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Old November 16th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #161
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Just Ugly. Not a proper project for Paris.

Stop trolling about Paris being a museum if the Tour Triangle project were not completed, there are already landmarks for the 21st century, like Les Halles or La Fondation Louis Vuitton. It is also moving in the ZAC Rive Gauche or Batignolles.
I'd love to know your notion of 'beauty'...
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Old November 17th, 2014, 04:07 PM   #162
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Rejected, but...

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PARIS (AP) — The Paris City Council has rejected plans for a new skyscraper on the city's 19th-century skyline — but the mayor immediately rejected the vote as invalid.

The exceptionally bitter vote Monday embodies a larger debate over whether Paris should be a museum city or should be more open to modern architecture.

The council voted 83-78 in a secret ballot against the Tour Triangle, which would be the third-highest tower of Paris after the Eiffel Tower and the Montparnasse tower, often decried as a modern blight on the city's low-slung horizon.

Socialist Mayor Anne Hidalgo is in favor. Some conservative council members disclosed how they voted, which Hidalgo said violated the rules of a secret ballot. She declared its results invalid, apparently hoping for a new vote.
Against: 83 / In favor: 78

Really ashamed to be french sometimes....if new vote, not sure to get a positive outcome either...



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Old November 18th, 2014, 05:44 AM   #163
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I don't want to lose an icon of architecture because of 5 people.

And if they really hate how much the Montparnasse Tower sticks out wouldn't it just be logical to build tall buildings near it so it fits better??

I don't understand these people. It's not like they're tearing down the historical center or anything.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 02:23 PM   #164
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Here's an english article explaining pretty well what happened ThatOneGuy...

HERE

NKM (Nathalie Kociusko Morizet, right wing,UMP) lost to HIDALGO (Socialist,PS) to be the Mayor of Paris only a few months ago...yet again last year, NKM was backing the project along with the rest of the right wing, but since Hidalgo won the elections to be the new Mayor of Paris, NKM obviously changed her mind and now rejects TRIANGLE ferociously by pure hatred for Hidalgo, and she managed to brainwash the pro Triangle amid her own party to make them vote NO...

This is where we are now, pathetic init...? NKM wants her 'revenge' at any price...

Hidalgo said this morning as part of a radio show that many voters from the right wing came to see her beforehand to tell her that they were in favor of it and wanted to vote secretly, but they were forced by NKM to show their votes...

It's actually 3 votes which made the difference yesterday, if the secret ballot had been respected, those mentioned previously would have voted yes and Triangle would have been accepted, by a short margin yes, but it would be accepted to date.

There will probably be a new vote next year but I'm afraid it won't change much as it's just a politician war...


Anne Hidalgo (left wing, PS) / Nathalie Kosciusko Morizet (right wing, UMP)
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Old November 20th, 2014, 02:21 AM   #165
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http://news.donga.com/3/all/20141120/68006050/1

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Old November 20th, 2014, 02:29 AM   #166
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As in the eyes of foreigner
this triangle tower can harmony with effel tower.
it can be some overlap between old and modern
Montparnasse Tower is ugly and disharmony with paris's amazing land scape

but this tower is different. look some good n creative
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Old November 20th, 2014, 08:00 PM   #167
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Interesting to see Korea's perception on this, thank you inno. Though, what does the article say roughly?

Luckily, Triangle is not dead yet...Anne Hidalgo -the Mayor of Paris- confirmed today that a new vote will take place in March 2015. By then, she needs to make the project change (services wise) to hopefully please some opponents (among the right wing, UMP) and make them change their mind. If Hidalgo and her team manage to get a majority, there may be a happy outcome. Time will tell...
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:03 PM   #168
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Interesting to see Korea's perception on this, thank you inno. Though, what does the article say roughly?

Luckily, Triangle is not dead yet...Anne Hidalgo -the Mayor of Paris- confirmed today that a new vote will take place in March 2015. By then, she needs to make the project change (services wise) to hopefully please some opponents (among the right wing, UMP) and make them change their mind. If Hidalgo and her team manage to get a majority, there may be a happy outcome. Time will tell...

