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Old January 5th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #1781
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Today, Budapest, Hungary:

Euro95: 411.9 Ft/l (€ 1,28/l; $6.22/gallon)
Diesel: 435.9 Ft/l (€ 1.35/l; $6.57/gallon)
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Old January 5th, 2012, 08:37 PM   #1782
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If you will ever come to Romania I suggest not to fuel up from gas stations where the price is signicantly lower than in other places. There might be a problem with the fuel quality (some years ago they found gas station owners adding water to the petrol).
This happens not only in Romania. A few years ago my father's car engine was damaged by bad fuel sold in Sardinia. And it wasn't cheaper than regular fuel...
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Old January 5th, 2012, 08:58 PM   #1783
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This happens not only in Romania. A few years ago my father's car engine was damaged by bad fuel sold in Sardinia. And it wasn't cheaper than regular fuel...
This is the reason why I only buy fuel from the top brands gas stations in Romania... I know that's a little bit more expensive but at least I've never had any problems.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #1784
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This is the reason why I only buy fuel from the top brands gas stations in Romania... I know that's a little bit more expensive but at least I've never had any problems.
Well in Poland is little bit different. Some friend of mine fill his tank on BP with disel and has some huge problems after that. But generally, it's recommended to buy on brand station's.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #1785
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These days in France, there's been quite a bit of such cases, especially when filling on hypermarket stations. Near Dijon last October, & one I heard yesterday on TV ...

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The first time since many weeks Diesel is not more expensive than Super.



Recently read in Austrian news. Italians tend to cross the border to fill up their cars with gas.

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http://tirol.orf.at/news/stories/2513203/
WOW ! I thought refuelling in Austria was much more expensive ! It appears to be less expensive not only than France & Germany but also than ... Slovakia ! Looks like switching from the national currency to Euro has made a lot of harm to Slovakia ...
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Old January 6th, 2012, 12:10 AM   #1786
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In Macedonia price's are;

Euro 95 77,5 den = 1,262 € / l
Euro 98 79,5 den = 1,295 € / l
Disel ---- 70 den = 1,140 €/ l
LPG--------43 den = 0,700 €/ l


Very surprising is fact, that price's are almost same on every station +/- 1-2 cent €. Reason may be price fixing by state energy commission.
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Old January 7th, 2012, 12:26 AM   #1787
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In Macedonia price's are;

Euro 95 77,5 den = 1,262 € / l
Euro 98 79,5 den = 1,295 € / l
Disel ---- 70 den = 1,140 €/ l
LPG--------43 den = 0,700 €/ l


Very surprising is fact, that price's are almost same on every station +/- 1-2 cent €. Reason may be price fixing by state energy commission.
A bit like a couple of years ago (back in 2005) in Ukraine ! I didn't pay attention to that last year ...
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Old January 7th, 2012, 04:10 AM   #1788
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Ireland:

Petrol (Unleaded): €1.53
Diesel: €1.52
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Old January 7th, 2012, 05:49 AM   #1789
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Did the price of oil just go up a lot in the last two days? A station near my house went from $3.53 to $3.71 in two days.

I know this is small compared to Europe but I don't want to see $4 again.
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Old January 7th, 2012, 01:16 PM   #1790
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A bit like a couple of years ago (back in 2005) in Ukraine ...
Since we talk about Ukriane this are price:

Petrol 95 10.30 uah =1,01 € / l
Disel --- -9,70 uah = 0,95 €/ l
LPG--------6,3 uah = 0,62 €/ l
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Old January 7th, 2012, 01:47 PM   #1791
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Fuel prices in the Netherlands went up in recent days.

Euro 95: € 1.747
Euro 98: € 1.804
Diesel: € 1.469
LPG: € 0.798
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Old January 7th, 2012, 05:25 PM   #1792
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Did the price of oil just go up a lot in the last two days? A station near my house went from $3.53 to $3.71 in two days.

