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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:50 PM   #81
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The fuel tax here is 59.3 cents/gallon (~€0.113/liter)
It's ten times that in the Netherlands ( €1 tax per liter or $ 5.3 per gallon)
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:53 PM   #82
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I don't believe that I would be able to afford driving there, lol.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:57 PM   #83
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You get used to it, you make other budget decisions, like go less shopping or fewer times out to dinner. People don't really drive less here. The first thing people cut back into are groceries and recreational drives.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:29 PM   #84
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Rail system and other public transportation is much more developed in Europe (yes, including the Netherlands), so people have more choices as to which transport will take them to work.

Although in America we pay twice less for petrol, I save $300/month on average since I started using bus for everyday commute. In Sacramento, I had to drive ~80-100 km on any given day to get to/from university, and I did not have any other choice. Thus, I had to pump every 4 days. After moving to Pullman, I drive mostly to do shopping, and I pump once a month. Now, consider we have European fuel prices and multiply my savings by 1.5 (Europeans drive shorter distances).
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:31 PM   #85
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Rail system and other public transportation is much more developed in Europe (yes, including the Netherlands), so people have more choices as to which transport will take them to work.
We can use our bicycles. The percentage of people NOT using public transportation for commuting in the Netherlands is the same as in the United States (90%).
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 11:49 PM   #86
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Yeah, here is an interesting article on cycling in the Netherlands: High petrol prices see bikes gain ground in the Netherlands
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 07:55 AM   #87
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You get used to it, you make other budget decisions, like go less shopping or fewer times out to dinner. People don't really drive less here. The first thing people cut back into are groceries and recreational drives.
Except that many Americans are in bad debt and barley surviving.
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Yeah, here is an interesting article on cycling in the Netherlands: High petrol prices see bikes gain ground in the Netherlands
I use my bike for my everyday commute to high school, which is 14.5 kms. When rainy (like now) I use the bus, but it doesn't run that often, so I still prefer the bike
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 10:29 AM   #89
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 11:36 AM   #90
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Except that many Americans are in bad debt and barley surviving.
I think nearly all Dutchmen are in debt too. You know.. for their car, mortgage etc. However, we still manage to survive yet as far as I know nearly all taxes are higher in Europe.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 11:38 AM   #91
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Surviving for now.
Btw. I'm debt free and thankful for it.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 11:42 AM   #92
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Yeah, here is an interesting article on cycling in the Netherlands: High petrol prices see bikes gain ground in the Netherlands
I doubt if it is really because of the high petrol prices. In 2006, the petrol prices weren't as high as they now are, and we usually don't drive gas-guzzling cars but fuel economic cars. Besides that, the economy was better in 2006. Worthy buys are always delayed when the economy is worse.

Car sales dropped too because of the bad economy, not necessarily because of the high fuel prices, at least that's how it's reported here. Besides that, there was the issue of the new license plates coming up so people waited to buy a new car until the new plates arrived, making them more worthy when they sell them again in a few years.

Remember we had high fuel prices for many years, not just the last 2 years, gas was in the 5 - 6 dollar a gallon range many years ago, while traffic jams increased year-in-year-out with 10% annually. People just keep going to work.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 12:37 PM   #93
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I don't believe that I would be able to afford driving there, lol.
We in Europe have cars which use 7l/100km not 25l/100km like in the USA.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 03:40 PM   #94
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In Republic of Srpska, eurodiesel at OMV gas stations is 2,26 KM per liter or ~1,15 EUR.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 06:23 PM   #95
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In Republic of Srpska, eurodiesel at OMV gas stations is 2,26 KM per liter or ~1,15 EUR.
isn't that price at whole BIH?
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No. Gas is usually more expensive in FBiH. (Gas taxes are under Republic of Srpska's authority.)
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We in Europe have cars which use 7l/100km not 25l/100km like in the USA.
Yeah, the types of cars that we have here help a lot -- there is more to fuel economy than just outright gas price.

In Sweden at least, something like half of all Stockholmers use our excellent public transportation to get around (no reason no to) and so nobody has to cut down on eating out and such just because of rising gas prices.
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today ... 50m away from german boarder, in West-Austria/Vorarlberg

95 oct - exactly 1,20€ ... it´s ok .. specially for the Germans
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Old October 6th, 2008, 12:02 PM   #100
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Buffalo now has the highest gas prices in the Northeast US!

Even higher than New York City!

About $0.98/liter ($3.71/gal) or about €0.72...even though the price of gas is plummeting nationwide, it's crawling down here.
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