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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #81
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Njegoš Mausoleum (Serbian King of Montenegro)



The biggest and most important monument of Lovćen national park is Njegoš's Mausoleum. The location for his burial place and the mausoleum at the summit of Jezerski vrh was chosen by Njegoš himself as his last wish.

However, Njegoš's express wish was to be buried in a small chapel which he had built in his lifetime. This was done, but the original chapel was destroyed when the Austro-Hungarian army invaded Montenegro. Njegoš's remains were then transferred into Cetinje Monastery and buried in the chapel rebuilt by King Alexander in 1920s. Contrary to Njegoš's express wishes to be buried in that chapel, the then communist powers of Montenegro, supported by Mitropolija, destroyed the chapel and built in its stead a monumental mausoleum in Viennese Secession style. The design was that of Ivan Meštrović who, although world-famous, had never set foot on Lovćen.

The protests erupted in 1970 with many famous Yugoslav public figures, of both Montenegrin and non-Montenegrin origin, complaining of what they described as barbaric breaking of Njegoš's last will.
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ha ha ljubomoran hrvat dosao da provocira i da deli narod koji je isti i gde nema razlike. preporucio bi ti da procitas istoriju crnegore i sta je pravi crnogorac. Crna gora je stara srbija i prva srpska pokrajina kad smo dosli u 5 veku na balkan. Pogledaj samo koliko srpski manastira iz 12/13/14 veka ima bilo gde dal na severu ili na moru (Budva/Kotor).
haha, sta ces, nemam pametnijeg posla pa sam dosao provocirati Srbina koji tvrdi da je druga drzava zapravo srpska zemlja, al su se eto ni s pomocu mafije sami odlucili za neovisnost

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U Crnojgori zive 75% Crnogorci ,od toga se gledaju 32% jos kao srbi a 43% (nazalost) kao etnicki crnogorci. 25% su manjine kao 13% bosnjaci, 8% siptara i ostalo hrvati i cigani ali to nisu crnogorci.

Izmedju etnickog crnogorca kako se oni danas nazivaju i srpskog crnogorca nema nijedna ali bas nijedna razlika samo sto se jedan ne gleda vise kao etnicki srbin a drugi se gledjau kao srbi jer su to sve " poreklom" srbi. kad vidis ljude pre 100 godina nijedan se nije nazivao kao etnicki crnogorac.

Nije tebi jasno da je crnogorcima materni jezik srpski i crkva im srpska-pravoslavna. Ono sto Mafija Djukanovic prica i stvara nove sekte i jezike to samo interesuje manjine koje ga podrzavaju. Znaj da nebi bilo 25% siptara,hrvata i bosnjaka da nebi nikad uspeli da dobiju 55%. od pravi crnogoraca su glasali 30% za nezavisnost a 44,5% za zajednicku drzavu. I da nezaboravima da Mafija Djukanovic nije dozvolio 250.000 crnogoraca (srba) koje zive u srbiji da glasaju na referendum. a nekim crnogorcima iz Miami koje nisu posetile 40 godina njenu domovinu platio avion da dodju da glasaju za nezavisnost.

Znas ti uopste koje Njegos? Naj veci Heroj Crnogoraca i jedan od naj veci od svi srba. NA LOVCENU NJEGOS SPAVA NAJ MILIJA SRPSKA GLAVA

I to nema nista sa politikom i nacionalizmom 90tih to je sve cinjenica sta sam sad napisao i svaki "pravi pravoslavni crnogorac" to zna.

Ostalo procitaj ovde ako te interesuje sta je i koje pravi crnogorac...

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ovo nije politicki dio foruma, pa se necu natezati oko ovakvih demagoskih prica. samo znam da Crnogorci koji zive tu u Rijeci i imaju svoju udrugu podrzanu od crnogorske vlade se nikad ne bi slozili sa izjavom da su 'Srbi katolici'. (to sa katolicima Srbima je bila prica u devedesetima i oko Hrvatske...)

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Moze da se kaze crnogorci su srbi a moze isto obrnuto srbi su crnogorci jel je to isti etnicki narod nema veze dal se jedan naziva srpski crnogorac ili etnicki crnogorac. Svi smo mi srbi malo iz crnegore,moju su dosli isto pre 200 godina iz severne crnegore u Sumadiju. Tebi samo zao sto mala crnagora lepsa od cele hrvatske.
Crna Gora je predivna zemlja, sto ove fotografije i potvrđuju, ali za mene nikada nece biti ljepsa od Hrvatske, a mislim da u prilog tome govore i razne liste top destinacija u Europi pa i svijetu, gdje Hrvatska sije i Crnu goru i Srbiju zajedno

da skratim pricu, svaka cast na fotografijama...
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Old October 29th, 2008, 10:01 PM   #83
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I think that we should not argue in that forum on such topics.

