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Old September 9th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #221
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Old September 9th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #222
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It is the square located in the centre, and all tests must be made in coordination with local police.

Until now all tramways have been tested almost in the strech between the two following stops (do not disturb the traffic) but now they are testing all around, including, of course, this square.

In three weeks aprox, regular service.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #223
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Today it has been presented the Draft for Zaragoza mobility in bus.

In March 2013 the line 1 of Tramway will be on service and several bus lines will be replaced by bus.

But at the same time they want to erase several lines poorly used, as well as other lines can change the current journey.

This is the full document
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3o6s50g85x...%A9cnico.pdf?m

and it is for public appealing for one month.

They are too many changes. Some of them all forumers were sure we would have. Other ones are surprise!!


In the Aragonese subforum we are talking a lot about this document that has been made public this morning.

I expect that soon I would be able to make a summary about main changes... because for anyone who do not know the current network it can be hard!!.
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Old September 18th, 2012, 12:07 AM   #224
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A little summary about draft proposal for new Zaragoza bus network


Current network is this
http://www.tuzsa.es/tuzsa_frm_verdescarga.php?ref=175
(first link, all the network, rest of links, line per line)



1- We should consider L1 tramway, with a high capacity will arrive until the end of the project in March. There is no sense to have any other line together with tramway but they will end just in the nearest stop... and free shuttle to tramway

Tramway will cross the river and continue in the trajectory of lines 20, 23, 42, etc... and later C2



2- Six bus lines will dissapear:

* Line 20 is almost tramway trajectory and the rest can be served with other lines
* Line 30. A big surprise. It was the second more used line at Zaragoza before tramway (this is why the tramway goes there... it was one of the trajectories with more passengers). Since then, only half line has few sense. Line 22 will be changed to make a mix 22/30.
* Line 31. Do not coincides with tramway but small number of passengers. And has the problem that begining-end have other lines to link areas, as well as with shuttle you can arrive anywhere. It has not good frequencies compared with other lines. Trajectories on both corners will be transferred to other lines (which will be enlarged)
The most flashing detail is an avenue will have no transversal line there.
* Line 45. Another surprise. From a suburb there are two lines to centre: 32 and 45 which goes on the same avenue and finish in different areas. They keep the line with more passengers
* Line 50. It has no sense and between the "long lines" I think it is the one with less passengers. It was created to link several neighbouhoods located close. Since shuttle is free, number of passengers went down and down... and all of journeys can be done faster even waiting two buses or tramway with shuttle
* Line C2. No surprise. It is a short line and coincides 100% with tramway trajectory.


Apart of it, all lines arriving the tramway area will finish in the first tramway stop possible



One line will be enlarged (In my opinion to give one neighbourhood a third way to go out by bus), other one will be absolutely changed because tramway and several little changes
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 12:23 AM   #225
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After October 15th all tramway giving service to first phase of line 1 (Mago de Oz - Gran Via) will continue empty for two more stations.

Up to now there are a lot of tramways that are on test making that service empty (they give the full service and continue on test) but after that date they will be all of them

15 days on test and regular service for two more stops will start, arriving until city centre.
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After October 15th all tramway giving service to first phase of line 1 (Mago de Oz - Gran Via) will continue empty for two more stations.

Up to now there are a lot of tramways that are on test making that service empty (they give the full service and continue on test) but after that date they will be all of them

15 days on test and regular service for two more stops will start, arriving until city centre.
So on Oct 30 the tram will be officially extended to Caesar Augustus?
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No, only until Plaza España.
I wonder they will be on time for opening but only to that station.

Cesar Augusto stop will be opening in the middle of December.

Full line in the first days of March 2013
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I wonder they will be on time for opening but only to that station.
So do you think they'll open on time for Plaza España but will be late for Caesar Augustus?
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 04:31 AM   #229
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I do... but they are different dates for both stops.

