NFL football in the Southeast

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by 3Ironhead3

Don't know about the rest of ya'll,but I'm getting a little sick of the NFC East butt kissing by most of the sportscasters.Especially Michaels and Madden.They act like it's God's gift to the NFL.

Besides the Giants,what has any of those teams done in recent memory?

Redskins-Gimme a break!Cowboys-Chokers!Eagles-Chokers!

The NFC South is looking very competitive and strong so far.Granted it is a long season and we could all be crying the blues come January.But I think the NFC South will produce a Super Bowl team this year and hopefully it will be the Panthers.

Ok and what team in the NFC South has done ANYTHING recently besides the Bucs which was 5 years ago? Let's not argue the facts. THIS season, the NFC East is the best division in the NFL. THIS season, the NFC East is returning to it's old name which is the NFC Beast which is home to 11 Super Bowls compared to 1 for the entire NFC South. The NFC East is 14-5 with only one loss coming from outside the division in a hard fought game at Chicago. The rest was inside the division. The NFC East is very very talented and very dominate and physical football like it was in it's glory days. As a Cowboy fan, I hate every team in the East but we don't belong in any other division but the East and I give credit where credit is due. All the teams in the East are good.

[3Ironhead3]

The NFC South is what,2-3 years old?The NFC East has been around since the 70's maybe longer.

The last Super Bowl the Cowboys "won" was in the 90's.No one will ever convince me O'Donnell didn't take a payoff to blow that game.Thigpen was wide open on both passes the SOB threw right to Woodson.The Steelers outplayed them in every phase of the game.

The Panthers weren't even around last time the Giants or Skins won a SB.
Like any sport/business the NFL is all about "what have you done for me lately".

During the Panthers Super Bowl run Madden and Summerall called the playoff games like they had money on the other teams.

Again we may all be singing the blues come January.But the smack talk is fun!

[QueenCityDrag]

bucs and panthers are almost statistically identical right now. i know all that goes out the window come game day but i think its a good bet this'll be a brutal game (that the panthers win)

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by 3Ironhead3

The NFC South is what,2-3 years old?The NFC East has been around since the 70's maybe longer.

The last Super Bowl the Cowboys "won" was in the 90's.No one will ever convince me O'Donnell didn't take a payoff to blow that game.Thigpen was wide open on both passes the SOB threw right to Woodson.The Steelers outplayed them in every phase of the game.

The Panthers weren't even around last time the Giants or Skins won a SB.
Like any sport/business the NFL is all about "what have you done for me lately".

During the Panthers Super Bowl run Madden and Summerall called the playoff games like they had money on the other teams.

Again we may all be singing the blues come January.But the smack talk is fun!

BS. Except Carolina, all the other teams have been in the league for over 30 years. So I don't care to hear the excuses about them not having more championships. Since the other three have been in the league, the NFC East has won 9 championships from the early 80s to today.

Dallas outgained them on the ground. Pittsburgh had them in the air. Both played well on special teams. Pitt had more total yards though. I fail to see how Pitt outplayed them in every phase of the game. Dallas was playing zone baiting O'Donnell to make a mistake. He did, twice. He simply didn't see Larry Brown especially on the clinching INT.

What has the NFC South done for us lately? Right now, the NFC East is the more impressive division, period.

[skysdalimit]

The Cowboys are going down!! Yeah!!!

[3Ironhead3]

Until recent years the Falcons,Saints and Bucs could barely be considered NFL teams.

There is a really good article at Panthers.com regarding the NFC South,it's 6 years since the realignment,my how time has flown!I was mistaken about how old the division was.Check it out if ya'll like.It most certainly is relevant to division rivalries and this heated debate we have going.LOL!

I'll give ya the East has a long tradition,is old school in many ways(which I love) and the combined regular season record is better at this point.However I still say the Eagles and Cowboys are chokers.Look at how they've done in the post season in recent years.Once the post season has begun the regular season doesn't mean squat.


I still say O'Donnell took a payoff to blow the SB.It was way too obvious to me and the people I was watching the game with.None of them are Steelers fans.I am and they were giving me the "what's wrong with your QB" business.I was at a loss.Funny how O'Donnell was on another team the very next year.Terry Bradshaw had a very interesting take on that whole deal.
The man has 4 SB rings and knows what he's talking about.

I still say they outplayed and outhustled Dallas the whole game.They certainly showed more heart and left everything on the field.Can Dallas say that?

[Hia-leah JDM]

Are you all forgetting about the small team in Miami?

[Sean in New Orleans]

Nice to see the Saints take care of Oakland today!!!

[FLAWDA-FELLA]

Yes siiirrr, how bout dem Buccaneers baby!!!

[Hia-leah JDM]

The Dolphins played with my heart today.

