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Old December 9th, 2012, 03:13 PM   #2381
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Sluis, The Netherlands (prizes in Euro):

Diesel: 1,379 (Tamoil) and 1,429 (Avia)
Fuel E95: 1,709 (Tamoil) and 1,739 (Avia).
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Old December 9th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #2382
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3.25$ a gallon of regular today in New Jersey
That's exactly what I was seeing along 22 in Green Brook and North Plainfield yesterday, and I'll be filling up on the way home from Mom's today.

Slight change of topic: many stations in New Jersey charge you less if you pay cash than by card. (Remember, in New Jersey there's no self-service so the attendant has to come to your car anyway.) That $3.259 at certain stations is a cash-only price. Does that happen elsewhere?
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Old December 9th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #2383
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That $3.259 at certain stations is a cash-only price. Does that happen elsewhere?
Well I lived in California about eight years ago and that price differential was the case at many stations..two different prices. one for cold green American money. And a higher price for credit purchases. I don't know if that still happens.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #2384
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Prices from Poland, Lower Silesia, Wroclaw:

Average----------Minimum
E95 1,31 eur/l----------1,28 eur/l

Diesel 1,34eur/l----------1,30 eur/l

E98 1,31eur/l----------1,30 eur/l

LPG 0,67eur/dm3----------0,62 eur/dm3
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Old December 10th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #2385
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Slight change of topic: many stations in New Jersey charge you less if you pay cash than by card. (Remember, in New Jersey there's no self-service so the attendant has to come to your car anyway.) That $3.259 at certain stations is a cash-only price. Does that happen elsewhere?
Sometimes in Poland stations offer bargain prices for cash customers. Card fees seem to be high.

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Old December 10th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #2386
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This week in Portugal: E95 - 1,61€/L; Diesel - 1,46€/L.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:43 AM   #2387
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Gas is now $2.999 a gallon for unleaded plus in Cedar Rapids IA.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:04 AM   #2388
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Hooray! I've been waiting for you to say that.

(Still $3.559 here.)
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Old December 14th, 2012, 09:07 PM   #2389
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Hooray! I've been waiting for you to say that.

(Still $3.559 here.)
Yep..even more cheering today as gas had dropped to $2.955 for unleaded plus. A reminder in Iowa regular unleaded is .10 cents a gallon more than unleaded plus..
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Old December 18th, 2012, 05:22 AM   #2390
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The effect of EROEI on total energy input to a human-produced energy system in which the net useful energy demand is fixed in time is studied. Replacement of higher EROEI sources with lower EROEI sources results in an increase in the total energy input. Using published EROEI estimates for existing and new primary energy sources, we estimate that total energy inputs will need to increase by a minimum of 40% (and could increase by as much as 400%) to provide a fixed net useful energy for human societies.

Nice paper: http://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/3/12/2433

And another nice paper: http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/FACUL...nNYAcSci10.pdf




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Old December 18th, 2012, 06:41 AM   #2391
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Mendota Heights, Minnesota -- $2.99 (2.27euros)
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Old December 18th, 2012, 08:04 AM   #2392
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The effect of EROEI on total energy input to a human-produced energy system in which the net useful energy demand is fixed in time is studied. Replacement of higher EROEI sources with lower EROEI sources results in an increase in the total energy input. Using published EROEI estimates for existing and new primary energy sources, we estimate that total energy inputs will need to increase by a minimum of 40% (and could increase by as much as 400%) to provide a fixed net useful energy for human societies.
Say what??
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EROEI is the ratio between the energy you need to invest and energy you get from a system. E.g. drilling for oil cost energy, refining of oil cost energy, etc. Nowadays, for one barrel of energy invested you can get something between 10 - 30 barrels of energy available for further consumption in most cases.

The less energy you get back for the energy you invest, the more total invested energy you need in order to keep the same energy output. I.e. if in the 1930s you would get for one barrel of oil invested 100 barrels of crude oil, nowadays you need to invest someting around 4 to 10 barrels to have the same 100 barrels available for consumption. => the total economy consumption of oil increased from 101 barrels to 110 barrels, without actually changing the total amount of energy available for actuall consumption, the 100 barrels. It means that extracting energy becomes more energy intensive.

If you are really interested, read the paper
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Old December 18th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #2394
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Ahh right... I'm readin' that.

Last night on my way home from work I noticed that gas had dropped two more cents a gallon..It is now $2.939 a gallon for unleaded plus in Cedar Rapids IA.
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Old December 18th, 2012, 11:33 PM   #2395
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Malta is a developed country or advanced economy.

However, most of the Maltese people complain that a huge number of their petrol stations/gas stations/fuel stations look like third-world dump heaps like this:



Hence:
The Maltese car-owners want REAL oil companies to come and set-up shop in Malta (the big time ones like Shell, BP - British Petroleum, ExxonMobil, Total, etc.)
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Old December 19th, 2012, 05:43 AM   #2396
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Cedar Rapids Iowa.. 2.889 for unleaded plus.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 06:10 AM   #2397
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Now you're just gloating!
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Old December 19th, 2012, 06:22 AM   #2398
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LOL, there are some stations still above $3.70 here in CT.

I don't go to them.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 05:45 PM   #2399
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Now you're just gloating!
yep.. But I was out with my wife this morning rembering that when I moved to Iowa in August 2004 gas was only $1.549 a gallon for unleaded plus in Cedar Rapids.

The price is holding at $2.889 a gallon. But I would not be surprised to see a slight bump up in price because a big snowstorm is headed our way tonight and into tomorrow.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #2400
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Poland - UpperSilesia (Zabrze) Lukoil - today:

E95 - PLN 5.40/ € 1.32 L
E98 - PLN 5,67 / € 1.38 L
Diesel - PLN 5,44 / € 1.33 L
Diesel Super - PLN 5,75 / € 1.40 L
LPG - PLN 2.68 / € 0.65 L

exchange rate: 1€ = 4,10 PLN
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