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Old April 30th, 2014, 10:05 PM   #2761
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Unleaded plus here in Cedar Rapids IA is priced from $3.27 to $3.39 a gallon. Regular unleaded and premium unleaded is .10 cents to .50 cents higher a gallon.
And.. diesel is about $3.66 a gallon..I don't know anyone that uses diesel..except truck drivers.
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Old April 30th, 2014, 10:09 PM   #2762
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Apparently most U.S. carmakers don't build diesel cars that can comply with EPA emission standards. Back in the 1990s Chrysler was one of the most popular American cars in the Netherlands and they did have diesel engines. I've read most diesel cars in the U.S. are German imports.
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Old April 30th, 2014, 10:24 PM   #2763
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I sort of associate diesel with Mercedes. And clouds of black smoke.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 01:17 AM   #2764
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Apparently most U.S. carmakers don't build diesel cars that can comply with EPA emission standards. Back in the 1990s Chrysler was one of the most popular American cars in the Netherlands and they did have diesel engines. I've read most diesel cars in the U.S. are German imports.
Those Chrysler diesel engines were actually Italian made and not even available for purchase in the US. The cars themselves were mostly made in Austria also for Europe only (well at least the Voyager and Cherokee)

Pretty much the only diesel that was common in the US was Mercedes E-class and Volkswagen, though circa 1980 there were several offerings due to gas crisis. However very recently there has been a resurgence in interest in diesel cars, VW is selling many, Mercedes has more options, BMW, even Chevrolet Cruze and Jeep now offer diesel. The diesel cars themselves are relatively popular.

It is strange as in heavy-duty pickup truck market in US is like 80% diesel, nobody buys the gas, but in passenger cars, like 90% gasoline.

I remember the old diesel MB, you try and start, in winter, so then you get maybe one cylinder working, baddabahbaddabahbaddabah and keep holding the key, maybe playing with the pedal, maybe you get 2 cylinders, it's shaking like mad, you keep going, maybe three cylinders, you hope the battery has enough charge, maybe four and you let key go but the thing is shaking and you look around, you can't see nothing anymore, surrounded by smoke, finally the fifth cylinder starts to fire and then you let a sigh of relief, but then, choke on smoke :P And that was when you were lucky
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Old May 1st, 2014, 07:28 AM   #2765
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$3.45 U.S. gallon at every station in Eastern Idaho. Up 15 cents from just two weeks ago. California is averaging well over 4.00 per gallon, with 5.00 per gallon at some big city locations.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 11:55 AM   #2766
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Poland - Silesia today:

Euro 95 - PLN 5.24 / € 1.25 liter
Euro 98 - PLN 5,37 / € 1.28 liter
Diesel - PLN 5,16 / € 1.23 liter
LPG - PLN 2.37 / € 0.56 liter

exchange rate: 1€ = 4,20 PLN
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Old May 1st, 2014, 11:58 AM   #2767
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Prices here started to vary a lot. They go from 1,659€/liter for unleaded and 1,559€/liter for diesel to 1,882€/liter for unleaded and 1,759€/liter for diesel.

Methane is stable at 1,01€/kg and LPG is 0,75€/liter.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 07:58 PM   #2768
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Apparently most U.S. carmakers don't build diesel cars that can comply with EPA emission standards. Back in the 1990s Chrysler was one of the most popular American cars in the Netherlands and they did have diesel engines. I've read most diesel cars in the U.S. are German imports.
That is the case.

Although there may be some changes along the way. For instance, Jeep now already sells a 3.0 liter CRD Diesel engine version of their Grand Cherokee for both the USA and Canada. Yup, the same diesel engine version that has been sold in Europe and elsewhere is now available for North American Jeep buyers.



Still, if you ask me though, I would personally still prefer the SRT8 version with 6.4 liter V8 PETROL ENGINE.

It still has more torque than the 3.0 diesel version.......and more horsepower. Faster acceleration, higher top speed, better performance.

So in the case of the Jeep Grand Cherokee:
6.4 liter V8 PETROL > 3.0 V6 Diesel




Same case with say a Jaguar XJ.

5.0 V8 (SUPERCHARGED) PETROL ENGINE > 3.0 DIESEL V6 S ENGINE

And if you can afford these kind of cars, then fuel economy should not even be a matter of concern to anyone who buys these kinds of vehicles.

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Old May 3rd, 2014, 09:47 PM   #2769
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LOL, super American thirsty beast

Polish plates

Curiously I once saw a Chrysler 300 SRT-8 with the same engine, wearing Ontario Canada license plates, driving down probably Pulawska street in Warsaw PL
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 10:18 PM   #2770
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LOL, super American thirsty beast

Polish plates

Curiously I once saw a Chrysler 300 SRT-8 with the same engine, wearing Ontario Canada license plates, driving down probably Pulawska street in Warsaw PL
Yeah, Top Gear Poland did a test of the new Grand Cherokee SRT8 as well

http://www.topgear.com.pl/jeep-grand...ykuly,3385/0,1

And this makes sense.......since Jeep believes that Poland is currently the #1 market in all of Central Europe. Hence why Jeep Poland decided to launch the newly facelifted Grand Cherokee SRT8 ahead of other Central European countries.

Anyways, it seems that aside from European cars, it seems that there is a favorable demand for American branded cars in Poland.

@Kanadzie

You should probably check out Viggen Auto in Warsaw (the #1 official dealer of Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler vehicles in Poland).
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Old May 4th, 2014, 02:31 AM   #2771
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LOL, super American thirsty beast
That's how we roll in the US.. I've never seen a diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee..never.

Eny who... unleaded plus is running from $3.17 to $3.39 a gallon in Cedar Rapids IA..
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Old May 4th, 2014, 02:08 PM   #2772
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I've never seen a diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee
AFAIK:
It was just introduced only a few weeks ago over there at Stateside (as well as in Canada). It might take a few more weeks before you start to see the diesel versions on your local roads there.
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Old May 9th, 2014, 05:08 AM   #2773
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Old May 13th, 2014, 01:06 PM   #2774
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Poland - Silesia today:

Euro 95 - PLN 5.17 / € 1.24 liter
Euro 98 - PLN 5,47 / € 1.31 liter
Diesel - PLN 5,06 / € 1.21 liter
LPG - PLN 2.25 / € 0.54 liter

exchange rate: 1€ = 4,18 PLN
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Old May 13th, 2014, 02:49 PM   #2775
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The friendly neighborhood Sunoco had been increasing in two- to four-cent-a- gallon increments lately, sometimes several times a week, but they went down two cents (to $3.779) yesterday.
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Old May 13th, 2014, 03:13 PM   #2776
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Here in Cedar Rapids our fuel prices have dropped. $3.12 to $3.29 a gallon for unleaded plus a 10% ethanol blend. That is the most used fuel in Iowa and the lowest priced. Other blends regular and super are as much as .40 cents a gallon higher.
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Old May 15th, 2014, 03:16 PM   #2777
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Gas is averaging around $3.40 here in Mississippi's capital , and on a recent trip from South Florida it was about $3.80 ; All for unleaded .
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Old June 22nd, 2014, 10:31 PM   #2778
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No one has posted for a while.. so I shall get the ball rolling..

Last week we took a trip from Cedar Rapids IA to Saginaw MI and return. A total distance of 524 miles(843 Kilometers) one way. Our Camry got about 30 MPG. It should not get that high a mileage(27mpg Max)..but it did.

We paid $3.42 a gallon here in Iowa. In western Michigan gas had jumped up to $3.83 a gallon. By the time we left Saginaw which is in eastern Michigan gas was $3.99 a gallon. As we drove back too Iowa we filled the car in Indiana for $3.89 a gallon. By the time we got back to Cedar Rapids gas was still $3.42 a gallon.

Right now here in Cedar Rapids gas is $3.41 a gallon for unleaded plus a 10% ethanol blend.
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Old June 22nd, 2014, 11:33 PM   #2779
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Currently in Latvia:
1,30 €/l for 95E
1,35 €/l for 98E
1,26 €/l for Diesel
0,50 €/l for LPG
0,05 €/km by train
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Old June 24th, 2014, 08:59 AM   #2780
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Poland - Silesia today:

Euro 95 - PLN 5.40 / € 1.30 liter
Euro 98 - PLN 5,65 / € 1.36 liter
Diesel - PLN 5,20 / € 1.25 liter
LPG - PLN 2.30 / € 0.55 liter

exchange rate: 1€ = 4,16 PLN
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