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Old October 9th, 2008, 03:27 AM   #21
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thn hw come the report say that it can transport 500,000 pilgrims with in 6 to 8 hours.........???
maybe they will provide a long train instead of normal monorail with short train.

the longer, the better as the pilgrims have exact same destination.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:28 AM   #22
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Makkah monorail work to begin after Hajj

Work on the first phase of SR20 billion Makkah monorail project will start in December soon after the Hajj season to facilitate transportation of pilgrims between the holy sites of Makkah, Mina, Arafat and Muzdalifa.

The project is designed to transport five million pilgrims.

"An agreement will be signed with the winner of the contract to implement the project soon after Hajj," said Dr. Habeeb Zain Al-Abidine, deputy minister of municipal and rural affairs and secretary-general of the Commission for Development of Makkah, Madinah and the Holy Sites, a tv channel reported.

Five specialized international companies, which were short-listed from 10, are competing for the multibillion dollar project, he said, adding that a meeting chaired by Prince Miteb, minister of municipal and rural affairs and chairman of the commission, would be held to open their tenders.

Zain Al-Abidine said a feasibility study conducted by an international company had proposed five monorails linking the holy sites. Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah has given his approval to the project that will ease transportation of more than three million pilgrims between the holy sites. "The feasibility study suggested the second monorail be built two to three years after the construction of the first one," he said, adding that a single monorail would cost SR4 billion.

The first monorail beginning from Mina will transport nearly one million pilgrims including 360,000 Arab pilgrims.

Monorail, which is a single rail serving as the track for a wheeled or (magnetically) levitating vehicle, has been rapidly paving its way as a modern urban transit system, providing the most-sought-after transportation solutions for a built-up congested city. The Makkah monorails will be 8 to 10 meters above the ground to ensure smooth flow of pedestrians and vehicles.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #23
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so its not under construction! the title should be changed to either approved or proposed
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Old October 10th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #24
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SR4 billion is more than enough to build a maglev train from Mina to Makkah.

the reason is the short distance (<8km) and also no high population along the way.

but i believe the trip for the train will be unique as for starting of Jamrah day, people will go there, while end of Jamrah, people will go back. Thus i they can provide non-stop one-way trip to each two places.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:01 PM   #25
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Are they seriously considering maglev? That would be such a waste of money for such a short distance. I hope they don't do maglev and just do a regular track and also make it useful for all year use by using it to connect parts of the city and the parking spaces outside the city. How awesome would that be!! I mean if you are spending on public transport, why not make it useful for the city all the time and not just for 5 days during the year.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:37 PM   #26
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i'm still annoyed about the title!
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Old October 10th, 2008, 06:55 PM   #27
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Are they seriously considering maglev? That would be such a waste of money for such a short distance. I hope they don't do maglev and just do a regular track and also make it useful for all year use by using it to connect parts of the city and the parking spaces outside the city. How awesome would that be!! I mean if you are spending on public transport, why not make it useful for the city all the time and not just for 5 days during the year.
a regular track for <10 KM not going to cost more than SR1 billion.
so i assumed SR4 billion is enough to build a Maglev
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Old October 19th, 2008, 07:07 PM   #28
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Consortia submit offers for Makkah monorail project

Arabian Business reported that Saudi Arabia's Ministry of Municipalities and Rural Affairs is planning to construct a monorail in the holy cities of Makkah, Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafat by 2010. Four monorail tracks will be launched to connect the holy sites.

Consortia including Agility PWC Logistics Consortium, Mada Consortium, Saudi Binladin Consortium and Al-Muhaidib/ACWA (Tarabot) Consortium have presented their financial and technical offers for implementing the project.

The plan is to start work on the project before Hajj in December to guarantee completion in 18 months. The ministry has said that the streets will not be closed during the construction process.

The route for the monorail, which will be operating on highly powerful steel railroads supported by strong concrete pillars, has already been identified. The monorail will be 5.5 meter above the ground and passengers will be able to board or get off by ordinary or electric stairs. The monorail will run at heights of between 8 meter to 10 meter to avoid any obstruction of traffic and pedestrians on the ground. It will also enable residents of Makkah to use it to perform the stoning ritual in Mina.

Dr Habib Zainul Abideen deputy minister of Municipal and Rural Affairs said that "The monorail system is expected to generate annual revenues of SAR 200 million by transporting some one million Hajj pilgrims at a cost of SAR 200 per pilgrim and an additional SAR 150 million from services to Umrah pilgrims charging SAR 50 per pilgrim.”

