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Old February 3rd, 2010, 02:52 PM   #61
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My strong hope is that in the future, random cladding will be de-randomised udring building refurbishments. It's a horrible look
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Old February 4th, 2010, 01:49 AM   #62
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The angled internal planning of the tower has produced flat layouts with too many non-orthogonal rooms that will be awkward to furnish. We think that this is an unacceptable arrangement and it seems counterintuitive to create irregular flats within a square tower.
Looks like they took one look at the CABE appraisal and said - "well, let's retain the non-orthongonal plan and make the tower not-square to keep them happy, then"
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Old February 4th, 2010, 03:24 AM   #63
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Random cladding!!

I wish the nimbies luck in blocking this tower completely. Random cladding should be BANNED outright!!
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Old February 10th, 2010, 01:24 AM   #64
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Apologies, obviously this isn't Sky Garden, but it's in Vauxhall, and since St George's, the proposals for this neck of the woods have been coming in thick and fast.

50s, 60s, 70s, even 80s buildings are tumbling down in the City and West End. I hope we'll keep a few representative samples of good stuff - not just Centre Point and RFH.

It's a personal view, but I think this is great. Of its type, of its time, but I wouldn't want to lose it. It's the brave new London I grew up with.


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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:16 AM   #65
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Thats the one next to MI6 isn't it? I quite like this one. Could look quite good converted to resi a bit like the shell centre buildings were. Although it will probably have something else planned for it especially as its right next to the major development hot spot of Vaxuhall & Nine Elms.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #66
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That's right, opposite the Tate. Handsome beast. Another 50 years and people would say, why did they let that go. Like this:



...which has been replaced by this mish-mash (sorry about the trees!):

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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #67
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Shame about the building with the clocktower (forget the name of it) as well. Think thats the site of the red brick tower now. There is some good 20th C stuff along here, most already gone now though. Still at least the old Fire HW is having the facade retained when its up for redevelopment.

Isn't there also a hidden dock on the north side along there somewhere?
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Old February 10th, 2010, 11:12 AM   #68
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Lots of wharves, but I'm not sure there was ever a dock?

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Old February 10th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #69
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This hidden one on the Lambeth side of the river.

http://whitehartdock.wordpress.com/about/
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Old February 10th, 2010, 02:14 PM   #70
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was talking to the original architect about this who first saw the new designs on skyscrapernews. i think he's quite annoyed. there's a lot i won't say but his firm is embarrassed by being associated with carey jones plan apparently to the point he wanted me to make it clear they had nothing to do with it! that's fine by me, i don't think anyone will argue that this design is carey jones' finest moment.
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This hidden one on the Lambeth side of the river.

http://whitehartdock.wordpress.com/about/
Amazing, I never knew about that. Can't find it on any old maps, but here it is.

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Old February 12th, 2010, 12:20 AM   #72
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was talking to the original architect about this who first saw the new designs on skyscrapernews. i think he's quite annoyed. there's a lot i won't say but his firm is embarrassed by being associated with carey jones plan apparently to the point he wanted me to make it clear they had nothing to do with it! that's fine by me, i don't think anyone will argue that this design is carey jones' finest moment.
I dont understand why planning departments allow this to happen. It almost seems like a routine stunt and no one seems to care.
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Old February 12th, 2010, 01:11 AM   #73
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agreed. you have to ask yourself if precedent of the last proposal aside the revised design would get planning permission, and i think the answer is "no." quite sad.
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Old March 11th, 2010, 09:49 PM   #74
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On the Sky Gardens project - scaffolding has just appeared on the Tactica Solutions building which currently occupies the site - apologies for the dodgy photo taken quite late this evening - this is looking along Wandsworth Road towards Vauxhall, you can see the railway bridge at the left, and the tower is Covent Garden's Market Tower.

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It has been empty for ages, and boarded up for more than a year (including for some time featuring a sign from the Royal Bank of Scotland, with the tag line "another dream becoming a commercial reality" - that one was removed soon after RBS more or less collapsed; I presume they are no longer the funder of this development).

The revised design goes to the Lambeth planning committee for decision next week - so the developers have presumably seen the committee report by now.

They'll be either demolishing this, or cleaning it up for a short let (as although scruffy the building is still sound). I suspect the former - as it wouldn't take this much scaffolding to spruce up the building. The Renaissance Rooms next door (famous for the roller disco) are still in business.

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I think your right. Scaffolding to clean a few windows?
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Old March 15th, 2010, 11:11 PM   #76
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Yes - the building is definitely being demolished. Noticed that the roof was missing on the way to work today! This won't leave the whole Sky Garden site clear, but it does clear a fairly large part of it.
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Old March 25th, 2010, 09:44 PM   #77
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Here are some photos from this morning, where all that's left of the poor old Tactica building - which has clearly reached the last chapter! - was a single storey wall.



Another angle here

Here's a view of the rubble, and the remaining scaffolding coming down -



And another



Going past the same location on the bus this evening, the building had gone - just a big heap of rubble. This clears up almost the entire site (I'm not sure if the yard at the back is part of the project, I'd imagine it is - but the single storey building there has not been touched yet).
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Old March 25th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #78
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Update: The most recent planning report for the tower (which secured approval for a revised design last week) is online here - with a helpful map of the site on the first page. It doesn't include the building right next to the railway line - in other words, the entire site for the tower is now clear for construction, and it has planning permission.

The big question now is - do the developers keep the freshly-demolished site on hold for a few years - or do they forge ahead?
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Old April 11th, 2010, 02:37 PM   #79
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Here's a picture of the cleared site. Hoardings have been put up by the demolition contractor (which include a small section of the wall of the old building, at the left), which look fairly medium-term, and the site has been deserted for a week or so.



It could stay like this for weeks - or years. The tower (including the recently revised design) now has full planning permission, and I presume they wanted to get the previous building out of the way as quickly as possible. Partly avoid paying rates on it - but mainly to avoid the it being taken over by squatters - quite a high risk in this part of London, and with the potential to be very expensive if they have a contractor due to start work at any particular date.

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Old September 23rd, 2010, 12:18 AM   #80
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Thanks, my first post on this thread and this tower looks ok, What is it's current status? fully U/C or still on proposal stages?
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