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Old May 10th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #501
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yes this is true... Istanbul Edirne-Kapıkule (Bulgarian border) line will start soon. It is wonderful...
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Old May 11th, 2011, 08:16 PM   #502
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What is the expected date for starting operation on Ankara-Konya line? Is it going to start this summer or more like late 2011?
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Old May 12th, 2011, 03:28 PM   #503
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I wrote that just a few days ago. Please read at least the last page before posting questions.
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(Ankara-/Eskisehir) Polatli - Konya - undergoing test rides, awaiting certification and begin of commercial operations ca. 1 June.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 06:19 PM   #504
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I wrote that just a few days ago. Please read at least the last page before posting questions.
First of all, if it is too much trouble for you, don't answer.

Second, I saw post #497 where it says test will start in two weeks which is contradictory to what you wrote.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 10:31 AM   #505
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You have a valid point then. The way I understand said post by Messi, based on press releases at the time, is that tests of the Konya Station will start by then. The station, as the pictures show, is still under construction, but otherwise the route is ready. There have been test rides since last December, and they are now awaiting certification in order to start commercial operations. As the elections are on June 13 and as the present government has based its campaign almost entirely on bringing highly developed infrastructure to Turkey, they will do all they can to start operations before that date, unless some unexpected problem creeps up.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 02:41 PM   #506
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The highspeed train arrived in Konya Consturction and test rides are completed it is maybe matter of days or maybe weeks until it gets open.

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Old June 8th, 2011, 06:18 AM   #507
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cool I like to see that in istanbul
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Old June 10th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #508
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One more video from Konya. I think we can say that the Ankara-Konya line is 100% completed.

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Old June 12th, 2011, 04:03 AM   #509
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So, if Eskisehir-Ankara and Ankara-Konya is completed, where do they work now, besides Istanbul ?
Maybe towards south, like Antalya ?
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Old June 13th, 2011, 11:49 AM   #510
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Just to recap, for everybody:
- Eskisehir - Istanbul is partially under construction, the closer parts to Istanbul from just south of Sapanca to Izmit and Gebze and the actual renovation of the railway line in Istanbul have not started yet. Thus by autumn of 2013, the official starting date of both Maramaray and the Istanbul - Eskisehir line, the YHT trains will probably end somewhere way before entering the city, or in Kartal at best.
- Ankara - Sivas line is in part under construction. The Ankara-Kirikkale part has yet to be put up for tender.
- Next up is the Eskisehir - Bursa line. For part of it the tender is already closed, but because of a lawsuit against the result, the works could not be awarded to one of the companies yet.
- Polatli-Afyon, as the initial part of the Ankara - Izmir line, is supposed to be up for tender this year.
The Turkish-Chinese cooperation, which will probably concentrate on the East-West corridor of the "New Silk Road" (Edirne-Kars), could possibly start works in Turkey in 2012.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 10:38 PM   #511
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Is Antalya from another country like Kurdistan? I mean, why doesn't they even dig the foundations of its railroad for a century?

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Old July 26th, 2011, 12:53 PM   #512
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Kurdistan is not a country
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Old July 26th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #513
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And Antalya is?
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Old July 26th, 2011, 11:59 PM   #514
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You don't get it like Istanbul is actually Kurdistan before Kurdistan.

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Old August 3rd, 2011, 02:21 PM   #515
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News reports say that commercial operations between Ankara and Konya will start within a few weeks, possibly still in August. The journey will take 1.30 h at present and could be lowered to 1.15 h with construction in the Ankara region finished and operating speeds stepped up later (at present 250 kmh, but 350 kmh is technically possible). For the beginning only 4 departures per day & direction are planned. Also Eskisehir - Konya rides are postponed until later this year. In the beginning prices will be promotional.
In other news, the tender for the first section of Bursa - Eskisehir is now closed. The best offer is from a Turkish company which offers works at as little as half of the estimated costs by the government (under 400 million instead of over 800 million).
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 04:23 PM   #516
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4 departure per day to Konya? It seems too smallÖ How the line will be profitable in such way. In fact I have been wondering why they started constructing HSR Ankara Ė Konya (with such high priority)? Is the traffic between two cities so intensive? But anyway, good news for Bursa line..
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I am sure this is just the beginning. The way Turkish Railways operates these things three is no news of the opening date (or only wrong dates that are postponed), and then when nobody really expects it, these lines open. So first some time for people to learn about the system, for the operators to get acquainted with the line, then increase of services, I think that is how they will do it.
The Konya line does not serve any greater purpose like trans-country or international routes, but it fills a real existing gap, was easy and cheap to build as it runs across a plain (one tunnel only!) through sparcely inhabited land, and last but not least is the most faithful district supporting the government party.
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Is Antalya from another country like Kurdistan? I mean, why doesn't they even dig the foundations of its railroad for a century?
I don't know why it was neglected when it comes to rail development, but in general no, Antalya is not home to a significant non-turkish nationality as far as a I know, not even historically in the last 400 years.

Areas with large non-turkish populations were (till 1920s at least) trebizont (greek), ismir (greek), antioch (armenian and arab), small cicily (armenian), dijarbakir (armenian and kurd), kurs (armenian). Antalya is not on this list.
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I am sure this is just the beginning. The way Turkish Railways operates these things three is no news of the opening date (or only wrong dates that are postponed), and then when nobody really expects it, these lines open. So first some time for people to learn about the system, for the operators to get acquainted with the line, then increase of services, I think that is how they will do it.
The Konya line does not serve any greater purpose like trans-country or international routes, but it fills a real existing gap, was easy and cheap to build as it runs across a plain (one tunnel only!) through sparcely inhabited land, and last but not least is the most faithful district supporting the government party.
Is Konya the endstation fot the time being or are there plans to extend the line to Antalya and or Adana? With those cities and metropolitan regions connected surely the line would be profitable.
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Old August 8th, 2011, 11:09 AM   #520
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Unfortunately there are no great ambitions to develop this line further. There is a plan to connect it to Antalya, but that I find ludicrous. It would pass no bigger city and would have to make a sharp decent through the Taurus mountains. The Eskisehir - Antalya line would definitely be the better solution, as it passes a number of middle-size towns and connects both Istanbul and Ankara, while going via Konya is defintely not an option coming form Istanbul.
There was a project for a new HSL to Mersin and Adana by a different route than the existing line, but this project was shelved and now there is only talk of partially rehabilitating the existing line to Karaman and Adana. The Adana region is densely populated, and it would be a first step of connecting to the large cities of Antep, Urfa, and hopefully one day Aleppo.
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