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Old February 10th, 2015, 05:36 PM   #3321
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Old February 10th, 2015, 05:42 PM   #3322
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To be fair to Americans other than cars what other transport doo they have? Outside of major cities Iv always got the impression that the U.S. Transport infrastructure is rather terrible.
I just checked the county government website for Adams County, Pennsylvania, where Gettysburg is. Besides a trolley service in and around Gettysburg that seems meant mostly for tourists, there's a commuter bus to Harrisburg, the state capital, about 30 miles away, and a van for seniors....

http://www.rabbittransit.org/Schedul...alTransit.aspx

http://acofa.org/transportation.htm
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Old February 10th, 2015, 06:43 PM   #3323
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To be fair to Americans other than cars what other transport doo they have? Outside of major cities Iv always got the impression that the U.S. Transport infrastructure is rather terrible.
US compared to Europe;



For intercity travel in the US,which is a vast country, air travel is preferred. Amtrak passenger train travel is abysmal. It just is.

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The American culture of the gas guzzler is ridiculous.
Yep we'd better put away of millions upon millions of pick-up trucks...



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And now back on topic....We had to go out this morning and I did notice a couple of stations were the price of unleaded regular has settled out for today at $2.07 a gallon for unleaded plus now a 10% ethanol blend in Iowa.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 06:50 PM   #3324
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....Amtrak passenger train travel is abysmal. It just is.
Except in the Northeast, where it's good but expensive.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 06:58 PM   #3325
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Except in the Northeast, where it's good but expensive.
Agreed.. train travel in the Northeast US is excellent.

As most of you know diesel is used in the US but mostly in big trucks and pick up trucks. Very few passenger cars running on diesel.

Right now in my area diesel fuel is running from about $2.45 to $2.60 a gallon. I wonder will that price will spike up?
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Old February 10th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #3326
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What's the typical fuel consumption on one of those giant pick-up trucks?
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Old February 10th, 2015, 09:37 PM   #3327
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No idea; I wouldn't be caught dead driving one of those.

But that reminds me of a Top Gear a couple of years ago...Jeremy was driving a supercar...may be the episode where he drove from Wembley to a Champion's League match in Milan while the other two went by train. At one point they stopped at a gas station. He was complaining about how often he needed to fill up, while I was stunned at the 87 euros (I still remember that number) showing on the pump.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #3328
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What's the typical fuel consumption on one of those giant pick-up trucks?
Probably in the 15 - 20 miles per gallon range. The manufacturer fuel mileage is usually unrealistic.

That's 8.5 km / L, or 12 L / 100 km.
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No idea; I wouldn't be caught dead driving one of those.

But that reminds me of a Top Gear a couple of years ago...Jeremy was driving a supercar...may be the episode where he drove from Wembley to a Champion's League match in Milan while the other two went by train. At one point they stopped at a gas station. He was complaining about how often he needed to fill up, while I was stunned at the 87 euros (I still remember that number) showing on the pump.
I've filled up for £80 ($125) before now, 60l of diesel at £1.33 per litre.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 09:51 PM   #3330
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Probably in the 15 - 20 miles per gallon range. The manufacturer fuel mileage is usually unrealistic.

That's 8.5 km / L, or 12 L / 100 km.
So basically they are probably paying as much per mile for fuel as some European drivers despite fuel being so cheap over there!?
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Old February 10th, 2015, 09:55 PM   #3331
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People who are driving that sort of thing are; I'm getting more than 300 miles for less than $20 at current prices. (At least when I buy in New Jersey.)
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Old February 11th, 2015, 05:45 AM   #3332
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No idea; I wouldn't be caught dead driving one of those.
Me either. It is a personal choice..I have a Camry that gets about 25mpg in the city and as much as 32MPG on the open road.

Oh yea on the way to work I noticed several stations had dropped their prices back to...$1.99 and $1.97 a gallon. One station is back to $1.93..Most others are still at $2.09.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 06:02 AM   #3333
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R$ 3.35 $ 1,19 / liter

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" Dear customers, gasoline prices has risen because of tax, complain to Dilma( president )"

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Old February 11th, 2015, 06:09 AM   #3334
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Must be hard for you Americans to pay $2 a gallon.....
Not our fault that your government puts so much taxes on fuel. You can always protest this to your politicians.

$2 a week more to fill up is nothing. The recent rise isn't a big deal at all.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 07:00 AM   #3335
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Probably in the 15 - 20 miles per gallon range. The manufacturer fuel mileage is usually unrealistic.

That's 8.5 km / L, or 12 L / 100 km.
15 L/100km is a good number for real life with pickup truck
It's really good... in 90's was more like 17 L/100km

The SUV I am driving now (Ford Explorer 2010) is averaging 15,5 L / 100 km with my driving here on the Toronto area highways

Anyway in Canada I remember tanking a simple, small Ford Edge. I paid $101 Canadian to tank it in around 2012... in US dollars about the same thing back then It didn't take that much fuel, but the price was $1.30 a litre. I was amused as I had driven the car about 1200 km from the south and was tanking it at a gas station near the factory the car was made originally

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\He was complaining about how often he needed to fill up, while I was stunned at the 87 euros (I still remember that number) showing on the pump.
Ha, when I was in Germany last, price was running around 1.65 EUR per litre. For 87 euros I couldn't even fill my little 4-cylinder convertible (68 litre tank)
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Old February 11th, 2015, 11:43 AM   #3336
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I always thought that in countries where fuel is really cheap, average cars have lower mpg.

My car, in Italy, does 7 L/100km in the worst of the situations, meaning in urban use. Outside cities can reach up to 4 L/100km.

My bike is steady on 4-5 L/100km.

My vespa does 1.8-2 L/100km.
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95 and Diesel (both were the same price today)
13,04 kr/liter
1,38 €/liter
$5.90/gallon

E85
9,29 kr/liter
0,98 €/liter
$4.21/gallon
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Old February 13th, 2015, 04:46 PM   #3338
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$1.99/gallon when I was in New Jersey
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Old February 13th, 2015, 08:51 PM   #3339
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I always thought that in countries where fuel is really cheap, average cars have lower mpg.
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Nope.. in the USA the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) regulates and mandates a minimum Miles per gallon each class of vehicle must maintain.

Each year the requirements get more stringent. Manufactures face fines if they don't meet the EPA requirements for fuel mileage.

EPA Fuel Economy Regulations and Standards

Our fuel is hovering around $2.09 a gallon for regular unleaded. Sam's Club has the lowest price for gas in our area...$1.93 a gallon. Sam's Club requires a yearly membership.
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Does that apply to cars only? Is there a table that shows which model or type is each category?
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