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Old November 10th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #301
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California has been wanting vehicle emissions to drop 30 percent until 2016, but the Bush administration opposes that. In this article it's said that Obama will reverse that decision. Since the auto industry is going bankrupt anyway, here's their chance to jump on the Change bandwagon and make more environmentally friendly automobiles.

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Old November 10th, 2008, 04:43 AM   #302
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I have to agree, if they want to bail out Detroit, then they need to make more fuel efficient vehicles. If they want the money badly, then there needs to be plenty of strings attached.
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Old November 10th, 2008, 05:21 AM   #303
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These low fuel prices scare the crap out of me. Seeing how they fall, it feels like something huge is going to happen. I would prefer a healthy economy with $2/litre any time over what we have now...
In the current situation, there is no way that we (US) would have a healthy economy with gas prices that high. We're too addicted to cheap oil.
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Old November 10th, 2008, 09:26 AM   #304
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Yeah, that's one of America's biggest problems Time to get some public transport going.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 06:02 AM   #305
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Yeah, that's one of America's biggest problems Time to get some public transport going.
Not just public transportation, REAL public transportation. Look at Vancouver's Translink, you can go all the way out to the border in White Rock on the bus system there!
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Old November 12th, 2008, 03:20 PM   #306
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In the US public transport inside the cities often works out quite well. The problem is the suburbian area. In Boston, for example, it's very easy to get around with the subway. Some lines are quite old and need to be redone, but it works. However, when going to the suburbian area, problems occur. A suburb town like Lexington, has a bus connection with Boston. That's fine, you'd probably say, but the bus runs at irregular times (like very 40 minutes), which is really confusing, so people still prefer to take the car. I also gave examples of Atlanta and Dayton/Cincinnati before in other threads. Obama can hopefully bring change
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Old November 12th, 2008, 04:06 PM   #307
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There's a little more needed in America than adding public transport alone. The build-up environment of detached homes on large lots are not favorable for public transport to succeed.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #308
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gas price in USA, NJ. per 1 American gallon



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Old November 12th, 2008, 04:31 PM   #309
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Loenersloot's gas price (Euro 95) was at €1,245/L today
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Old November 15th, 2008, 01:16 AM   #310
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Lucky you ! Here in Connecticut it is $2.59 and next door in Massachusetts, $2.40
Update; today( Nov 14 ) in CT its now $2.10 a US Gallon. Thats $0.55 a liter.
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Old November 15th, 2008, 02:34 AM   #311
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Update; today( Nov 14 ) in CT its now $2.10 a US Gallon. Thats $0.55 a liter.
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Old November 15th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #312
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Loenersloot's gas price dropped to €1,24/L
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Old November 16th, 2008, 05:17 PM   #313
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Unmanned local gas station today at the N35 highway just south of Zwolle:
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Strangely enough, the next gas station discounted 8 cents on Diesel but had a lower price than this one, which discounts 11 cents.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 06:46 PM   #314
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10.64 SEK in the Stockholm metro; that's 1.065 euros.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 06:58 PM   #315
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In Madrid surrounding area Euro 95 is around 0,94€/L.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 07:29 PM   #316
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what is payment method at unmanned stations? only credit cards or something else is possible too?
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Creditcards and Dutch bank cards with PIN codes. I use it all the time since they discount like 11 cents. (as does the one shown in my picture)
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And cash, of course?
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Old November 16th, 2008, 08:15 PM   #319
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Not at the unmanned automated stations.

It works as follows:

You put your credit/bankcard into the card reader and pull it out immediatly again. Then you enter your PIN and then select the fuel you want (you can usually choose Euro 95, Euro 98, Diesel and sometimes Vpower Diesel). Then the machine will ask if you care for a receipt. The next thing you do is gas up your vehicle and you're done.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #320
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The three unmanned gas stations I've used in Switzerland accepted (also) cash. A couple of months ago opened the first unmanned gas station in Slovenia (at least I think it's the first), 2 km away from me, fuel is cheaper, but I always forget to use it, I must see how it's there (not to mention cheaper fuel so close).
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