Plaza España (Square of Spain) is expected for October 30th. All tramways will start doing the full journey but last two stops with no passengers since October 15th (now they keep on several tests).
Caesar August Avenue is expected for about December 17th. Tests will start later than in Square of Spain stop

All these streches are without catenary.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 10:25 PM   #230
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You can see here a map of the Zaragoza tram:
http://www.tranviasdezaragoza.es/med...embre-2012.pdf

The red part is already on service, the blue part will be on service at the end of this month, the purple part in december and the green part in march.
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Old October 6th, 2012, 03:54 PM   #231
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Briefling:
It might suggest that October 25th would be the opening date for the two following stations, Heraldo regional newspaper said.

Service will be enlarged Mago de Oz-Gran Via to Mago de Oz-Plaza de España.



As it can be seen, in this strech, tramway runs without catenary!!!
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Old October 6th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #232
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Major days at Zaragoza start today at will remain for nine days.

While those days:

- Tramway will be operating 24/7. One tramway every 5 minutes until midnight and every 10 minutes until 8:00. A normal week it has a 5 minutes frequency only on peak hours

- All night buses will operate everyday (normally only on Friday and Saturday night) and on Friday, Saturday and 11th (major day eve) will have double frequency.

- Several lines will have service until 3:30. They can be partial journeys only but all neighbourhoods have assured the service until city centre with at least one line.

- Lines that goes to the main areas for these days will have service as a peak hour on weekly day.

- Three lines will be created for these days (one of them drives only 20:00 to 07:00.......)


This pdf is a sample about the service we will have

http://www.tuzsa.es/File.php?Fil_ID=1242
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Old October 8th, 2012, 01:00 AM   #233
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After one and a half year, first knock down of Zaragoza tramway over a pedestrian.

It seems to be because crossing the avenue with pedestrian traffic light in red and do not taking care of tramway arriving.
Fortunately, tramway knocking down worked and pedestrian didn't was under wheels... and very fortunately it was just, just, just in front of main hospital in the city.

Seems not to be important injury, according to the importance of the issue.
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Old October 16th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #235
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According to official tramway webpage, Zaragoza tramway had 480.000 passengers in just 10 days while the city major days.

The top day was the October 12th with 70.195 passengers.

Nowadays less than half of the line is on service only.

One weekday on 2008 while major days the record of passengers all around the full bus network was 490.000... so 1/7 times for just half a line is a very good result






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Posted by forumer Adpg






This photo has been taken in the north side of the city. It is near the last tramway stop.

This strech is expected to be open on March 2013.
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Posted by forumer Zerrudo




This tramway is very close to the last photo I posted.

Stimated opening date: March 2013 for this strech.
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They are only under tests.
This is Plaza de España stop, just in the absolutely city centre.

Zaragoza tramway will start regular service until that stop next Thursday.

It has been estimated a 15% passengers increase with the two new stations.




and.... catenaryless!!!!!!!
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Old October 30th, 2012, 03:34 PM   #239
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Zaragoza tramway. Briefling.
New branch without catenary until Plaza de España stop will be opened tomorrow after 6 days delays.

http://www.heraldo.es/noticias/arago...09971_301.html

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Zaragoza tramway service has been enlarged for two stops until city centre, including stops of Plaza Aragón and Plaza de España and driving within the middle of Independencia Avenue.
More or less is the centre of this image of Google maps

Until yesterday it came from the south until the upper side of Gran Via and today continues until Plaza de España.

With a 5 minutes frequencies between 7:00 and 10:00 and 7 minutes on almost the rest of the day it moved about 1 million passengers and it is estimated to increase 15% more with these two stations.

This strech is without catenary. After the Gran Via stop the wire ends and tramways will run just using their batteries. In every stop there is a system to charge the batteries from the ground in just a few seconds.

Around Christmas the service will be enlarged for two stops more, absolutely in the city centre and in the narrowest streets and at spring it will arrive to the end of the line in the northern side of the city


Heraldo de Aragon newspaper has some pics
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