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Old November 24th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #1261
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R7 will end north of Prishtina, at village Besi. Up to Merdare R7 will continue only if Prishtina - Nish motorway is going to be constructed.

Map you can see in Openstreetmap, but only until close to Prishtina.
Where is that village Besi? Is that on Merdare road?
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Old November 25th, 2012, 01:51 AM   #1262
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Where is that village Besi? Is that on Merdare road?
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Old November 25th, 2012, 07:18 AM   #1263
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I hope Thaci dows not build a motorway from Besi to the Serbian border. It is just not needed under the current situation. We should concntrate on building R6 and maybe in 10 or 15 years time extend the R6 to Peje which would effectively connect Montenegro with FYROM through an upgrade of the M9 dual carriageway. We really need to build the country before we think about connecting to a country which does not recognise our state or territorial integrity.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 07:59 AM   #1264
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I hope the priority of road construction will be based more on traffic counts than on political considerations. Of course, what the EU are willing to fund may be the biggest determinant.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #1265
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I hope Thaci dows not build a motorway from Besi to the Serbian border. It is just not needed under the current situation. We should concntrate on building R6 and maybe in 10 or 15 years time extend the R6 to Peje which would effectively connect Montenegro with FYROM through an upgrade of the M9 dual carriageway. We really need to build the country before we think about connecting to a country which does not recognise our state or territorial integrity.
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<P>&nbsp;Obviously you are focused on political things and promoting political ideas and parties, and this is just wrong thread for you.</P>
<P>Stick to the objective needs for each road- number of vehicles per day, trading conditions, etc.</P>
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Old November 25th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #1266
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I hope the priority of road construction will be based more on traffic counts than on political considerations. Of course, what the EU are willing to fund may be the biggest determinant.
R6 Prishtina - Ferizaj - Skopje is one of the busiest routes in Kosovo. Much, much busier than Prishtina - Podujeve - border with Serbia. The latter is used by trucks and a few people, but is otherwise an essentially empty road.

The vast majority of Kosovo's exports/imports go through Thessaloniki, so R6 from Prishtina to Skopje is the priority for Kosovo right now. If the EU decides to provide some funding, then sure, why not, but as things stand, that motorway is just on paper.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 09:48 PM   #1267
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A view of a completed stretch of section(s) 5/6 of the R7 motorway, in the municipality of Malishevė. Sections 5 and 6 are set to open to traffic on 27 November, 2012.



The location of this particular stretch can be seen here in Google Maps.
Section 5/6 runs to M9 near Gjergjicė village?
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #1268
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Section 5/6 runs to M9 near Gjergjicė village?
It runs from the village of Duhėl all the way to Gjergjicė, where it connects with M9 Prishtinė - Pejė.


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Old November 26th, 2012, 04:33 AM   #1269
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<P>Stick to the objective needs for each road- number of vehicles per day, trading conditions, etc.</P>
The Prishtine - Shkup highway has far more congestion than Prishtine Nis. There is no point connecting to Serbia on the basis that it is not the main economical priority. Nis to the border with Kosovo is 100km and has a rough terrain, I think its best we wait for the Serbs to finish their side of their project before we think about starting our side. We have only 20-30km to be built. I don't think Serbia will build this road anyway, they havn't even maintained the existing highway up to now. The Nis - Merdare highway is the worst highway in Serbia.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 05:31 AM   #1270
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How do you guys get to western Europe, if not through Serbia? You don't drive through Montenegro and Croatia, or?
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Old November 26th, 2012, 07:01 AM   #1271
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Through FYROM then Serbia on Corridor X. Our main trade partner is FYROM.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 08:48 AM   #1272
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Isn't that like a detour?
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Old November 26th, 2012, 08:58 AM   #1273
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Isn't that like a detour?
Mostly it is via Albania on highway, Montenegro, Croatia A1 and than further...
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Old November 26th, 2012, 09:05 AM   #1274
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Isn't that like a detour?
It is common everyone for drivers to choose a longer, faster, higher-quality road over a shorter, slower, lower-quality road. In this case, driving via Albania or Macedonia has the additional advantage of avoiding border tensions.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 12:23 PM   #1275
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In Kosovo, authorities issue two kinds of license plates. The RKS (Republic of Kosovo) plates and KS (first time issued/introduced by UN administration in Kosovo) plates. This was agreed in talks between Kosovo and Serbia, in order Serbs in Kosovo, let's say, feel better.

