was working to create a market in European countries and to this end considered Turkey an area to promote itself.

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That is a huge deal if it is true.
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Its true
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That is the biggest loan I have ever seen coming out from China.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:32 AM   #456
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"We need $45 billion for Turkey's target to construct 6,000 kilometers of high-speed tracks and 4,000 kilometers of conventional railroad tracks by 2023. Within the scope of the agreement signed with China, this country will finance $28 billion of this target," Karaman said.
Just amazing !
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Old October 20th, 2010, 07:55 AM   #457
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As far as I know Turkey decided to produce Korean trains for its Istanbul-Ankara line. Now, after this deal, I guess they will adopt Chinese models in the future..?
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Old October 20th, 2010, 08:38 AM   #458
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I can barely contain my rage hearing that an enlightened, democratic, free Nato nation would ever submit itself to a cruel, evil, abomination of a Communist neo-Nazi genocidal country. Communist China must be stopped at all costs before it lays more high speed rails in its apocalyptic attempt to spread its tentacles of a co-prosperity sphere across the world! This wave of evil swallowed Africa and now it wants to devour Europe too! The forces of freedom and democracy must stop this evil once and for all and we can start by refusing to let it build high speed rail on our soil!
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But anyway, that's crazy though, 6000 km of high speed rail!?! Isn't that the total length of high speed rail in operation in China today? Does this mean that Turkey would have one of the largest HSR networks in the world by 2023? That sounds amazing!
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I think by 2023 many other countries will have more km's



Acording to the map its roughly 2x 3,000km.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 02:06 PM   #460
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I think by 2023 many other countries will have more km's



Acording to the map its roughly 2x 3,000km.
I dont believe this map is true because it doesnt show Ankara-Konya line. Or it is just a drawing mistake
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