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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #1
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Johannesburg: A Dead City?

OK, these pictures will take you through the CBD of Johannesburg, detailing what is currently happening!

Selling flowers - Braamfontein


Office Space - Braamfontein



Older buildings - Braamfontein


City of Gold - Braamfontein (with one of Braamfontein's tree sculptures)


Lofts - Braamfontein (the fish bowl)


Coffee Break - Braamfontein
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #2
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Now Braamfontein is the less dense part of the CBD. From here we move into the denser parts.

The Library


Library Hotel and Avril Malan Buildings: Both examples of the neglect and grime that almost brought the city to its knees during the 1990's. Both of these are currently being restored.



Old Turbine Hall/ power station in Newtown - now headquarters of AgloAshanti





Graffiti - Newtown


Lunch - Newtown


Coffee in Loveday Street - Marshalltown


Ghandi Transport Square
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:18 PM   #3
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Reflections




Before (Picture taken in 2005)

After


2005 - street corner


On the streets, 2008


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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #4
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nice pics!
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:21 PM   #5
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Renovations



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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #6
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Eloff street before - this was once Johannesburg's 5th ave, with all the expensive boutiques...



Eloff street today - not the same prominence as during the 1970's, but much better than 10years ago




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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:28 PM   #7
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Sidewalk cafe's like this almost did not exist 10years ago








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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:59 PM   #8
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Street scenes from Johannesburg. We don't see them every day here.
I've read Johannesburg has got one of the highest murder rates in the world....A dead city?...
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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:20 PM   #9
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When I was in Chicago I met someone from Johannesburg. He said it was as safe as Chicago, Toronto or New York and like any big city you just have to be aware of your surroundings. Is this true? Based on these photos I see very little street activity and little diversity from what people are present.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:30 PM   #10
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When I was in Chicago I met someone from Johannesburg. He said it was as safe as Chicago, Toronto or New York and like any big city you just have to be aware of your surroundings. Is this true? Based on these photos I see very little street activity and little diversity from what people are present.
I'd say these photos are taken in some bad areas.
I wish the poster would have posted photos of Sandton - Johannesburg's most eclectic & happening area. But I'd definitely say that Toronto, NY or Chicago (although I've never been to Chi-town) are much safer than Johannesburg. JHB is a massive, spread-out city, so there's far less pedestrian activity. People drive to get to places.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:42 PM   #11
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these are great! i'm glad to see all of the refurbishment in downtown Johannesburg
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Old October 9th, 2008, 07:08 PM   #12
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More pics from Jo'burg, please...
By the way, someone forgot to say how high the city's elevation is.
I think it's 6,000 feet - could that be possible?
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More pics from Jo'burg, please...
By the way, someone forgot to say how high the city's elevation is.
I think it's 6,000 feet - could that be possible?
Elevation 1,753 m (5,751 ft)

Wikipedia helps.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 07:24 PM   #14
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When will the urban scenes reach their former level. Considering time passed of course
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No offence to Sandton, but is that not where the White community hangs out?
If we were to show street life of pics of Sandton would all colors of the rainbow be present?
Just checking ...

By the way 1753 meters is a pretty high elevation. I bet the weather is great there, no?
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Elevation 1,753 m (5,751 ft)
That high! Wow!
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Nice Johannesburg thread!
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Nice to see that downtown is being refurbished, it doesn't look nearly as dangerous as I thought. It shows that Johannesburg is more than its suburbs, you mostly see pictures of Sandton and other wealthy areas.
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So my friend was lying about Jo-burg. Is there an Indian population like Durban?
Where is the gay neighborhood in Johannesburg? Does Johannesburg have a subway?

Based on Chopsky's comments Jo-Burg is probably more like Houston? Or is it is like a mostly African Manhattan?
I am wondering which US city Jo-Burg is most like.
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So my friend was lying about Jo-burg. Is there an Indian population like Durban?
Where is the gay neighborhood in Johannesburg? Does Johannesburg have a subway?

Based on Chopsky's comments Jo-Burg is probably more like Houston? Or is it is like a mostly African Manhattan?
I am wondering which US city Jo-Burg is most like.
There are no subways in South Africa. Public transport is quite substandard to say the least. There's a train system, but it's quite run down. Taxis are the best bet. To be honest, as a tourist, Johannesburg is absolutely useless. It's way too spread out, so you would need a car, and then you'd need to know where you were going. People live there to make money. It has a great night life in certain parts, but there really isn't a whole lot to do. I wouldn't recommend going there. Cape Town rather, is the place to be. Constantly voted as one of the Top 10 tourist destinations of the world. Truly a spectacular city. Tons to do and it's ridiculously beautiful. As for gay neighborhoods, Cape Town is one of the gay capitals of the world, so if that matters to you, you have that too People live in Johannesburg because there's more business opportunity available there. As a tourist, I think you'd be wasting your time. Cape Town is essentially a slice of Europe set in Africa, with some of the best beaches in the world, an amazing wine-route, great shopping, a great nightlife , a diverse range of people and phenomenal food.

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