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Old January 9th, 2012, 06:51 PM   #1801
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I think the tax went up a little bit after the sales tax which is added to it generally went up last year but it's effects must have been shown months ago.

It's perhaps greed and competition.
Well, said friendly neighborhood Sunoco station went up another four cents Friday night (and hasn't moved since), so it's 10 cents a gallon higher than it was on New Year's Eve. Seems to have gone up 12 to 15 cents in New Jersey since about December 29.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:06 PM   #1802
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The "benzin" sold in German-speaking countries equaled euro 92 in the Netherlands, they haven't sold that for years here. Euro 95 would be "super" in Germany.
"Normal" 91 RON in Germany is only rarely being offered, because lower production amounts make it more expensive than "Super" 95 RON, so it is often not offered any more."Super plus" is 98 RON in germany.

"EuroSuper" or "EuroPremium" or "Regular unleaded" in Europe, "SP95" in France - 95 ron

"SuperPlus" in Germany, Great Britain, Slovenia and Spain, "SP98" in France - 98 Ron

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

So I think that benzin in german speking country's has 95 octans. 92 octans gasoline I have seen only in Ukraine.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:13 PM   #1803
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That tax of you is horrible. It is not only fuel that is significantly cheaper here but insurance and taxes as well.
I filled Euro95 for 405 Ft/liter yesterday, it's €1.29.
For mandatory third-party insurance (it is the proper English expression?) I pay 21,400 forint (€ 68) per year and from 2012 on there's a 30% additional tax so it's altogether 27,900 forint (€ 89).
For tax I pay around 12,000 forint (~€ 40) yearly, the proper declaration for this year hasn't arrived yet.
Road toll for a full year is 42,980 forint (€ 137).

So you can see that fuel prices take a much higher part of total driving costs here than they do in the Netherlands. Full year insurance is only a little bit more expensive than a total refueling, yearly tax is much cheaper than a refueling.
Even in Pakistan insurance isn't that cheap and we can overhaul a whole engine for a few hundred dollars!
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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:17 PM   #1804
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I don't understand how insurance can be that cheap in Hungary. I mean, if you cause an accident, the cost will be pretty high, whether in Hungary, the Netherlands or the United States, especially if it involves personal injury, it's hard to believe vehicle crashes and injuries in Hungary have a cost that's maybe 10 or 15% of that in the Netherlands.

A liability only insurance is typically EUR 30 - 50 per month in the Netherlands, all-risk insurance being twice that.
The average cost of liability-only insurance premiums in the UK is actually more expensive than the average of comprehensive policies, because they tend to be bought by high-risk drivers who can't get or afford comprehensive coverage.

Average premiums also vary wildly with age and gender as young male drivers are responsible for a hugely disproportionate share of the most catastrophic and expensive accidents.

Figures for Q3 2011, average of three cheapest quotes for annual comprehensive insurance by gender and age.

Males

17-22 £2,977
23-29 £1,464
30-39 £788
40-49 £710
50-59 £599
60-69 £495
70+ £611

Females

17-22 £1,682
23-29 £901
30-39 £576
40-49 £591
50-59 £512
60-69 £400
70+ £449

Overall average £683

http://www.theaa.com/services/insura...nsuranceindex/

My premium this year £225

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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #1805
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Filled up this morning at the local Statoil. 13.67 kroner/litre (1.78 euros). But that's the cheapest time of the week here in Norway, when I drove by this afternoon, the price was up by a krone.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:39 PM   #1806
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You have a cheapest time in the week? Why is that?

Why doesn't everybody fill up at that time?
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Old January 9th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #1807
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You have a cheapest time in the week? Why is that?