Now, back to the subject..


The question was, if a Kosovar wants to go to Western Europe, what route will choose.


1. There is an option to go thru Serbia.

- If the vehicle has RKS plates, then in border to Serbia driver (vehicle ) gets "temporary plates" to drive in Serbia. Also, the only ID that a Kosovar needs to enter into Serbia is ID issued by Republic of Kosovo authorities. To exit Serbia, let's say toward Hungary, Kosovar needs to have a passport, again issued by authorities of Republic of Kosovo (btw, authorities of Republic of Serbia issue passports to all Kosovar the would like to have one).

-If the vehicle has KS plates, then in border to Serbia vehicle doesn't change plates at all, it can continue travel in Serbia with the same KS plates. Every other procedure is just the same as with RKS plates.

Of course, most Kosovars avoid that route to Europe, because the memories of the war are still fresh.


2. Also, there is an option to go to Western Europe thru Albania, then to Montenegro, Croatia, and further.

This option is longer (depending on final destination), but this route is chosen much more often, because, it is not expected to have any kind of unpleasant situations. Even in Neum strip, often vehicles are not being stopped at all, or even if they are stopped, authorities allow to pass thru Neum strip. I am mentioning this, because Bosnia and Herzegovina authorities do not recognize Kosovar documents.


But, anyway, this is not a big deal, because of long distances, not many Kosovars travel by vehicles to western Europe. Most of them use flights from Prishtina Airport, that has pretty good connections with main European cities.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 12:37 PM   #1276
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We can acess Europe through an 8 hour ferry to Italy too. The infrastructure already exists.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 03:14 PM   #1277
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In any case, here's a fresh aerial video of sections 5 and 6 of the R7 Motorway. This video shows that the two sections are ready for inauguration tomorrow (27.11.2012). The video also shows the way R7 merges with M9 Prishtinė - Pejė at the village of Gjergjicė, as discussed a few posts ago.


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Old November 26th, 2012, 06:35 PM   #1278
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Let me explain to you and to everyone that is interested to know, what is build and what highway is going to be build between Peja e Prishtina as well as between Prizren and Prishtina.

In the map below can be seen two spots, A and B.

Spot "A" represents place where Pejė - Prishtnė and Prizren - Prishtinė merges. It is near the village Arllat.

Spot "B" represents place where the expressway finishes. This spot is close to the village Sllatinė.

From Pejė to the spot "A" existing road is a regular highway 1X1. It is planned to be upgraded to an expressway.

From Prizren to the spot "A" existing road is already a full motorway.

From spot "A" to spot "B" existing road is an unfinished expressway. It is a dual carriageway, two lanes for each direction, no intersection in same level, it has an 1.8 m emergency lanes, and access will be controlled. Works in this expressway are almost done.

From spot "B" to Prishtina existing road is a urban highway with dual carriageway, two lanes for each direction, 1.8 m emergency lanes, but with no controlled access and with couple of same level intersections with traffic light..

From spot "B" to north of Prishtina next year motorway (R7) will continue to be constructed.


Was just amusing myself with Google Earth trying to figure out how this will be , and I have a cpl. of questions: Will there be an intersection close to Prishtina airport with the existing (rather high quality as far as I can tell) urban expressway and a new "green signposted" motorway? And will there be an intersection close to Arllat with a real "green" motorway and a new expressway (the one on the above media clip)?
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Old November 26th, 2012, 06:50 PM   #1279
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Was just amusing myself with Google Earth trying to figure out how this will be , and I have a cpl. of questions: Will there be an intersection close to Prishtina airport with the existing (rather high quality as far as I can tell) urban expressway and a new "green signposted" motorway? And will there be an intersection close to Arllat with a real "green" motorway and a new expressway (the one on the above media clip)?
Look here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42...251953&zoom=12
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Old November 27th, 2012, 02:46 PM   #1280
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How do you guys get to western Europe, if not through Serbia? You don't drive through Montenegro and Croatia, or?



I would say more than 90% of Kosovo-Albanians drive through Serbia as it is the fastest route to the EU.

The rest that don't (and most didn't, back when RKS Docs weren't recognized in Serbia), are either scared of travelling through Serbia or choose the route via Croatia to avoid double taxation etc.

I personally prefer driving through Serbia. It takes only 11 hrs to reach Vienna, whereas through MNG-CRO it takes min. 18 hrs of active driving. (not to mention the unacceptable attitude of Croatian border police towards Albanians).

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