What is fact is that Monte Negro is a sovereign country and the introduction should be rewritten. In that logic we should call Macedonia little Bulgaria...
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Old October 29th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #84
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haha, sta ces, nemam pametnijeg posla pa sam dosao provocirati Srbina koji tvrdi da je druga drzava zapravo srpska zemlja, al su se eto ni s pomocu mafije sami odlucili za neovisnost



ovo nije politicki dio foruma, pa se necu natezati oko ovakvih demagoskih prica. samo znam da Crnogorci koji zive tu u Rijeci i imaju svoju udrugu podrzanu od crnogorske vlade se nikad ne bi slozili sa izjavom da su 'Srbi katolici'. (to sa katolicima Srbima je bila prica u devedesetima i oko Hrvatske...)



Crna Gora je predivna zemlja, sto ove fotografije i potvrđuju, ali za mene nikada nece biti ljepsa od Hrvatske, a mislim da u prilog tome govore i razne liste top destinacija u Europi pa i svijetu, gdje Hrvatska sije i Crnu goru i Srbiju zajedno

da skratim pricu, svaka cast na fotografijama...
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ha ha kazem ja da nemas pojma zato nemas nista ni da kazes. Kazem ti ipak trazi sam po netu i znaces da je crnogorac poreklom srbin dal se on danas gleda kao srbin crnogorac ili kao etnicki crnogorac to je nebitno. Jel izmedju tog naroda nema razlike i ti to sam znas. Kako ja znam u 5/6 veku su samo dosli 3 sloveni na Balkan... srbi hrvati i sloveni. Sad mi ti kazi odakle su od jednom dosli crnogorci, mozda sa marsa? xaxaxax To je od zadnje od mene sto sam reko za ovu temu. Uzival dalje uz slimama from the Pearl of Balkan. Nasa lepa crnagora. xexe
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I think that we should not argue in that forum on such topics.

What is fact is that Monte Negro is a sovereign country and the introduction should be rewritten. In that logic we should call Macedonia little Bulgaria...
Montenegro and FYRO Macedonia is not compare my friend. Slavo macedonians are a mix from Serbs and Bulgars and i speak from the etnic not from history,slavo macedonians are official serbian-orthodox, too.

Montenegrins are etnic serbs no mix!! The Ottomans will never be in some landscrapes of Montenegro, the tourists are 90% serbs and Montenegris are serbian-orthodox and speak serbish.
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No, the so called Macedonians are pure Bulgarians and have nothing to do with the Serbs and we can argue on that a lot but that will bring us ban... not to mention Nis, Pirot, the Western Outlands
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Old October 29th, 2008, 10:14 PM   #87
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Berane (North-Eastern Montenegro)

City panorama in the twilight


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ha ha kazem ja da nemas pojma zato nemas nista ni da kazes. Kazem ti ipak trazi sam po netu i znaces da je crnogorac poreklom srbin dal se on danas gleda kao srbin crnogorac ili kao etnicki crnogorac to je nebitno. Jel izmedju tog naroda nema razlike i ti to sam znas. Kako ja znam u 5/6 veku su samo dosli 3 sloveni na Balkan... srbi hrvati i sloveni. Sad mi ti kazi odakle su od jednom dosli crnogorci, mozda sa marsa? xaxaxax To je od zadnje od mene sto sam reko za ovu temu. Uzival dalje uz slimama from the Pearl of Balkan. Nasa lepa crnagora. xexe
sve u redu, ti mozes imati misljenje kakvo hoces, ali u ovakvim slucajevima je bitno imati sluzbeno i objektivno misljenje. dakle sluzbeni stav Crne Gore je takav da oni za sebe kazu da nisu Srbi, pretpostavljam da je isti stav i Srpske vlade (ispravi me sa nekim sluzbenim tekstom, ako nisam u pravu)...

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No NO. I go to Macedonia many times. NO ONE in macedonia say that she is a etnic Bulgar. The slavo macedonians don't like the Bulgarians, Macedonians say they are etnic Macedonians. She like more serbian that bulgarian people.