Why doesn't everybody fill up at that time?
I don't really know why it is like that, but prices drop towards the end of the week. If I can, I always fill up Sunday night or Monday morning, and I'm not the only one.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #1808
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55 litres of petrol Dover UK = £72.- (9.1.2012)
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Old January 10th, 2012, 08:36 AM   #1809
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The "benzin" sold in German-speaking countries equaled euro 92 in the Netherlands, they haven't sold that for years here. Euro 95 would be "super" in Germany. I stick to diesel though. Not only is it less expensive, the consumption is also significantly lower, hence my fuel cost is only € 0.06 per km. Annual road tax is higher for diesel-powered vehicles in the Netherlands. I pay € 720 per year, but that's just because I drive a commercial van. If I had a VW Golf diesel it would be closer to € 1300 per year.
You are right. Euro 95 is Super. I drive about 7000 km per year. So it doesn't make sense to drive a diesel. Besides that I don't like the sound of diesel engines.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #1810
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What's the highest octane for unleaded fuel out there in the world? I heard it went as high as 110 RON octane (Shell Hong Kong)

Non-ethanol that is
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Old January 10th, 2012, 06:50 PM   #1811
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Autogas / LPG often goes to 110 RON.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #1812
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I prefer cetan - the highest here is Aral Ultimate (BP) with 60, Aral Super Diesel 55, Shell Vpower 58.
But I never felt a difference to the usual with 52>.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 02:49 PM   #1813
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I don't think fuel will reach 3€ in 20 years. In Italy it went from 1.3€ to 1.7€ in a little more than 1 year. At this speed it would reach 3€ in 3-4 years. And wages, in Italy, didn't grow at all in one year.
In 1973/4 petrol went from 37 to 73 pence a gallon in the UK

a gallon is 4.546 litres, so that was 8 to 16 pence a litre

in 1985 it was 41 or 42 pence a litre

now it's about £1.30 petrol, £1.40 diesel

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Old January 12th, 2012, 07:47 AM   #1814
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Yesterday in newspaper I find article about Disel price rise in Poland and here is some map:

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Europe's Disel price in €/ l

NOR ...1,82
UK ....1,68
ITA ...1,65
SWE ...1,62
DK ....1,57
GRE ...1,5
BEL ...1,49
IRL ...1,48
FIN ...1,45
FRA ...1,45
GER ...1,45
P ......1,45
NL ....1,44
SK ....1,41
A ......1,4
CZ ....1,4
EST ...1,37
HUN ...1,34
LV ....1,33
ESP ...1,33
LT .....1,29
SLO ...1,29
MNE ...1,29
BG ....1,29
ROM ...1,28
POL ...1,26
CRO ...1,25
Kosovo 1,23

1 € = 4,45 zł

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Old January 12th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #1815
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Here in Campinas - State of São Paulo - Brazil


Etanol - R$ 1,95/L = US$ 1,06 = 0,81 euros

Gasoline - R$ 2,65/L = US$ 1,44 = 1,10 euros

My car is flex, so what has the fuel cheaper price, I put in the car!!!!!!!
The price of fuels down !!!!!!!!!!


Now is:

Etanol - R$ 1,87/L = US$ 1,04 = 0,81 euros

Gasoline - R$ 2,57/L = US$ 1,43 = 1,12 euros


The value of the euro is falling too !!!!!!!!!!!

But as I paid in reais (R$)..............
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Old January 16th, 2012, 03:39 AM   #1816
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$2.80 per gallon in eastern Idaho, USA.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #1817
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The price of fuels down !!!!!!!!!!


Now is:

Etanol - R$ 1,87/L = US$ 1,04 = 0,81 euros

Gasoline - R$ 2,57/L = US$ 1,43 = 1,12 euros


The value of the euro is falling too !!!!!!!!!!!

But as I paid in reais (R$)..............
Prices fell even more !!!!!!!!!!

Now is:

Etanol - R$ 1,79/L = US$ 1,00 = 0,79 euros

Gasoline - R$ 2,51/L = US$ 1,40 = 1,10 euros
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Old January 16th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #1818
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In Bulgaria prices continue to climb up... Diesel hit 2.66 leva which is about 1,36 euro.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 10:22 PM   #1819
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In north-east Italy these are price's:

E95 - 1,66 €/l
Disel 1,64 €/l
LPG 0,76 €/l
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Old January 19th, 2012, 09:53 PM   #1820
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Poland - UpperSilesia (Zabrze) today:

E95 - PLN 5.60 / € 1.30 liter
E98 - PLN 5,85 / € 1.1,36 liter
Diesel - PLN 5,80 / € 1.35 liter
Diesel Super - PLN 6,00 / € 1.40 liter
LPG - PLN 2.85 / € 0.66 liter

exchange rate: 1€ = 4,30 PLN
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