Mr Hilmi Zaini president of Scomi Engineering said that the Scomi Group was currently studying proposals from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain to set up monorail systems in the region. Mr Hilmi said that "We expect one of these countries to be our base for expansion in the Middle East, just like India and Vietnam are our bases for expansion in South Asia and South-East Asia, respectively.”
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Old October 20th, 2008, 04:29 AM   #29
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Consortia submit offers for Makkah monorail project

Arabian Business reported that Saudi Arabia's Ministry of Municipalities and Rural Affairs is planning to construct a monorail in the holy cities of Makkah, Mina, Muzdalifa and Arafat by 2010. Four monorail tracks will be launched to connect the holy sites.

Consortia including Agility PWC Logistics Consortium, Mada Consortium, Saudi Binladin Consortium and Al-Muhaidib/ACWA (Tarabot) Consortium have presented their financial and technical offers for implementing the project.

The plan is to start work on the project before Hajj in December to guarantee completion in 18 months. The ministry has said that the streets will not be closed during the construction process.

The route for the monorail, which will be operating on highly powerful steel railroads supported by strong concrete pillars, has already been identified. The monorail will be 5.5 meter above the ground and passengers will be able to board or get off by ordinary or electric stairs. The monorail will run at heights of between 8 meter to 10 meter to avoid any obstruction of traffic and pedestrians on the ground. It will also enable residents of Makkah to use it to perform the stoning ritual in Mina.

Dr Habib Zainul Abideen deputy minister of Municipal and Rural Affairs said that "The monorail system is expected to generate annual revenues of SAR 200 million by transporting some one million Hajj pilgrims at a cost of SAR 200 per pilgrim and an additional SAR 150 million from services to Umrah pilgrims charging SAR 50 per pilgrim.”

Mr Hilmi Zaini president of Scomi Engineering said that the Scomi Group was currently studying proposals from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain to set up monorail systems in the region. Mr Hilmi said that "We expect one of these countries to be our base for expansion in the Middle East, just like India and Vietnam are our bases for expansion in South Asia and South-East Asia, respectively.”
Scomi monorail could not be able to handle that much passengers.
Their monorail is too small to handle millions of passengers in few days period.

http://www.scomi.com.my/core/energy_monorail.asp
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Old November 10th, 2008, 12:28 PM   #30
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press report: the expectations of a re-draft the Makkah Monorail for the auction of the short duration of the implementation of two local staff and provide offers worth over 10 billion rials for the project
Figures 10/11/2008

Said a newspaper report that it was likely to introduce a metal Makkah for the auction grounds that the time frame for the implementation of the project is unrealistic note that the two local companies submitted their offers for the project which is estimated to cost 6 billion inception riyals (1.6 billion dollars) over 14 months.

The bulletin cited "Meed" citing sources close to the project that the Saudi Bin Laden Group and Al Harbi Trading and Contracting submitted bids exceed the financial allocations in the budget more than 10 billion riyals.

The Ministry of Municipal and Rural Affairs has invited the two companies to submit their offers, however, that any of the companies did not perform the deadline for bids is the end of last October, says an official of the companies they decided not to enter at the last moment to limit the proportion of the timetable for the implementation of the project, and adds that another Can implement such a project in a city such as Mecca, in a time like this, or 14 months.

According to the bulletin, "Mead," the Saudi ministry is considering the possibility of extending the term of the contract for a period of 10 months for a total duration of 24 months.

The project along the railway is 19 kilometers and aims to link the Mecca region, such as the Holy me and Muzdalifah and Arafat and the absorptive capacity of 19 thousand passengers at the project design contracts by the company "Sistra" (Systra) French.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 03:39 PM   #31
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Mecca monorail deal marks Saudi visit by China's Hu





China has won a contract to build a monorail near Islam's holiest city of Mecca to ferry pilgrims between key religious sites during the hajj, or annual Muslim pilgrimage, Saudi Arabia announced.

The 1.8 billion dollar deal, finalised during Chinese President Hu Jintao's visit to Saudi Arabia, is the second rail project in a week involving Mecca to be awarded to a Chinese railway builder.

