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Old March 15th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #1361
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Actually a lot of cities/countries in the world could build a tower over 1km, but they don't want too.

Can you Imagine how many buildings over 1 Km can you build with the money they spent only in this picture?
(battleships, carriers, airplanes, weapons)

Yeah what a waste.

The other cities can`t build it. If you build such a tower in New York you would have just one tower that costs a lot of money. In Dubai you build a big tower and develope an entire city around it. The city around it creates the cash for the developer. That`s what many people don`t understand. It makes economic sence to build such heigh towers in Dubai.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 12:19 PM   #1362
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Yeah what a waste.

The other cities can`t build it. If you build such a tower in New York you would have just one tower that costs a lot of money. In Dubai you build a big tower and develope an entire city around it. The city around it creates the cash for the developer. That`s what many people don`t understand. It makes economic sence to build such heigh towers in Dubai.
Not to mention in New York it won't make a difference... Even if you build a 1 km tower (witch would totally ruin the skyline, but that is another thing) the buildings around would be about the same price as now... as for the apartments around Burj Dubai, without Burh Dubai, it would sell for less than half as now...
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Old March 15th, 2009, 01:12 PM   #1363
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Not to mention in New York it won't make a difference... Even if you build a 1 km tower (witch would totally ruin the skyline, but that is another thing) the buildings around would be about the same price as now... as for the apartments around Burj Dubai, without Burh Dubai, it would sell for less than half as now...
That`s the reason why Dubai is the only city in the world that would really build a tower over 1km.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 01:20 PM   #1364
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at first they need to fill all the other towers, and thats going to need more than one year. and by what you hear about dubai in the news, wouldnt even be surprised if thats never going to happen... they have built much to much. they just wanted to get attetion and hoped that thats enough to make people move to dubai, well, it could have been succesful, but then came the bloody crisis and people are less willing to spend their money in luxury appartments into a economic unsafe place that is known as a bubble possible to burst.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:55 PM   #1365
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That is the biggest problem, with everything going up in Dubai (somme projects are on hold, but they already started) I don't know if the market can absorb another cluster of several supertalls and dozens of other skyscrapers...
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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:01 PM   #1366
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That is the biggest problem, with everything going up in Dubai (somme projects are on hold, but they already started) I don't know if the market can absorb another cluster of several supertalls and dozens of other skyscrapers...
It all depends how long will this financial crisis last......

If it lasts 1-2 years, Nakheel tower chances of getting build will go up.

If it lasts 4+ years, no way it's going to get build, most likely canceled.

If it lasts 1-2 years, you're going to see projects like one Dubai, and park avenue tower actually getting built. And towers which were canceled like Anara actually come back and get built also.

Hopefully this financial crisis will not last long and people will start getting jobs and towers in Dubai,Qatar,Kuwait and other cities get build.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:13 PM   #1367
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but i just cant figure out where the miollions of people should come from who are needed to fill all the towers, since you have almost no rights in dubai as a stranger (especially as a not muslim or millionaire), it surelly wont be a preffered home for most people. well but its tax free and stuff, so capitalism could do it, if capitalism isnt going to end soon.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:25 PM   #1368
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if capitalism isnt going to end soon.

LOL

Lament, but, more 1 year and the economy returns to the normality and the capitalism will be more capitalist.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 06:24 PM   #1369
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:1 year and the economy returns to the normality and the capitalism will be more capitalist.
To the normality... yes... but what happend in the last 10 or so years was not normal. I doubt we will see very soon the shameless borrowing, and the mindless spending that we had in the last decade...
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Old March 15th, 2009, 06:41 PM   #1370
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on hold?

whats the status of it now? will this be constructed or will it be cancelled because of the credit crunch?

i like the top part of the building, looks futuristic. but i think the colour is abit dull, should be a lightish silverish colour, that would suffice. or perhaps be daring and make glow colours in the dark or something

still, this building is a winner. hope it gets build. no city can match dubai, imho.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 06:45 PM   #1371
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at the moment it is on hold, lets hope they'll restart in 2010
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on hold?

whats the status of it now? will this be constructed or will it be cancelled because of the credit crunch?

i like the top part of the building, looks futuristic. but i think the colour is abit dull, should be a lightish silverish colour, that would suffice. or perhaps be daring and make glow colours in the dark or something

still, this building is a winner. hope it gets build. no city can match dubai, imho.
Well it looks dull now because it's not a real picture, trust me if this tower gets build (Probably not) it will look amazing in every aspect.

Hopefully the financial crisis we're in right now goes away in a year or 2.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 02:43 PM   #1373
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at the moment it is on hold, lets hope they'll restart in 2010
thats about the right year they'll start I think...
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Old March 17th, 2009, 05:23 PM   #1374
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This project is important for Dubai. It will get build and when it does, the tower will act as gravity. Attracting people and capital. No one is going to let that kind of opportunity slip through their fingers.
The Burj is already having a similar effect.
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Stocks markets started a big rush last few days, and I hope it's going to continue.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 08:23 AM   #1377
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This project is important for Dubai. It will get build and when it does, the tower will act as gravity. Attracting people and capital. No one is going to let that kind of opportunity slip through their fingers.
The Burj is already having a similar effect.
Are you saying Dubai like a big amusement park? And that people are only going to come there, to see the tall buildings, man made islands and lakes.

I personal don't think this buildings going to make or break Dubai. If Dubai is meant to be the greatest city in the world, then it will be that. But if it isn't then it just isn't, people are just going to have to live with that.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 03:15 PM   #1378
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Are you saying Dubai like a big amusement park? And that people are only going to come there, to see the tall buildings, man made islands and lakes.

I personal don't think this buildings going to make or break Dubai. If Dubai is meant to be the greatest city in the world, then it will be that. But if it isn't then it just isn't, people are just going to have to live with that.
Obviously, you see Dubai as an amusement park because I never said or implied that. Dubai is attractive for so many other reasons beside its skyscrapers. Economical, geopolitical, trading routes, financial. But the skyscrapers are simply becoming the cultural mark of Dubai. They add to that attractiveness. People will want to live and work in or near such marvels. Moreover, if that wasn’t the case in the first place Dubai would probably still be a desert. It is with such projects that Dubai is attracting people. Audacious, imaginative, and record setting.

Do you think that Dubai would have been so well known if there were no palm islands, no Burj al Arab, no Burj Dubai or any other skyscraper or structure? Would it have had the same fame if there were only 10 to 20 storey buildings spread across 50 kilometers, and no manmade islands.

Funny that you think that skyscrapers are not important in the skyscrapercity forum.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 04:46 PM   #1379
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Obviously, you see Dubai as an amusement park because I never said or implied that. Dubai is attractive for so many other reasons beside its skyscrapers. Economical, geopolitical, trading routes, financial.
Most womens and more than half of mens don't give a #@$& about how tall a building is. Not to mention a lot of people are afraid of living/working in tall buildings.
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Most womens and more than half of mens don't give a #@$& about how tall a building is. Not to mention a lot of people are afraid of living/working in tall buildings.
In many countries, to live/work in tall buildings represents status. The important is what thinks the majority.
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