[Sean in New Orleans]

Originally Posted by FLAWDA-FELLA

Yes siiirrr, how bout dem Buccaneers baby!!!

Thank you for taking care of the Panthers. We'll do our part next week!

[WeimieLvr]

Originally Posted by 3Ironhead3

Until recent years the Falcons,Saints and Bucs could barely be considered NFL teams.

Some Falcons "NFL team-worthy" seasons:

1971...3rd, NFC West 8-6

1972...2nd, NFC West 7-7

1973...2nd, NFC West 9-5

1977...2nd, NFC West 7-7

1978...2nd, NFC West 9-7 Won Wild Card Playoffs, Eagles, 14-13
Lost Divisional Playoffs, Cowboys, 27-20

1980...1st, NFC West 12-4 Lost Divisional Playoffs, Cowboys, 30-27

1982...2nd, NFC West 5-4 (strike season) Lost First Round, Vikings, 30-24

1986...3rd, NFC West 8-8

1991...2nd, NFC West 10-6 Won Wild Card Playoffs, Saints, 27-20
Lost Divisional Playoffs, Redskins, 24-7

1994...3rd, NFC West 7-9

1995...2nd, NFC West 9-7 Lost Wild Card Playoffs, Packers, 37-20

1998...1st, NFC West 14-2 Won Divisional Playoffs, 49ers, 20-18
Won Conference Championship, Vikings, 30-27
Lost Super Bowl XXXIII, Broncos, 34-19


The Falcons have been relevant in more than a couple of NFL seasons prior to 2000. Did you forget about these? These weren't "recent years"....

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by 3Ironhead3

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I still say they outplayed and outhustled Dallas the whole game.They certainly showed more heart and left everything on the field.Can Dallas say that?

Um, yes. they won the game. They made the plays when it mattered. They executed down the stretch. Something the Pittsburgh Steelers cannot say they did in SB XXX. O'donnell wasn't paid off. That's just something an all around Cowboy hater would say. He simply faced a confused scheme and paid dearly for it.

[g-man430]

Yeah. The Saints did their part last week.

[3Ironhead3]

[QUOTE=WeimieLvr;26530540]Some Falcons "NFL team-worthy" seasons:

1971...3rd, NFC West 8-6

1972...2nd, NFC West 7-7

1973...2nd, NFC West 9-5

1977...2nd, NFC West 7-7

1978...2nd, NFC West 9-7 Won Wild Card Playoffs, Eagles, 14-13
Lost Divisional Playoffs, Cowboys, 27-20

1980...1st, NFC West 12-4 Lost Divisional Playoffs, Cowboys, 30-27

1982...2nd, NFC West 5-4 (strike season) Lost First Round, Vikings, 30-24

1986...3rd, NFC West 8-8

1991...2nd, NFC West 10-6 Won Wild Card Playoffs, Saints, 27-20
Lost Divisional Playoffs, Redskins, 24-7

1994...3rd, NFC West 7-9

1995...2nd, NFC West 9-7 Lost Wild Card Playoffs, Packers, 37-20

1998...1st, NFC West 14-2 Won Divisional Playoffs, 49ers, 20-18
Won Conference Championship, Vikings, 30-27
Lost Super Bowl XXXIII, Broncos, 34-19


I remember those years.I'm 43 and have been an avid football fan my whole life practically.In the 70's The NFC West was a weak division and a mediocre record would garner a 2nd or 3rd place finish(that's out of 4 teams mind you).

The Falcons had some good years periodically.But the common denominator in your statistics is the word lost.

Like what the Panthers did today,they lost.Period.

[Dale]

I guess the Dolphins are not back.

Just last week, there was a silly column in the Orlando Sentinel about the Dolphins had suddenly vaulted into prominance over the Bucs and Jags. In reality, they're the third-best NFL team in the state right now.

[Hia-leah JDM]

Like I said, they played with my heart.

[WeimieLvr]

Originally Posted by 3Ironhead3

Until recent years the Falcons,Saints and Bucs could barely be considered NFL teams.

So now it's gone from the above to: "The Falcons had some good years periodically." That's the reason I listed all of the Falcons "okay" seasons...because of your original statement. It was stupid. Don't talk shit and then act like you didn't do it...you made a ridiculous remark and I posted information that negated it. End of story.

Nobody said the Falcon's history in the NFL is stellar. But they have had plenty of decent seasons and can be considered an NFL team.

[papa_spaz]

Great win by the Saints over the Raiders. The half time game was also pretty good.

http://www.acakadut.com/videos/v-aWz...-football.html

[Cannonized]

Originally Posted by g-man430

Yeah. The Saints did their part last week.

We had like 7 starters injured. As we get those players back, well... we'll just see what happens.