The latest agreement, underscoring China's growing role as a key contractor for infrastructure in the oil-rich kingdom, was signed late Tuesday by China Railway Corp and Prince Miteb bin Abdulaziz, head of the commission for developing the holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

On Friday, a consortium including China Railway Engineering won a civil works contract, also worth 1.8 billion dollaras, for a 444-kilometre (275-mile) high-speed railway to link Mecca and Medina via Jeddah.

As a dense sandstorm enveloped Riyadh on Wednesday morning, the Chinese leader visited Riyadh Cement company, which has just contracted China's Sinoma International Engineering to expand its production lines.

In the afternoon, Hu was to meet with Gulf Cooperation Council Secretary General Abdulrahman Hamad al-Attiyah to discuss trade liberalisation measures, GCC officials said.

The Mecca mass transit deal was one of several announced on Hu's visit, highlighting the growing role of China in Saudi Arabia's plan to undertake 450 billion riyals (120 billion dollars) in major infrastructure, education and new cities projects over the next five years.

On Wednesday the Saudi group ACWA Power International, which builds power and desalinisation plants, announced a partnership with Shanghai Electric Power Generation Group to work together on two projects, one inside Saudi Arabia and another in an undisclosed country in the region.

The monorail project will link Mecca with the holy sites of Mina, Arafat and Muzdalifah, which are visited by massive tides of pilgrims during the hajj, the state news agency SPA said.

The project is set to be completed over four years, but will be ready to operate at 35 percent capacity for the hajj of late 2010, SPA said.

According to media reports, the project comprises four elevated tracks intended to carry up to 20,000 passengers an hour.

The Mecca rail link was one of a number of deals signed on Tuesday as Hu and his entourage met with Saudi King Abdullah and leaders of the Saudi government.

"China-Saudi Arabia ties have developed rapidly and reached an all-time high since the heads of states exchanged their visits in 2006," Hu said, according to China's Xinhua news agency.

The two sides also signed an agreement covering cooperation in developing and trade in oil, natural gas, petrochemicals and minerals late Tuesday as China seeks to secure long-term natural resource supplies for its giant economic machine, SPA said.

China is already one of the top buyers of oil from Saudi Arabia, importing 36 million tonnes of Saudi crude in 2008, according to Chinese figures.

Chinese firms are also exploring for new oil deposits inside Saudi Arabia together with the kingdom's state oil company Aramco.

Hu is on the second day of a three-day visit to to shore up economic relations and discuss energy supplies with the world's top oil exporter.

He was scheduled to depart Wednesday and travel to Mali, Senegal, Tanzania and Mauritius as part of efforts to strengthen China's relations with the African continent, an important source of minerals and other raw materials for China and a growing market for Chinese exports.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 02:19 AM   #32
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UPDATE:

-the service length is 18.1 Km (Makkah-Mena-Mozdalefah-Arafat)




- 70% of the rails and the civil works has finished (or 12.2 Km out of 18.1 Km by 1st.SEP.2009).













-number of workers: 2500 .
-the daily work duration: 18 h/d.
-the service elevation above the ground: 5.5 m
-the service is going to operated ( 40% or 60000 passenger per hour) in Hajj 2010 !!!!!!
-the service is going to fully operated ( 100% or 144000 passenger per hour) in Hajj 2012.

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Old September 3rd, 2009, 11:25 AM   #33
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again, great update as usual Rody, thanks and keep it up.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 11:29 AM   #34
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oh my god....they r really fast.....gr8 job rody....
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 05:13 PM   #35
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Thanks for the pics.
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congrats !!! this is amazing
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Old September 4th, 2009, 02:16 AM   #37
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- 70% of the rails and the civil works has finished (or 12.2 Km out of 18.1 Km by 1st.SEP.2009).

This is a picture of an urban maglev train, is the Mecca monorail going to use maglev technology? If so, this is quite significant.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 02:43 AM   #38
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This is a picture of an urban maglev train, is the Mecca monorail going to use maglev technology? If so, this is quite significant.
I doubt it, from my knowledge its a Chinese firm that recieved the contract?

Unless China has its own version of the Maglev which i'm pretty sure it doesn't.

The point isn't so much the speed since the distance is relatively small. The importance should be given to the volume.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 03:24 AM   #39
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Chinese firm got the cotract,but they signed a deal with a french company to import the trains..
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Old September 8th, 2009, 03:57 AM   #40
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Chinese firm got the cotract,but they signed a deal with a french company to import the trains..
yup, but I believe the Shanghai Maglev was provided by Siemens from Germany.
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