I have any Friends here in Germany, i ask him and quastion that he come to this forum then you say to him macedonians are bulgars.

Macedonians are a mix fom serbs and bulgars. They are serbian-orthodox and not bulgaria-orthodox. The language of macedonians is also a mix between serbian and bulgarian language.


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sve u redu, ti mozes imati misljenje kakvo hoces, ali u ovakvim slucajevima je bitno imati sluzbeno i objektivno misljenje. dakle sluzbeni stav Crne Gore je takav da oni za sebe kazu da nisu Srbi, pretpostavljam da je isti stav i Srpske vlade (ispravi me sa nekim sluzbenim tekstom, ako nisam u pravu)...

Bitno je sta su oni etnicki, nema veze kako se ko naziva i sta kaze vlada. I ja mogu da kazem da sam afrikanac, ali etnicki sam ipak srbin kao ti hrvat.

Kako sam ti vec reko od 75% crnogoraca u crnojgori se gledau jos 32% kao srbi.

Evo tradicionalna kapa crnegore koja se nosi vekomima.


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Colourful Ostrog

The first thing wish traveller is seeing going through the Upper serbian monastery of Ostrog is colourful building with arcades. This is bulk of monastic cells and pilgrims refuge which is set within part of vertical mountain wall. Hope you enjoy the picture and regards.

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serbian-orthodox church

An old orthodox church in the centre of Herceg Novi. Herceg Novi is a coastal town in Montenegro located at the entrance to the Bay of Kotor and at the foot of Mount Orjen. It has around 17,000 inhabitants, and is the administrative center of Herceg-Novi municipality.

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No NO. I go to Macedonia many times. NO ONE in macedonia say that she is a etnic Bulgar. The slavo macedonians don't like the Bulgarians, Macedonians say they are etnic Macedonians. She like more serbian that bulgarian people.

I have any Friends here in Germany, i ask him and quastion that he come to this forum then you say to him macedonians are bulgars.

Macedonians are a mix fom serbs and bulgars. They are serbian-orthodox and not bulgaria-orthodox. The language of macedonians is also a mix between serbian and bulgarian language.


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Yes, because of the Serbian terror of the Bulgarian population during the occupation between 1913 - 1941. I have many friends here whose grandparents had to leave their houses and property in Macedonia to save their lives from the Serbs.

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Yes, because of the Serbian terror of the Bulgarian population during the occupation between 1913 - 1941. I have many friends here whose grandparents had to leave their houses and property in Macedonia to save their lives from the Serbs.


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No that is wrong! Serbs beat Bulgarians in 2nd Balkan war 1913 but it was no terror or occupation.

Today's FYRO Macedonia was in 13/14 century Serbian Empire, the people were be serbian-orthodox at this time not at 1913. End at 14 century - 1912 FYRO MK was Ottoman Empire and then again Serbian Empire 13-41. In 9/10 century it was Bulgarian Empire. The mix between Serbian and Bulgarian come in this Area 9-14 century, not from 1913-1941!

Today there are no Bulgarians and no Serbians, there are Slavic Macedonians.


Montenegrins is a total another example then Slavic Macedonias or bosnian Muslim's(Serb-Croat-Turk Mix). Montenegrins are really etnic Serbs and no Mix, she speak and wrote serbish and her history is no mix.


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Near Mojkovac

Beautiful Tara streams from east to the west cutting mountains by the deepest canyon of Europe. Mineral salts give specially green tone to the water. The river banks are exceptionally quiet and picturesque. Hope you enjoy the image.

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...where rivers stream

Well remote tiny region (opština) Šavnik is quiet and tranquil place among slopes of Dinaric Alps near Bosnian border. Crystal glacial waters, beatuful views around and clear mountain air make its outskirts worth to visit to treking and cycling. Hope you enjoy the picture.

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Lovcen mountain

If you travel in Montenegro,you must see mount Lovcen.It exist the road to the top,on about 1600meters high.
On the top of mountain is tomb of Montenegro biggest philosoph,poem and monarch
Petar II. Petrović Njegoš.
Mount Lovcen is a region of natural beauty.In clear mornings,you can see big part of Italy from top.

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Karanfili

Amazing Karanfili (2460 m, 2490 m, 2441 m) peaks, most impressive peaks of Montenegrin PROKLETIJE range

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