I know this is small compared to Europe but I don't want to see $4 again.
The friendly neighborhood Sunoco station ( http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll...12,339.15,,0,0 ) jumped from $3.339 to $3.389 overnight New Year's Eve/New Year's Day. Since it had been inching down slowly over recent weeks, I thought maybe there'd been an increase in the gas tax effective January 1. But I was in the suburbs both New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, in some of the same areas both times, and didn't see any change, so if there was a tax increase it was only in the city. (I have no idea if the city can do that.) It's gone up another cent during the week.

An 18-cent jump at once seems like an awful lot; is it only that one station? Could Connecticut have increased taxes? And I don't think changes in the price of crude show up at the pump right away. Maybe the station owner's betting on tension in the Persian Gulf.

I'm going to my parents' in New Jersey later and will update this post if the Sunoco price has changed or anything has happened up there - Christmas week it was running around $3.059 in New Jersey.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 01:00 AM   #1793
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I think the tax went up a little bit after the sales tax which is added to it generally went up last year but it's effects must have been shown months ago.

It's perhaps greed and competition.
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The U.S. state gas tax needs to double or triple to provide enough funding for the mobility needs. No gas tax raise means either more and more traffic congestion or toll roads.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 02:59 PM   #1795
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Fuel prices in the Netherlands went up in recent days.

Euro 95: € 1.747
Euro 98: € 1.804
Diesel: € 1.469
LPG: € 0.798
Your prices are worse than in Italy. I would have to pay €30 more than Austria per refueling Is there still between the prices of Euro 95 and Euro 98? In Austria they are always the same. Many gas stations don't even offer regular gas.

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Old January 9th, 2012, 03:10 PM   #1796
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The "benzin" sold in German-speaking countries equaled euro 92 in the Netherlands, they haven't sold that for years here. Euro 95 would be "super" in Germany. I stick to diesel though. Not only is it less expensive, the consumption is also significantly lower, hence my fuel cost is only € 0.06 per km. Annual road tax is higher for diesel-powered vehicles in the Netherlands. I pay € 720 per year, but that's just because I drive a commercial van. If I had a VW Golf diesel it would be closer to € 1300 per year.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #1797
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Diesel is around £0.075 / €0.09 a litre more than 95 here so the cost benefit is much less than other countries where diesel is cheaper than petrol.

Still diesel cars were over 50% of new car sales for the first time in 2011.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 04:10 PM   #1798
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That tax of you is horrible. It is not only fuel that is significantly cheaper here but insurance and taxes as well.
I filled Euro95 for 405 Ft/liter yesterday, it's €1.29.
For mandatory third-party insurance (it is the proper English expression?) I pay 21,400 forint (€ 68) per year and from 2012 on there's a 30% additional tax so it's altogether 27,900 forint (€ 89).
For tax I pay around 12,000 forint (~€ 40) yearly, the proper declaration for this year hasn't arrived yet.
Road toll for a full year is 42,980 forint (€ 137).

So you can see that fuel prices take a much higher part of total driving costs here than they do in the Netherlands. Full year insurance is only a little bit more expensive than a total refueling, yearly tax is much cheaper than a refueling.
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I don't understand how insurance can be that cheap in Hungary. I mean, if you cause an accident, the cost will be pretty high, whether in Hungary, the Netherlands or the United States, especially if it involves personal injury, it's hard to believe vehicle crashes and injuries in Hungary have a cost that's maybe 10 or 15% of that in the Netherlands.

A liability only insurance is typically € 30 - 50 per month in the Netherlands, all-risk insurance being twice that.
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The U.S. state gas tax needs to double or triple to provide enough funding for the mobility needs. No gas tax raise means either more and more traffic congestion or toll roads.
No, we need to get over our national allergy to taxes and ratchet taxes up a notch or two on those best able to bear the burden, rather than increasing fuel costs by, what, 30 to 50 dollars a tank on working people as we're coming out of a recession.
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