Good to talk with you

that korean news article's Headline title is "Parisian hate skyscraper which block paris's skyline"
And explain recently vote result and Some opponent opinions.
또 파리 시는 이를 행정재판소에 회부하겠다고 밝혀 초고층 빌딩 건축은 행정재판으로 가려지게 됐다.==> paris government handle over to COURT DECISION.
Therefore this tower's destiny clear in court(<==Base on your comment. probably This korean news is wrong information and unfact)

파리 시는 피라미드의 단면을 잘라놓은 듯한 삼각형 구조의 이 건물이 새로운 랜드마크가 될 것으로 기대하고 있다. 하지만 반대론자들은 파리의 아름다운 스카이라인을 망칠 것이라며 반발하고 있다. ==>Paris government expect that this triangle building will be NEW landmark in city. but opponent claim that this building will be RUIN paris's beautiful skyline.

In short korean news report base on very NEUTRAL stance.
http://news.donga.com/3/all/20141120/68006050/1


bytheway I surprised that one of opponent is a political right wing UMP!
In Korea usually Left wing opponent skyscraper project though.

Anyway good to hear that Anne Hidalgo mayor push up this interesting project again. Hopefully this creative design may not be changed.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 10:01 PM   #169
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My pleasure .

Thanks for your answer.

The right wing politician (Nathalie K.M.) used to support the project a lot, but she lost an important election to Hidalgo lately... therefore she voted 'no' just to upset Hidalgo (she hates her), that's only a childish argument/war between them (read post #164 for more details).

As mentioned in my previous post, the new project won't change architecturally speaking, only the tower's services need to change (some UMP opponents require less offices, among others...etc)
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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:27 PM   #170
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Unibail is going to present a new version of the Triangle tower to the paris council next week

article in french

http://www.lagazettedescommunes.com/...rizet-rejetee/
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Old June 9th, 2015, 10:15 AM   #171
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Triangle 2 unveiled

A new vote will take place late June!

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Why was a hotel added to the new Tour Triangle proposal? Also considering that the hotel only takes up half a floor and is located at the middle of the tower instead of at the top. Also, there could have easily been a standalone hotel planned within the vicinity of the Porte des Versailles exhibition center, if there was an available site for it.
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Why was a hotel added to the new Tour Triangle proposal? Also considering that the hotel only takes up half a floor and is located at the middle of the tower instead of at the top. Also, there could have easily been a standalone hotel planned within the vicinity of the Porte des Versailles exhibition center, if there was an available site for it.
ask unibail Rodamco!
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Hopefully this cheesestake will be disapproved. They could offer a different location. But clearly this thing standing around alone will screw the cityscape of Paris around it and from a distance!
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Hopefully this cheesestake will be disapproved. They could offer a different location. But clearly this thing standing around alone will screw the cityscape of Paris around it and from a distance!
dont be sad.. i am sure that you will like it when finished




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A PDF showing the project in detail

http://www.tour-triangle.com/pdf/UNI...R-TRIANGLE.PDF
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Old June 9th, 2015, 09:06 PM   #177
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Hopefully this cheesestake will be disapproved. They could offer a different location. But clearly this thing standing around alone will screw the cityscape of Paris around it and from a distance!
I'd rather be blind rather than read such a nonsense...
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https://www.pie-mag.com/articles/984...roval-chances/

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Changes to Unibail-Rodamco's controversial Tour Triangle project in Paris have boosted its cost to around €550m and will also cut returns. But the modifications could win over enough centrist politicians to win approval from the city council.

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ask unibail Rodamco!
I forgot to ask this: Was the hotel even in the original plans for the Tour Triangle?
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Interiors are stunning, but this trangular shape.. I'd prefer it to be a good ol' upright glass-and-steel monolith. The way it is is unnecesarilyflashy and a bit cheesy
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