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Old October 2nd, 2015, 01:14 PM   #3521
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Yesterday at an unmanned station in Tartu (€ per litre):
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 02:40 PM   #3522
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Funny, the Dutch word 'automaat' means the same.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 02:52 PM   #3523
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Interesting. the only fully unmanned automated gas stations I've ever seen in the US are for commercial vehicles that have accounts at those stations. Those stations are fenced off and require a code for entry.

Last night I noticed fuel had creep up to $2.22 a gallon for unleaded plus a 10% Ethanol blend in our area. About a week ago it was at $2.07 a gallon.
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Old October 3rd, 2015, 08:41 PM   #3524
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same. But, ever get stuck at 02:00 in the morning without gas in the middle of nowhere? It's so annoying.
But I wonder why they can't just let the "pay at pump" still function after the gas station closed for the night...
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Old October 3rd, 2015, 11:08 PM   #3525
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I know when I lived in San Diego CA gas could be purchased 24/7/365 at many stations. Here in Cedar Rapids Iowa..not so true.
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Old October 4th, 2015, 02:17 AM   #3526
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Oh yeah, in a big city, I've never had a problem, plus usually always able to get home
But on a roadtrip, seeing the needle go down, Interstate sign for gas, then you go and the lights are dark it's a bit "FUUU" reaction
Mind you I've never actually had a real problem (was always able to get gas eventually...)

as for gas prices the drop in Canadian dollar vs. the US has been frustrating. I tanked in the morning Thursday at 97,4 cents Canadian near Elfrida, ON (what a name...). I started my car on leaving and the changed the sign to $1,004...
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Old October 4th, 2015, 02:21 AM   #3527
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That's the most strange thing when I'm leaving Poland for a while, how it's possible to close gas station I think more than 99,00 % stations here are open 24/7/365.
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Old October 4th, 2015, 03:32 AM   #3528
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That's the most strange thing when I'm leaving Poland for a while, how it's possible to close gas station I think more than 99,00 % stations here are open 24/7/365.
Here in Iowa, population 3,100,000 and very rural,.. these towns start shutting down retail at 10pm or earlier.. except Wal-Mart and Target are opened all the time.
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Old October 4th, 2015, 10:49 AM   #3529
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In the Netherlands most gas stations along motorways are open 24/7, though some are closed in less busy areas at night. Gas stations along secondary roads almost always close for the night, but there aren't as much of them remaining, as most fuel stations along secondary roads are now unmanned with pay-at-the-pump terminals. And a handsome discount.
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Old October 4th, 2015, 02:05 PM   #3530
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Three of the gas stations near my place have converted from serviced (with a convenience store where you pay inside) to fully automated.

I don't have an exact tally but I'd say around 50% of gas stations within my city that had convenience stores have now closed.

I wonder if the law regarding employment of minors on fuel-related business changed. Minimum wage in Netherlands is staggered up to age 23 and many business rely on older teens to work on their current cost structure.

Now that virtually everyone has at least a debit card, it makes really no sense not to save money by going to an automated station. You can always save € 0,06/liter at the least (savings of € 0,10/l not uncommon either).
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Old October 4th, 2015, 03:37 PM   #3531
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Neste Oil today, in Riga.

E95 - 1.059/l EUR
E98 - 1.099/l EUR
LPG - 0.510/l EUR
Diesel - 0.989/l EUR
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Old October 4th, 2015, 06:50 PM   #3532
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Three of the gas stations near my place have converted from serviced (with a convenience store where you pay inside) to fully automated.

I don't have an exact tally but I'd say around 50% of gas stations within my city that had convenience stores have now closed.

I wonder if the law regarding employment of minors on fuel-related business changed. Minimum wage in Netherlands is staggered up to age 23 and many business rely on older teens to work on their current cost structure.

Now that virtually everyone has at least a debit card, it makes really no sense not to save money by going to an automated station. You can always save € 0,06/liter at the least (savings of € 0,10/l not uncommon either).
It is really curious the cost savings
in the US and Canada it is common (at independent gas stations) to pay MORE to use a credit card at pump then paying cash to the cashier
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Old October 4th, 2015, 06:56 PM   #3533
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It is really curious the cost savings
in the US and Canada it is common (at independent gas stations) to pay MORE to use a credit card at pump then paying cash to the cashier
Netherlands makes a great effort to go cashless. I participated in an experiment (with many other people), I withdrew € 150 and then nothing more for 2 whole years (2013-14), going out of the way to pay everything with cards that was possible to and actively avoid using cash. I still had almost € 50 left at the end of the experiment.

Becuase Netherlands use PIN instead of signature only, fraud rates are much lower than in US (I read something like 80% lower), so fees charged to merchants are also lower.

Convenience stores in Netherlands, at least the urban ones, are nowhere as big as American ones. They have some horribly overpriced sandwiches, candies, beverages and snacks, and a couple car supplies.
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Old October 5th, 2015, 01:00 AM   #3534
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It is really curious the cost savings
in the US and Canada it is common (at independent gas stations) to pay MORE to use a credit card at pump then paying cash to the cashier
the reason it cost more to use a credit charge because credit card companies charge for their use.

I pay cash.
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Old October 5th, 2015, 01:53 AM   #3535
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95 and Diesel: 12,29 kr/liter | 1,31 €/liter | $5.56/gallon
E85: 9,96 kr/liter | 1,06 €/liter | $4.50/gallon
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Old October 5th, 2015, 06:24 AM   #3536
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Paid $2.33/gallon today. Prices have fallen quite a bit in the last month. With the summer over, unless there's a giant shock, I think prices will continue to fall.

That's about €0.55/liter if my conversions are right.
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Old October 5th, 2015, 12:28 PM   #3537
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Turkey , Bodrum area,

Average :

E95 : 4.55 try/l or 1.35 eur/ l or 1.53 usd/l
Diesel: 3.96 try/l or 1.18 eur/l or 1.33 usd/l
LPG: 2.15 try/l or 0.64 eur/l or 0.72 usd/l

1 EUR = 3.36 TRY and 1 USD=2.98 TRY
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Old October 5th, 2015, 01:56 PM   #3538
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Warsaw, Poland.

Prices per liter, Auchan:
E95: 4,35 PLN > 1,02 EUR
E98: 4,69 PLN > 1,10 EUR
Diesel: 3,95 PLN > 0.93 EUR
LPG: 1,66 PLN > 0,39 EUR

1 EUR = 4,25 PLN
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Old October 6th, 2015, 02:39 PM   #3539
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Last night I noticed fuel had creep up to $2.22 a gallon for unleaded plus a 10% Ethanol blend in our area. About a week ago it was at $2.07 a gallon.
Yesterday fuel spiked up to $2.35 a gallon..yikes..No reason was given by the robber barons of the big oil companies..
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Old October 7th, 2015, 03:08 AM   #3540
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I needed gas yesterday so was going up and down a road
In the city gas has been around $1,009 CAD/L for a while
One station showed 96,9 cents! Across street from $1,009.
So I pull up, but there is construction on the road and barrels blocking the entrance... so I go the second one... "police tape do not cross" between the barrels blocking entrance... like come on :P
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