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Old January 31st, 2009, 05:28 PM   #81
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what rebellion in london or the south was this?
There were no notable rebellions in London except immediately after the conquest. This doesn't detract from the fact that the motivation of the Tower's construction was protecting William and the other colonialists from the citizens of the City of London who were expected to be hostile.
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Old January 31st, 2009, 05:43 PM   #82
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The prior fortifications were Roman Walls designed to defend the city from external attack. The Norman castle was designed to keep watch over and intimidate the Saxon population of London.

Any interpretation that William's claim on the throne was legal is a distortion of the events. His claim was based on right of conquest nothing more and the same men who made up the Witan which made him the 'legal' ruler of England rose up against him once he returned to Normandy. As for resistance against Norman rule, while the most famous occurance was in the north, many places including parts of the south did not surrender and had to be forced to yield.

I have no useful comments to make about the American embassy.
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Old February 1st, 2009, 12:47 PM   #83
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There's a distinct whiff of pedantry in this thread
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 01:50 PM   #84
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i agree entirely luke except it IS legal. if william's claim is NOT legal than the house of windsor has no claim to the throne today and our current government has no legal basis in existing!
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 08:16 PM   #85
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"fact of the matter is william WAS the legal king of england. the americans are not."

I never knew the Americans were claiming to be the legal king of England. Still, what with Tony Blair, ah, assuming the position for the last eight years I can see where you'd be confused.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 11:39 PM   #86
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anyone else uncomfortable with a foreign power building what is effectively a castle in the middle of our capital?
Not at all, Its the USA. We are have a very health political relationship with them which is very beneficial.

I read a snippet in BD last friday that Boris et al have effectively set a height limit (not specified) on the new embassy so that the American flag may not be seen from Parliament Square. Hmmm, wonder what that Stars n Stripes thingy is that's highly visible on the top of Shell Mex House..?
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 09:54 PM   #87
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With Harold dead they didnt have much choice and since English continued to revolt we can safely say that general population wasnt too happy about William being their king.
He was appointed Edward the Confessor's heir while Edward was still alive.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 09:58 PM   #88
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Indeed before the conquest The English called him William the Bastard hardly a nice name to call your king dont you think?
Everyone called him 'William the Bastard', on account of his being a bastard - ie. his parents were not married. It was a legal term and carried a legal status; for a start, he couldn't become a priest.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 06:56 PM   #89
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[QUOTE=the spliff fairy;30587744]

(the original site before the war)
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This view is from the west side of the gate looking southwest, not the east side on Pariser Platz.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 08:49 PM   #90
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^ That gate needs some swastikas and a panzer parade to look complete.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 08:56 PM   #91
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Old February 12th, 2009, 01:15 AM   #92
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That is a huge lump of a building though. Its like attaching plantation place to the Bank of England. Shows how even back then mistakes were made.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 05:27 PM   #93
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(the original site before the war)
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This view is from the west side of the gate looking southwest, not the east side on Pariser Platz.
same angle today:

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US unveils Battersea embassy plan
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The US government was today set to reveal the first plans for its new embassy on the banks of the Thames in Battersea, south London.

An outline planning application was submitted to Wandsworth Borough Council this week.

It is thought that the application gives an indication of the plot of land and potential height of the embassy.

The embassy has set up a website for the plans (pictured above), as an aid to the public consultation that it has undertaken and will continue to undertake.

It proposes a building of between 440,000 sq ft and 540,000 sq ft, along with three entrance pavilions.

The embassy also lodged a detailed application for the relocation of a road.

The embassy is moving from Grosvenor Square in central London.

It is buying a 5 acre plot from Ballymore, which owns the surrounding site in the Nine Elms opportunity area.

The embassy hopes to submit a detailed planning application next year, after selecting an architect by early 2010.

Four US architects have been shortlisted to design the embassy: Richard Meier & Partners, PEI Cobb Freed, Kieran Timberlake and Morphosis Architects.

The embassy is due to move in 2016 if the process continues smoothly.

Chelsfield Partners is in talks to buy the Grosvenor Square building.





http://www.newusembassy-london.co.uk/index.php
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Old May 8th, 2009, 05:26 PM   #95
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Something tells me those images are not for reproduction and I may be in trouble with the FBI...
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Pedestrians won't be allowed anywhere near it. The whole complex will be a 24hr fortress.
That plaza's outside the complex.
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Old May 9th, 2009, 02:33 AM   #96
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I see where it is now, Quiet big isnt it.
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Old May 9th, 2009, 02:40 AM   #97
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500,000 sqft, about the size of this-

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Old May 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #98
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Be a bit ironic if this appears behind the Palace of Westminster from the view everyone was horrified about when the Battersea Tower was proposed.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 10:35 PM   #100
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renderings that always highlight the street furniture, people and the trees (that obscure too) than the buildings themselves, which seem to have some kind of faded wash into the background, always worry me. What are they trying to detract from?




...or even omit the complex entirely:

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