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Old October 18th, 2014, 10:03 AM   #2901
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Yes, West Wales has expensive petrol, I think its because of high distribution costs and not much competition.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 01:28 PM   #2902
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Well I filled up my car yesterday for $2.71 a gallon for unleaded plus the 10% ethanol blend.

As I stated previously we are going to Illinois today. Be back later.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 02:43 PM   #2903
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How has the price of fuel evolved in your region recently?

For example in Montreal, the price of gasoline has dropped by approximately 10% in last two weeks.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 06:47 PM   #2904
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It has also dropped in the Netherlands, but not as much as elsewhere, as only a third of the price is dependent on the oil price changes. The rest are fixed taxes. Even if oil would cost $ 0 per barrel, gasoline would still cost around € 1.00 per liter ($ 3.785 per gallon) in the Netherlands.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 07:06 PM   #2905
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Similar here, fuel duty is £0.5795 per litre then there is 20% VAT on top of that, so if petrol were given away it would still cost £0.6954 (€0.88).
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Old October 18th, 2014, 09:39 PM   #2906
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It has also dropped in the Netherlands, but not as much as elsewhere, as only a third of the price is dependent on the oil price changes. The rest are fixed taxes. Even if oil would cost $ 0 per barrel, gasoline would still cost around € 1.00 per liter ($ 3.785 per gallon) in the Netherlands.
I think you mean 3.785 euros per gallon. Need to multiply by 1.30ish or whatever the current exchange rate is to get dollars....

(It only struck me when I read Jonesy's new post just now and roughly, very roughly, converted it to $5.00 a gallon and said to myself, that's not that bad, looked back at yours and saw your euro price was a bit higher than the British price.)
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Old October 18th, 2014, 10:00 PM   #2907
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You're right, the tax alone is closer to $ 4.80 per gallon.

The Netherlands has gone too far with the fuel taxes. It's just too high. It's almost as high as Norway, but the average income in Norway is twice that of the Netherlands. Turkey is also quite a story, as they have around € 2 per liter gasoline with *much* lower incomes.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 10:29 PM   #2908
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Well I filled up my car yesterday for $2.71 a gallon for unleaded plus the 10% ethanol blend.

As I stated previously we are going to Illinois today. Be back later.
I made a 7.5 hour round trip into central Illinois. I fueled up my car in Lincoln IL for $3.09 a gallon for regular unleaded. My car got over 32 MPG

As I was driving in Illinois the lowest price I saw was $2.95 a gallon for regular unleaded. Of course gas stations near the interstate freeways are almost always a little higher in price.

Back home here in Cedar Rapids gas is now ranging from $2.72 to $2.85 a gallon for unleaded plus in my area.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 10:53 PM   #2909
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You're right, the tax alone is closer to $ 4.80 per gallon.

The Netherlands has gone too far with the fuel taxes. It's just too high. It's almost as high as Norway, but the average income in Norway is twice that of the Netherlands. Turkey is also quite a story, as they have around € 2 per liter gasoline with *much* lower incomes.
Turkey is crazy, I don't see how normal people can afford to drive anywhere there. Is there much of a black market in petrol snuggled in from cheaper neighbouring countries?
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Old October 18th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #2910
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It has also dropped in the Netherlands, but not as much as elsewhere, as only a third of the price is dependent on the oil price changes. The rest are fixed taxes. Even if oil would cost $ 0 per barrel, gasoline would still cost around € 1.00 per liter ($ 3.785 per gallon) in the Netherlands.
Fuel prices have dropped by €0.10 in the last week around here. Last time I refueled 95 petrol was at €1.409/l, now it is at €1.309. Diesel is lower as usual (€1.249/l), and LPG is at €0.743/l.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #2911
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LPG seems to vary a lot here, maybe because there aren't so many places selling it. I know one filling station where it's £0.649/l, and another one a couple of miles away where it's £0.749/l
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Old October 19th, 2014, 12:40 PM   #2912
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I just refueled at € 1.539 per liter / $ 7.42 per gallon in the Netherlands. That is 21 cents below the 'recommended average price', I've never refueled with such a discount in the Netherlands before. Usually it's only 12-13 cents max.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 01:52 PM   #2913
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Yesterday I filled up E10 for 1.469€/l ($7.1/gallon). Down at the Rhine was it even 2-3 cents cheaper. t's the lowest price since February.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 02:34 PM   #2914
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Yesterday I filled up E10 for 1.469€/l ($7.1/gallon). Down at the Rhine was it even 2-3 cents cheaper. t's the lowest price since February.
95 costs as cheapest 1,40€ now in Sweden. The price is much lower now. It used to be close to 1,60€.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 02:35 PM   #2915
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Cheapest station ever, I haven't seen those prices for more than 4/5 years.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:23 PM   #2916
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Back home here in Cedar Rapids gas is now ranging from $2.72 to $2.85 a gallon for unleaded plus in my area.
That $2.72 a gallon was a gimmick price special for that particular station for Friday and Saturday. Right now gas is averaging from $2.89 down to $2.79 for unleaded plus a 10% Ethanol blend.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:37 PM   #2917
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I paid yesterday PB95 (eurosuper) 5,15PLN/l ~1,22€
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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:54 PM   #2918
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Diesel is €1.115 in Luxembourg, from €1.18 at the cheapest places in France, and from about €1.23 in Belgium, with a drop in Belgium later in the week

http://carbu.vroom.be searches all 3 of these countries

Meanwhile in the UK I read one website where we keep being told there is about to be a price war at some supermarkets. The trouble is all the supermarkets do their press releases about price drops on the same day. Diesel is now £1.267 (€1.60) at the cheapest places.

Years ago when oil was falling to about $10 a barrel one government here took advantage and started increasing duty per litre by 3 or 4 pence each year. Then they had the cheek to accuse the next government of stealthy taxation. The margin between diesel price here and in our neighbours seems to carry on increasing.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 05:05 PM   #2919
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Diesel and petrol have exactly the same tax in the UK, in other European countries diesel seems to be taxed at a lower rate.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 05:19 PM   #2920
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Yes, diesel in the Netherlands is approximately € 0.30 per liter cheaper than petrol due to tax differences. However, very few private car owners use diesel due to the very high road tax on diesel (up to 3 times the rate of a similar petrol car). I've read that only about 15% of the cars in the Netherlands drive on diesel despite the lower fuel price and better mileage.

I've driven a diesel car for six years, and the fuel cost per kilometer is about half that of petrol. However, the high road tax led me to decide to buy a fuel-efficient petrol car. Now I pay € 25 road tax per month instead of € 70. And that € 70 was already a discounted rate because it was a commercial car-based van. Small diesel cars often cost up to € 100 per month in road tax in the Netherlands.
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