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Old October 21st, 2008, 12:19 AM   #181
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wtf, I reacted to x-type's post, and now my post is above his. Creepy forum
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Old October 21st, 2008, 12:20 AM   #182
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i am. he's thinking too long. i'm a dead man
With the SSC time machine doing badly again, I'll put my post before yours, and you'll turn out stupid.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 04:42 PM   #183
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Since the price of oil dropped over 50% in the last 2 months, the price of gasoline has fallen from € 1,69 to € 1,387 today. That's $ 6.73 a gallon with current exchange rates (the Euro has also dropped in value, 2 months ago it would've been $ 7.88).
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Old October 25th, 2008, 06:22 PM   #184
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what is ratio of price at world market and current price per litre in your country now, and few months ago when the price at world market was the same as now?
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Old October 25th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #185
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Today at the nearest oil station gasoline costed 1,012 €/l (the cheapest kind), while diesel 1,052 €/l

I guess prices should go down the psicological 1€/l frontier in the next weeks.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 07:25 AM   #186
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For Mexico (the region next to the US border, I think the prices in Central Mexico are higher):

Magna 87 oct: $7.51 MXN/$0.56/€0.44
Premium 93 oct: $9.45 MXN/$0.70/€0.56
Diesel: $6.88 MXN/$0.51/€0.40

Prices per liter

Despite the rising prices, I´m still lucky
Though I sometimes complain about them, because I have a car and don´t earn a salary (high school student, next year I´ll go to a university)
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Old October 27th, 2008, 07:52 AM   #187
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its been 106.4 per litre during the day for the last few days

and 111.5 per litre at night

there is a weird discount scheme so when you get to the pump the price is 3.5 cents cheaper than the sign says...

just a few weeks ago it was in the 148.5 range

so in US$ 81 cents per litre

1 US gallon = 3.78 litres - so that would be 3.06 per gallon with todays exchange rate that would be 2.39 USD per gallon

in euros it would be 64.5 Euros per litre

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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:08 AM   #188
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64.5 euros per liter?

I could fill my tank about 4 times with that amount...


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Old October 27th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #189
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I think spongeg made a small mistake I think he meant eurocents
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Old October 28th, 2008, 12:05 AM   #190
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it's getting better!

Croatia from midnight:

ES95 7,58 kn/l (1,048 €/l) -> -8,45%
ES+98 7,64 kn/l (1,056 €/l) -> -8,5%
ED 7,80 kn/l (1,078 €/l) -> -7,47%


finally quite a something!
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I love financial crises!
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Old October 28th, 2008, 12:28 AM   #192
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Today I saw Euro 95 at €1.28/l. Diesel at 1.08/l.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 12:37 AM   #193
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This low oil price may be good for the gas prices, it's not for the environment. What do you guys think about the future of cars and fuel? Is biodiesel the future (I don't think so), or have electric cars got more potential? One thing is for sure: we will run out of oil at some point, so we have to find a new solution for that.
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oil companies are making chaos on purpose. they are allready 20 years talking that natural reservs are enough only for 50 years. untill they don't start to count down, i'll be sure that there is enough oil for next 300 years.

if miracleously i would believe to those bastards from oil companies, i'd say that first aid would be gas, which is enough developed today. but gas has also limited amounts, so after it i think that hydrogen is the most probable solution.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:32 AM   #195
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It's funny you say that as most neutral geophysicists state that the oil company's projections of reserves and the inevitable production peak are probably overly optimistic (oil companies point to a peak between 2015 and 2032 while most independant observers point to 2005-2012).
Also funny that if there was plenty to ensure economic growth for the next 300 years (which means production would have to double worldwide every 30 years) then why is it that they are scrounging around in the arctic, looking ever deeper into the oceans, digging up tar sands and looking into coal refining and oil shale? In my opinion these all point to an ever more scarse resource. I think youre either overly optimistic or just plain in denial to think that things will keep on ticking along for another 300 years before the decline sets in.

It's pretty dubious as to whether hydrogen will work. 1. it takes alot of energy to produce so while you may have an alternative fuel you will need to drastically increase power production for the production of hydrogen. This becomes a kind of domino effect where for the one you must develop a seamingly endless erray of infrastructure to support it. 2. its very light and unstable meaning a whole brand new infrastructure for distribution would be required (transporting hydrogen by tanker to the gas station? forget it). 3. Hydrogen is basically useless for aircraft (as it freezes at low temperature) 4. The fuel storage area required in a car or truck is massive in comparison to petrol/diesel and requires very expensive containers as hydrogen would just leak away through metal. It would be more likely to ignite in a crash than the current fuels.

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Once we won't be able to afford cars any more, there'll be enough oil for 500 years.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 06:42 AM   #197
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About $3.21/gal...which is €0.68/liter.

Because of a strong dollar, if you have noticed since the beginning of this thread, the price has barely moved in euro.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 10:43 AM   #198
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I think hydrogen is no good solution. I prefer electric cars over hydrogen cars. Like KIWIKAAS said, you need an entire new infrastructure to support it. For electricity it's already there. The big problem is that current electric cars that are suitable for the public only have a range of 200 miles and then need to be recharged for about 3 hours. If they can improve that, there is the solution.
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I saw on tv the other day that they make electric cars that go over 120mph with a range of up to 240 miles and 0-60 faster than most ferarri's. These cost £90k.

The way that the technology is moving means that electric city cars are already affordable and suitable. Electric sockets are needed for some parkign spaces which wouldnt be difficult.

The technology means that in 10 years or so a car may be able to do 300-400 miles from one charge at an affordable price.

If we power the electricity grid by wind, solar, tidal and nuclear then we are sorted. Electric cars etc would mean 20% off our carbon emissions in the UK. The EU has promised to reduce carbon emissions by 80% and this would go most of the way towards doing it if we have clean power.
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The problem might be charging times. If you drive your range of say; 300 miles, you don't want to wait another 12 hours before you continue your journey. Maybe something with swapping of batteries.
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