US Embassy | Wandsworth | Prep - Page 5

BenL · January 31st, 2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicform

what rebellion in london or the south was this?

There were no notable rebellions in London except immediately after the conquest. This doesn't detract from the fact that the motivation of the Tower's construction was protecting William and the other colonialists from the citizens of the City of London who were expected to be hostile.

Luke · January 31st, 2009, 04:43 PM

The prior fortifications were Roman Walls designed to defend the city from external attack. The Norman castle was designed to keep watch over and intimidate the Saxon population of London.

Any interpretation that William's claim on the throne was legal is a distortion of the events. His claim was based on right of conquest nothing more and the same men who made up the Witan which made him the 'legal' ruler of England rose up against him once he returned to Normandy. As for resistance against Norman rule, while the most famous occurance was in the north, many places including parts of the south did not surrender and had to be forced to yield.

I have no useful comments to make about the American embassy.

The Sage · February 1st, 2009, 11:47 AM

There's a distinct whiff of pedantry in this thread

***gothicform*** · February 2nd, 2009, 12:50 PM

i agree entirely luke except it IS legal. if william's claim is NOT legal than the house of windsor has no claim to the throne today and our current government has no legal basis in existing!

WrightTurn · February 2nd, 2009, 07:16 PM

"fact of the matter is william WAS the legal king of england. the americans are not."

I never knew the Americans were claiming to be the legal king of England. Still, what with Tony Blair, ah, assuming the position for the last eight years I can see where you'd be confused.

Ciudad Bristol · February 2nd, 2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicform

anyone else uncomfortable with a foreign power building what is effectively a castle in the middle of our capital?

Not at all, Its the USA. We are have a very health political relationship with them which is very beneficial.

I read a snippet in BD last friday that Boris et al have effectively set a height limit (not specified) on the new embassy so that the American flag may not be seen from Parliament Square. Hmmm, wonder what that Stars n Stripes thingy is that's highly visible on the top of Shell Mex House..?

frostedspikes · February 3rd, 2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Greco

With Harold dead they didnt have much choice and since English continued to revolt we can safely say that general population wasnt too happy about William being their king.

He was appointed Edward the Confessor's heir while Edward was still alive.

frostedspikes · February 3rd, 2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Greco

Indeed before the conquest The English called him William the Bastard hardly a nice name to call your king dont you think?

Everyone called him 'William the Bastard', on account of his being a bastard - ie. his parents were not married. It was a legal term and carried a legal status; for a start, he couldn't become a priest.

JGiessel · February 11th, 2009, 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=the spliff fairy;30587744]

(the original site before the war)

[\/]

This view is from the west side of the gate looking southwest, not the east side on Pariser Platz.

Langur · February 11th, 2009, 07:49 PM

^ That gate needs some swastikas and a panzer parade to look complete.

El_Greco · February 11th, 2009, 07:56 PM

gazzab1990 · February 12th, 2009, 12:15 AM

That is a huge lump of a building though. Its like attaching plantation place to the Bank of England. Shows how even back then mistakes were made.

the spliff fairy · February 12th, 2009, 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=JGiessel;32139042]

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Originally Posted by the spliff fairy

(the original site before the war)

[\/]

This view is from the west side of the gate looking southwest, not the east side on Pariser Platz.

same angle today:

london lad · May 8th, 2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by london lad

US unveils Battersea embassy plan
Propertyweek
08.05.09

The US government was today set to reveal the first plans for its new embassy on the banks of the Thames in Battersea, south London.

An outline planning application was submitted to Wandsworth Borough Council this week.

It is thought that the application gives an indication of the plot of land and potential height of the embassy.

The embassy has set up a website for the plans (pictured above), as an aid to the public consultation that it has undertaken and will continue to undertake.

It proposes a building of between 440,000 sq ft and 540,000 sq ft, along with three entrance pavilions.

The embassy also lodged a detailed application for the relocation of a road.

The embassy is moving from Grosvenor Square in central London.

It is buying a 5 acre plot from Ballymore, which owns the surrounding site in the Nine Elms opportunity area.

The embassy hopes to submit a detailed planning application next year, after selecting an architect by early 2010.

