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Old October 21st, 2008, 06:23 PM   #101
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When I think about it, it isn't that confusing, it's not like any sign suggests overtaking is mandatory. You just use some logic, if you aren't sure, whether a sign prohibits sth, or ends a prohibition (which you should've notice before).
Yeah, to tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever actually seen the "no overtaking" sign here in Ontario. I think it exists mostly because apparently (and the theory book doesn't even make this completely clear) in Ontario the lane marking (solid/broken) is only advisory - in other words, if you overtake by crossing a solid middle divider and it is safe, then you cannot be fined (although probably if you cause an accident this fact will be used against you). Of course, it is rarely a good idea to overtake where there is a solid line, since the line would be solid on sections where overtaking is not safe, like in Europe. So I think this sign exists to provide an absolute prohibition on overtaking, but I don't think it is common - as I said before, I've never seen it yet in Southern Ontario.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 06:47 PM   #102
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The pictorial "No overtaking" sign is up and doing well in British Columbia because I have seen it numerous times on 2x1 roads (Fraser Highway and Sea-to-Sky Highway to name a few). You get used to it rather quickly and recognise it instantly afterwards.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 10:13 PM   #103
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I took several pictures of two T-shaped perpendicular intersections with YIELD signs. It is certainly an oddity in the USA as of today.





I hope because of the new MUTCD we will see more intersections like this.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 10:15 PM   #104
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I prefer to see this:

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Old October 23rd, 2008, 10:20 PM   #105
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What about it? The road marking? It is used occasionally in the USA too, but I prefer to see a broken line instead of triangles.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 10:23 PM   #106
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Yeah the road marking. It makes the right-of-way situation much more clear. You easily can miss a roadsign (sometimes there are too much of them, or obscured by trees or weed), and you usually don't miss the pavement. It also clearly markes the intersection exactly. Regular lines are too standard.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 10:40 PM   #107
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I agree about marking. I wish it was used more often over here.

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Old October 23rd, 2008, 11:14 PM   #108
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Those so called "shark teeth" are quite handy if you want to know whether you have to stop or not. This can also give tricky situations. In my town a pedestrian path and a bike path cross a road next to each other. Cars have to stop for pedestrians, but bikes have to stop for cars. Sometimes, drivers don't know what to do as well. I cross the road there by bike very much, and I always stop for approaching cars. However, mostly the cars stop for me. Very nice of the drivers, but the drivers also get fooled by the tricky situation and think that bikes go first. Conclusion: shark teeth are handy, when applied in a handy way.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 09:36 AM   #109
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When added in a proper and consistent way, shark teeth should not lead to confusion at all.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 09:47 AM   #110
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Well, they're not added in a proper way on that crossing in my town
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Old October 24th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #111
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Salt Lake City doesn't have too many yield signs but I don't think I'd call them rare; I've seen several.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 08:08 PM   #112
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Ireland, for instance uses a different pictogram system to the rest of Europe, yet I don't think it's that arrogant (it was blatantly done to be different to the UK, though) as it's easy to pick up as it's the same kind of system as elsewhere.
Irish signage was designed in the 1950s before the European practice was fully harmonised. It was different from the UK, not to be different, but to be better. The UK themselves dumped most of their signage a few years later, but blatantly made their new signs different than those in Ireland.

UK signage not copied in Ireland
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About the give way lines i prefer the Brtish version:

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Old October 25th, 2008, 12:41 AM   #114
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About the give way lines i prefer the Brtish version:

I also prefer broken lines and a big triangle in advance, but I would be happy with whatever marking they put here as long as they use YIELDs and not stupid unnecessary STOPs.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 02:41 AM   #115
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I like the sharks teeth.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 05:28 PM   #116
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Me too. They give a clear indication which side goes first and which side has to wait.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 02:06 PM   #117
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Me too. They give a clear indication which side goes first and which side has to wait.
And they differ from the full stop line which accompany the "STOP" sign, making road marking and signs work together.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 03:47 AM   #118
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Yield sign frequency in the US varies greatly from state to state. My home state of Alabama uses them almost universally as intersection control signs in residential neighborhoods (and has done so for a long time), whereas here in Illinois, everything is a stop sign.

I have to constantly remember to stop (and look for cops) at intersections before proceeding, whereas in Alabama, I'd just slow down, look both ways, and then cruise on through.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 03:52 AM   #119
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I don't think cops around here enforce that law.

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Old October 28th, 2008, 03:36 AM   #120
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I think the reasoning why North America hasn't adopted the European-style blue signage is that here blue has a different significance.

Red signs are regulatory (stop, do not enter, etc.)
Orange signs are for construction or temporary (detours)
Yellow signs are cautionary
Green signs are for information
Blue signs are institutional (schools, hospitals, etc.)
Brown signs are touristic (information, gas stations, restaurants, hotels, etc.)
Black and white signs are obligatory (speed limit, one way, etc.)
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