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Here's the KiwiRail press release on the new locos and carriages. Contains some bits not in he Beehive press release.
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An insider who works at the railway workshops in Chch (passenger carriage maintenance) says that the Tranzalpine is the only real money making long distance service in the country. The Picton-Chch route is OK in summer and very marginal at best in winter.
Not sure on the overlander as he didn't have anything to do with that, but at beast I'd say it would be similar perhaps to the Picton-Chch route maybe slightly worse. What will be good is that these new carriages will mean the other existing carriages can be used as trial start up services on other regional lines, perhaps a new southerner and a new service to the bay cities, whangarei, rotorua and others. |
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My informants tell me that it has now improved to marginal profitability since the outcry over closing the service.
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http://www.times-age.co.nz/localnews...ondsubsection=
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Does that mean that the only real trains using the Upper Hutt to Masterton Line are the passenger trains?It would be a shame to see any more line closures in NZ... Even if lines do get closed, they should only be mothballed so that at least some point in the future, it can be reopened if circumstances allow. |
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There is a weekday freight between Wellington and Masterton for a sawmill, and another (but I'm not sure how often) between Pahiatua and Palmerston North for the dairy factory. There is one train a week that uses the whole length that goes to Palmerston North from Wellington.
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Well isn't this a bit of an unusual turn for a right wing government.... I bet ACT's Roger Douglas would have a word or three to say about it hehehe.
Govt considering new electric trains - report Last updated 07:16 16/03/2009 The government is considering buying new electric commuter trains for Auckland and Wellington in a move that would avoid councils having to increase rates to pay for them, it was reported today. The New Zealand Herald said it had obtained a letter from Transport Minister Steven Joyce to Auckland Regional Council chairman Mike Lee in which the minister said it "made sense" for KiwiRail to buy and own all new passenger trains planned for the two cities. It would allow the Government to ditch a regional fuel tax, which would have paid for the electrification of Auckland's system, without forcing councils to raise rates. The letter was in response to Mr Lee's concerns about how electrification would be paid for without the fuel tax, which would have raised $496 million for the Auckland project. The Government is expected to confirm this week that it is abandoning the plan for a regional fuel tax. - NZPA |
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Yeah very surprising really.... the petrol tax money was needed for other stuff too though - like integrated ticketing and the Penlink Road. Wonder what happens with them now?
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I do agree in principle with Stephen Joyce that increasing the national fuel tax is administratively far easier to manage than having various councils all doing "their own thing"
But note that much of that extra money is going to Auckland and Wellington... Yet again, Christchurch, which was also very close to pushing ahead with regional fuel taxation, will largely miss out since their projects will have to be contested along with all others in other regions - which, as has been proven previously, will mean Christchurch will actually get nothing, and Auckland will get it instead. |
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I'd be hacked off too if I lived in ChCh. Don't blame us Aucklanders though, we were quite happy to pay for the Regional Fuel Tax. Consultation undertaken by the ARC clearly showed that.
We're getting pretty screwed here too, potentially losing integrated ticketing and the like.
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Integrated ticketing could still quite easily happen, with the debt require d to implement the project serviced by a small increase to ARC rates.
Although I don't like the idea of paying more rates (as I still own property in Auckland), this is a worthwhile cause on the whole. IMO, ARTA are using this as an opportunity for political grandstanding. They just need to get on with the job.
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The thing I find irritating is that local and regional governments are effectively having their power taken away from them by interference by the central government. This is something that National accused Labour of, and now they're actually being worse than Labour in this regard!
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Indeed.... this is tremendous stomping of local/regional government. Perhaps Wellington is really really worried about the power a super-city would have, so is looking to chop local/regional power off at the knees ASAP.
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That's weird. They're cost-cutting all over the place, but when an acceptable means of funding something without digging into their coffers pops up (regional fuel tax), they go and say they'll fund it from the (recession-hit) government kitty instead?
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Especially if a Ken Livingstone-type candidate obtains the Greater Auckland mayoral chains.
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I dunno deepred. Auckland has swung towards the right in recent years, sadly. It is the only large city in NZ to probably have a centre-right majority. Hopefully we don't end up with John Banks as supreme ruler of us.
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I wonder how much money collectively around all the councils has been wasted progressing with projects under a regional fuel tax scheme, only to be undone by central government? I would say quite a few million dollars - enough to build the Kopu Bridge, the Rotorua Eastern Arterial, the Katikati bypass and possibly more. The one saving grace in all of this for the rest of the country is that the two geographically ideal locations for toll roads are in Auckland and Wellington - so hopefully this will be used extensively in those areas so that it frees up money for the rest of NZ. |
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Funding for the Wairarapa log freight project has been approved, according to this: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/newsroom/fun...ltp-table.html .
I've found other stuff about the "Central Log Rail" project, it seems to include more than just Masterton, also Marton and Wanganui. There is also some other interesting bits from this website; http://www.wwcl.co.nz/projects/central_log_rail.htm Quote:
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