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Old April 22nd, 2011, 06:08 PM   #1501
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1 GA = 4,54609 L
Those are imperial gallons, they're almost never used. The United States uses the liquid gallon. (3.79 L)
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 06:50 PM   #1502
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I am just old enough to remember, in my childhood as a map geek, road maps of Canada showing a U.S.-to-Imperial gallon conversion. This would be before Canada officially went metric, which I believe was in 1975.
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 06:53 PM   #1503
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It can be a bit confusing that the United States uses the imperial system, but does not use the imperial gallon. It is used in Britain, but nearly all fuel volumes are in liters (litres actually).
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 06:58 PM   #1504
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It can be a bit confusing that the United States uses the imperial system, but does not use the imperial gallon. It is used in Britain, but nearly all fuel volumes are in liters (litres actually).
I've heard the Top Gear guys talk about petrol costing X pounds per gallon, so I wonder if the public - at least people of a certain age - still converts the official (metric) measures to the ones they grew up with. Similarly, on past trips to Canada (although at this point, I may be talking 20 years ago....) I've seen some TV stations give weather forecasts in both metric and Fahrenheit. The web sites of Canada's cable weather channel (and the U.S. one, I think) let you choose which system you see temperatures and such in. But you'll never see metric on the air in the U.S.
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 08:20 PM   #1505
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ARGENTINA

1 liter= 4,20$(pesos)

1U$D=4,10+-pesos
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 08:30 PM   #1506
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But you'll never see metric on the air in the U.S.
which is shameful, but Americans are proud of that
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 08:35 PM   #1507
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which is shameful, but Americans are proud of that
Why is it "shameful"? (Or something to be proud of?) What's wrong with having our own measurement system (which, in the domain of temperatures, is actually more precise than metric....)?

[Cue yet another stupid argument about how different countries doing things differently is a problem....]
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 12:13 AM   #1508
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1 US Gallon = 3.79 liters, not 4.55. This is the British Gallon
ah ok: tyvm
so, 1.53 €uro / L ==> 5.79 €uro / GA....or 8.12 USD / GA
But of course European cars use less gazoline than American ones.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 01:54 AM   #1509
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Why is it "shameful"? (Or something to be What's wrong with having our own measurement system (which, in the domain of temperatures, is actually more precise than metric....)?
This system is not American! It's English and it's super super old. You have no idea how much money companies lose every year because of this. America will eventually convert to metric sooner or later. It's inevitable
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 02:30 AM   #1510
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Currently official €1,747/liter =~$9,56/gallon for euro95
In the Netherlands
That must be eye watering. Are people giving-up their cars with prices that high?

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Old April 23rd, 2011, 11:37 AM   #1511
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That must be eye watering. Are people giving-up their cars with prices that high?
Of course not. In fact, traffic volumes are higher than ever. Americans often think it's not affordable to drive if gas hits $ 6 per gallon, but if you look at Europe you'll see automobile usage is only some 6 percentage points lower than the U.S. while we have had $ 6 - 10 gas for over a decade.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 05:00 PM   #1512
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Of course not. In fact, traffic volumes are higher than ever. Americans often think it's not affordable to drive if gas hits $ 6 per gallon, but if you look at Europe you'll see automobile usage is only some 6 percentage points lower than the U.S. while we have had $ 6 - 10 gas for over a decade.
Chris, fuel prices are not in a vacuum. It's not just a question of what fuel costs but what else your budget is. If you're used to spending $100 a month on gas and are suddenly paying $200, that may - depending how much extra income you have - make a difference to you. There was a story I still remember in the New York Times during the last episode of this in 2008 about people in rural areas giving up jobs they could no longer afford to get to. I recently heard an interesting statistic: at $3.75 a gallon, people start giving up things like movies and dinners out (so those segments of the economy suffer); at $4.00 a gallon, they start giving up driving.

And I get enough news from Europe to know that not everyone there is taking this as calmly as you are.
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Price shock versus gradual price increases.

In Europe people may not like it either but there is a difference between "not taking it calmly" and "giving up driving massively".
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 05:39 PM   #1514
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In Europe people may not like it either but there is a difference between "not taking it calmly" and "giving up driving massively".
Plus, in most of Europe you have plenty of other options that are pretty developed and easy to use: public transport, trains, buses etc.
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Old April 23rd, 2011, 05:41 PM   #1515
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Price shock versus gradual price increases.

In Europe people may not like it either but there is a difference between "not taking it calmly" and "giving up driving massively".
You're right, obviously. But was "massive" part of the question you were responding to? I don't read it that way.
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(which, in the domain of temperatures, is actually more precise than metric....)
Oh boy...

In other news, E95 costs €1.224 in Estonia ($6.75 per gallon). Everybody's grumbling but the roads are jam packed.
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Oh boy...

In other news, E95 costs €1.224 in Estonia ($6.75 per gallon). Everybody's grumbling but the roads are jam packed.
Re temperatures: I just meant that one degree celsius is bigger, if that's the right word, than one degree Fahrenheit. Since most weather forecasts don't give temperatures in decimals, that means Fahrenheit figures are indeed a bit more precise.
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This system is not American! It's English and it's super super old. You have no idea how much money companies lose every year because of this. America will eventually convert to metric sooner or later. It's inevitable
We've already tried it (in the '70s). It didn't take. And don't forget about the cost of converting signs.
As for the system's being "English," I don't see that that's relevant.

EDIT: Before someone yells at me about consecutive posts, I tried merging this one into the preceding one and can't get the second quote (Botev's) to show up right. If anyone wants to give a lesson. :-)
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Old April 24th, 2011, 12:18 AM   #1519
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Here in Miami, fuel prices did not go up this Saturday. This makes over two weeks of no real increases. I don't think they will really get to "5 dollars a gallon by summer", in fact I think they will soon start falling.
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Old April 24th, 2011, 01:06 AM   #1520
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Closest gas station to my house was $4.23 (€0.766/l).

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Re temperatures: I just meant that one degree celsius is bigger, if that's the right word, than one degree Fahrenheit. Since most weather forecasts don't give temperatures in decimals, that means Fahrenheit figures are indeed a bit more precise.
Well, in Celsius...0 is freezing and 100 is boiling...while in Fahrenheit, it's 32 and 212 respectively.
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