Four US architects have been shortlisted to design the embassy: Richard Meier & Partners, PEI Cobb Freed, Kieran Timberlake and Morphosis Architects.

The embassy is due to move in 2016 if the process continues smoothly.

Chelsfield Partners is in talks to buy the Grosvenor Square building.

http://www.newusembassy-london.co.uk/index.php

Officer Dibble · May 8th, 2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer Dibble

http://www.newusembassy-london.co.uk/

Something tells me those images are not for reproduction and I may be in trouble with the FBI...

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Originally Posted by DarJoLe

Pedestrians won't be allowed anywhere near it. The whole complex will be a 24hr fortress.

That plaza's outside the complex.

delores · May 9th, 2009, 02:33 AM

I see where it is now, Quiet big isnt it.

Comdot · May 9th, 2009, 02:40 AM

500,000 sqft, about the size of this-

DarJoLe · May 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM

Be a bit ironic if this appears behind the Palace of Westminster from the view everyone was horrified about when the Battersea Tower was proposed.

fitz44 · July 24th, 2009, 04:23 PM

http://mayor.london.gov.uk/mayor/pla...ite_report.pdf

the spliff fairy · July 24th, 2009, 10:35 PM

renderings that always highlight the street furniture, people and the trees (that obscure too) than the buildings themselves, which seem to have some kind of faded wash into the background, always worry me. What are they trying to detract from?

...or even omit the complex entirely:

January 31st, 2009, 04:43 PM	#82
Luke Blackboard Monitor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,303 Likes (Received): 0	The prior fortifications were Roman Walls designed to defend the city from external attack. The Norman castle was designed to keep watch over and intimidate the Saxon population of London. Any interpretation that William's claim on the throne was legal is a distortion of the events. His claim was based on right of conquest nothing more and the same men who made up the Witan which made him the 'legal' ruler of England rose up against him once he returned to Normandy. As for resistance against Norman rule, while the most famous occurance was in the north, many places including parts of the south did not surrender and had to be forced to yield. I have no useful comments to make about the American embassy. __________________ The latest movie reviews - www.sharemypopcorn.co.uk

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May 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM	#98
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,667 Likes (Received): 394	Be a bit ironic if this appears behind the Palace of Westminster from the view everyone was horrified about when the Battersea Tower was proposed. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

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February 1st, 2009, 11:47 AM	#83
The Sage I want my LBT Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,562 Likes (Received): 0	There's a distinct whiff of pedantry in this thread

February 2nd, 2009, 12:50 PM	#84
*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,207 Likes (Received): 493	i agree entirely luke except it IS legal. if william's claim is NOT legal than the house of windsor has no claim to the throne today and our current government has no legal basis in existing!

February 2nd, 2009, 07:16 PM	#85
WrightTurn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 367 Likes (Received): 5	"fact of the matter is william WAS the legal king of england. the americans are not." I never knew the Americans were claiming to be the legal king of England. Still, what with Tony Blair, ah, assuming the position for the last eight years I can see where you'd be confused.

February 11th, 2009, 05:56 PM	#89
JGiessel JMG Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tacoma Posts: 1 Likes (Received): 0	[QUOTE=the spliff fairy;30587744] (the original site before the war) [\/] This view is from the west side of the gate looking southwest, not the east side on Pariser Platz.

February 11th, 2009, 07:49 PM	#90
Langur Londinium langur Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London Posts: 8,221 Likes (Received): 90	^ That gate needs some swastikas and a panzer parade to look complete.

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gazzab1990 SPAMMED Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 2,224 Likes (Received): 2	That is a huge lump of a building though. Its like attaching plantation place to the Bank of England. Shows how even back then mistakes were made.

May 9th, 2009, 02:33 AM	#96
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,563 Likes (Received): 25	I see where it is now, Quiet big isnt it.

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Comdot Taikun Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 10,199 Likes (Received): 0	500,000 sqft, about the size of this-

July 24th, 2009, 10:35 PM	#100
the spliff fairy ONE WORLD Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: london Posts: 7,173 Likes (Received): 249	renderings that always highlight the street furniture, people and the trees (that obscure too) than the buildings themselves, which seem to have some kind of faded wash into the background, always worry me. What are they trying to detract from? ...or even omit the complex entirely: