daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > General Urban Developments > DN Archives



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools
Old December 17th, 2008, 05:51 AM   #841
CULWULLA
Registered User
 
CULWULLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 62,760
Likes (Received): 10144

hows this going?
as for its mass, its approx 90m/300ft wide whole wway up until 850m where it becomes a open tower structure 150m high.
ill have to draw it compared to burj dubai in my updates
__________________
Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Sydney- 2020.. https://www.buildsydney.com/forum
CULWULLA no está en línea  

Sponsored Links
Old December 17th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #842
luci203
Registered User
 
luci203's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,129
Likes (Received): 1202

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubai_Steve View Post
There was not much problem in filling all these buildings in Dubai, so I am sure 1 more can be filled even if it is tall.
[/IMG]
I was never concerned about filling this tower, but filling the dozens new towers around NHT will be a problem (we have to consider also tons of other projects all over Dubai, how much labour force can absorbe in the future? they can't work all in banks, turism and comerce (if everything planned is built, we are talking in millions).
luci203 no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 09:24 AM   #843
buildmilehightower
NANI Luis Almeida Cunha
 
buildmilehightower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Posts: 3,421
Likes (Received): 240

Quote:
Originally Posted by CULWULLA View Post
hows this going?
as for its mass, its approx 90m/300ft wide whole wway up until 850m where it becomes a open tower structure 150m high.
ill have to draw it compared to burj dubai in my updates
you mean at 1150m height? because that is the most likely height until now but there hasn't been official announcement about even the current planned height. (only 1km+)
buildmilehightower no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #844
Dubai_Steve
Dubai State of Mind
 
Dubai_Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,601
Likes (Received): 135

Quote:
Originally Posted by luci203 View Post
I was never concerned about filling this tower, but filling the dozens new towers around NHT will be a problem (we have to consider also tons of other projects all over Dubai, how much labour force can absorbe in the future? they can't work all in banks, turism and comerce (if everything planned is built, we are talking in millions).
In 10 years time or so when this is complete, I am sure the population and demand will have increased greatly. Always be prepared
Dubai_Steve no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 06:54 PM   #845
patchay
Registered User
 
patchay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Brisbane
Posts: 13,445
Likes (Received): 1521

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubai_Steve View Post
In 10 years time or so when this is complete, I am sure the population and demand will have increased greatly. Always be prepared
wat is the expected population within this tower alone?
i read it somewhere but cant remember where isit now.
__________________
Quote:
THE KUALA LUMPUR DEVELOPMENTS COMPILATION (LATEST: JAN'2015) >>> PAGE 1 >>> PAGE 2 (Suburb)

PATCHAY | Website | Facebook | Flickr | Twitter | Instagram | Foursquare
patchay no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #846
ZZ-II
I love Skyscrapers
 
ZZ-II's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria
Posts: 33,507
Likes (Received): 6530

Quote:
Originally Posted by VRS View Post
Nakheel Harbour Tower will need super high tech elevator...
i hope they'll use maglev elevators. but i'm not sure how far the advancement of this technology is at the moment.
ZZ-II no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 07:14 PM   #847
Ŝróndeimr
Adventurous!
 
Ŝróndeimr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Posts: 12,222
Likes (Received): 2264

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZ-II View Post
maglev elevators
hm, thats a new one, does any exemples exist? at taller buildings as of now? (i am no elevator expert)
Ŝróndeimr está en línea ahora  
Old December 17th, 2008, 07:17 PM   #848
ZZ-II
I love Skyscrapers
 
ZZ-II's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria
Posts: 33,507
Likes (Received): 6530

i'm no expert also, i only read something about this technology a few weeks ago. i'll search a bit trough the net to find out more.
can't imagine an 850m long elevator with cables, too much weight
ZZ-II no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 07:31 PM   #849
Ŝróndeimr
Adventurous!
 
Ŝróndeimr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Posts: 12,222
Likes (Received): 2264

yeah, searched up one now, seems like they opened the world first one in Tokyo. But this is flying elevatores, i hope they make the systems safe incase of magnetic failour or something. Wuld not want that to happend on Nakheel Tower top floor!
Ŝróndeimr está en línea ahora  
Old December 17th, 2008, 07:48 PM   #850
christos-greece
Moderator!
 
christos-greece's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 174,073
Likes (Received): 240990

Those maglev elevators are safe?
__________________
Urban Showcase: Athens Kalamata Trikala Thessaloniki
Cityscapes: Paris Barcelona Dubai, U.A.E. Monte Carlo, Monaco
General photography: Castles of France - Chateau de France and, since May of '08: Greece!
christos-greece no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #851
AvanGard
HMS
 
AvanGard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sofia
Posts: 250
Likes (Received): 25

This can help.
The problem is that there are still no real-world tests. So currently, it is just on paper and theory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYDYhlJXa4

Last edited by AvanGard; December 17th, 2008 at 07:56 PM.
AvanGard no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 07:53 PM   #852
Ŝróndeimr
Adventurous!
 
Ŝróndeimr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Posts: 12,222
Likes (Received): 2264

Well UK have to shut one down after many technical issues concerning the safety usage. But what do i know, pretty sure they are going to be sure it is safe if they want to use it in Nakheel Harbour Tower...
Ŝróndeimr está en línea ahora  
Old December 17th, 2008, 08:01 PM   #853
christos-greece
Moderator!
 
christos-greece's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 174,073
Likes (Received): 240990

maglev elevators or even "cable" style elevators is almost the same thing...
The speed from level 1 to top must be very high!
__________________
Urban Showcase: Athens Kalamata Trikala Thessaloniki
Cityscapes: Paris Barcelona Dubai, U.A.E. Monte Carlo, Monaco
General photography: Castles of France - Chateau de France and, since May of '08: Greece!
christos-greece no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 08:11 PM   #854
ZZ-II
I love Skyscrapers
 
ZZ-II's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria
Posts: 33,507
Likes (Received): 6530

wrong, that are two totally different technologys . and i'm 100% sure, for such tall towers a maglev elevator is the better possibility.
ZZ-II no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #855
Squiggles
Registered User
 
Squiggles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Madison
Posts: 728
Likes (Received): 22

That's ridiculous. Such a massive tower.... But I admit that I do love the design. Star Wars tower indeed.
Squiggles no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #856
Krattle
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 437
Likes (Received): 12

This is a skyscraper forum, and this is a skyscraper, so why are so many people complaining about it? Oh, it's too big! Oh, all the poor people!

You could say the same of every single skyscraper ever built, so if you want to eschew all skyscrapers as wastes of money and grotesque displays of wealth, then leave this forum!

I think this tower is awesome. Wish more thought had been put into the design, but I suppose we won't really know what it looks like until it's finished.
Krattle no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #857
helghast
Registered User
 
helghast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,374
Likes (Received): 147

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZ-II View Post
i'm no expert also, i only read something about this technology a few weeks ago. i'll search a bit trough the net to find out more.
can't imagine an 850m long elevator with cables, too much weight
its possible to have a 850m cable. but they would have to use a gen elevator. which instead of a cable, it's a light weight belt. also it's stronger than conventional steel cables. and it last's 3 times longer!
__________________
"If you put the empire state building on top of the Sears Tower then it's reasonable to say you'll be in the neighbourhood," Mr Baker says.
helghast no está en línea  
Old December 17th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #858
AltinD
The Modecator
 
AltinD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: TIRANA / Dubai / Vienna
Posts: 31,827
Likes (Received): 6071

Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSkyWatcher View Post
OK....first off, the footprint of BD is not smaller than the new tower. Look again. BD has wings on the lower floors that go out further than the circle. When you say footprint I am guessing you mean including the podium floors right?
Footprint is the concrete raft upon which the main structure is build and those lower floors are addittions to the structure and not part of it. They started going up when the main structure was at least 20 floors tall.

What malec posted is correct.
__________________
I am the eye in the sky, Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules, Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind.

AltinD no está en línea  
Old December 18th, 2008, 01:42 AM   #859
Mplsuptown
Registered User
 
Mplsuptown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Minneapolis MN
Posts: 2,170
Likes (Received): 713

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZ-II View Post
i hope they'll use maglev elevators. but i'm not sure how far the advancement of this technology is at the moment.
Maybe better - use pneumatic tubes - whoosh.

This building would be the 8th Wonder.
__________________
I ain't got time to breed

*And Major D., just leave the angry man's post up. - spectre000
Mplsuptown no está en línea  
Old December 18th, 2008, 03:04 AM   #860
Imperfect Ending
Or is it?
 
Imperfect Ending's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 10,759
Likes (Received): 452

Omg.. Dubai...
you crazy
__________________

Imperfect Ending no está en línea  


Closed Thread

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu