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Old July 10th, 2009, 10:57 PM   #101
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The 60´s were the decade of the biggest architectural murders in the whole history!!!

I hate those big squared glass blockssss!!!
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Old July 11th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #102
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Well, enjoy it while you can because even that concrete mess will be going soon. There are mixed feeling about it's replacement but it's got to better than what's there now.
Thank God! Anything will be better!
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Old July 11th, 2009, 05:28 PM   #103
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This thread is really terrifying

Also in Belgium "they" have done terrifying mistakes...
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Old July 19th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #104
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I thought I should also add San Juan to the mix







In its place today, the Covadonga parking facility as a monument to the automobile.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 03:59 AM   #105
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Speaking of New York Penn, I recently found digitized documents pertaining to the original Penn Station at the Internet Archive. There are a number of documents, including this one:

http://www.archive.org/details/pennsylvaniastat00penn

about the original station. It has many great pictures and detailed information about the station. All of these documents were originally published by the Pennsylvania Railroad to celebrate the station's completion in 1910. It's really fascinating stuff!
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 04:50 AM   #106
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What a Shame
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Old November 4th, 2009, 01:13 AM   #107
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The narrowmindedness of some of the US "urban planners" is simply shocking.
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Old November 14th, 2009, 01:54 PM   #108
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Brussels:

the first Brussels-North station (1846) , designed by F. Coppens and situated on Rogier Place. It had 27 tracks.

In 1952 a new Brussels-North station was built to link with the North-South Connection. The old station was razed in 1955.





now:

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The Brussels south railway station designed by Payen opened in 1869, In 1949 the railway station was demolished and replaced by the current yellow building with the clock tower because of the North-South connection project.





now:





Because of the North-South connection we got an underground Central trainstation designed by Victor Horta and inaugurated in 1952 , it lies midway between the other main stations Bruxelles-Midi / Brussel-Zuid and Bruxelles-Nord / Brussel-Noord.

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Old November 14th, 2009, 04:47 PM   #109
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Vienna Südbahnhof

From this



to this....



but thank god will be replaced soon

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Old November 15th, 2009, 04:01 PM   #110
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Apart from the absolute madness that occurred in the United States, the Brussels situation is probably the saddest. It's now a city without a single 19th century station. Belgium as a whole is packed with them, but the station most tourists see is a utilitarian 1990s thing with the charm of a big box store.
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Old November 15th, 2009, 05:29 PM   #111
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I would like to add this loss:

Riga Central Station (Riga, Lativia)
Rīgas Centrālā Stacija [in latvian]

1861 - 1954




1954 - ~2000
A box in the soviet 50ties style




~2000 - now
Not a station anymore - now a shoping center



Future mega project (not approved jet)

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Old November 15th, 2009, 10:16 PM   #112
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Oh wow, Riga's case is pretty sad as well

I guess it partly all comes down to the "style of the moment" which defined how people liked their stations. I don't see that as an excuse to break down stations though...

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Old November 29th, 2009, 02:11 AM   #113
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Here's a lost treasure from Minneapolis... the Great Northern Depot.



You can see the sign showing the railroads that serviced the depot in 1949: Chicago, Burlington, and Quincy, the Chicago and Northwestern, the Chicago Great Western, the Northern Pacific, and of course, the Great Northern.


How one artist foresaw Minneapolis looking with a plethora of classical architecture with a distinctly European feel.

The Depot was razed in 1978 and lay vacant for a number of years before the 3rd and current Federal Reserve Bank was built on the site:


Luckily St. Paul's Union Depot was not demolished and was purchased by Ramsey County to be rehabilitated and reused as an intermodal rail hub connecting commuter, long distance rail, light rail, and bus service in downtown St. Paul.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 02:27 AM   #114
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Great thread and amazing photos. But good lord is it depressing. I wish we (Columbus) still had out station!! =-0(
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Old November 29th, 2009, 07:10 PM   #115
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Apart from the absolute madness that occurred in the United States, the Brussels situation is probably the saddest. It's now a city without a single 19th century station. Belgium as a whole is packed with them, but the station most tourists see is a utilitarian 1990s thing with the charm of a big box store.
Well, 19th century buildings have may be disappeared (as they also have
in Berlin, Munchen, and a lot of others) but at least, you are now able to
cross the country by train without having to alight at a terminal station,
take a cab or metro ride, and board another train to continue your trip.
This is what happens for example with Paris, which has indeed retained its
old stations, but at the price of a totally inefficient service. Between both
situations, if you ask me, my choice is quickly done !
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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:02 AM   #116
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Well, 19th century buildings have may be disappeared (as they also have
in Berlin, Munchen, and a lot of others) but at least, you are now able to
cross the country by train without having to alight at a terminal station,
take a cab or metro ride, and board another train to continue your trip.
This is what happens for example with Paris, which has indeed retained its
old stations, but at the price of a totally inefficient service. Between both
situations, if you ask me, my choice is quickly done !
First of all, mine isn't! Second, look at Antwerp-Centraal. It is possible to have one's cake and eat it too. But it would have been nice if one of those lovely Brussels stations had at least survived, even as a museum a la Gare d'Orsay. It is rather brutal to just raze everything down for the sake of trimming five minutes off the itinerary.

And Paris, like London, is such a major destination city that it can probably be excused having twelve major terminal stations — lest they are properly linked, of course. If Paris were to trade all of them in for a single through station, it would surely be the busiest, biggest, craziest station on the planet.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:22 AM   #117
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First of all, mine isn't! Second, look at Antwerp-Centraal. It is possible to have one's cake and eat it too. But it would have been nice if one of those lovely Brussels stations had at least survived, even as a museum a la Gare d'Orsay. It is rather brutal to just raze everything down for the sake of trimming five minutes off the itinerary.

And Paris, like London, is such a major destination city that it can probably be excused having twelve major terminal stations — lest they are properly linked, of course. If Paris were to trade all of them in for a single through station, it would surely be the busiest, biggest, craziest station on the planet.
The chance of Antwerp is that the link to the North that has recently been
added is underground, so it has been possible to keep the building atop of
it. In Brussels, the North-South link above ground near the North and South
stations, which left no possibility to preserve the old buildings.

And if you want to see how one can supress all termini in a major city, just
look how it has been done in Berlin...
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:46 AM   #118
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I couldn't say that it was a truly beautiful station

The gare Montparnasse opened in 1840

Gare Montparnasse


Famous accident


The station was rebuilt in 1960's





Honestly I prefer the modern station, even if I admit that it is ugly.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:48 AM   #119
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The chance of Antwerp is that the link to the North that has recently been
added is underground, so it has been possible to keep the building atop of
it. In Brussels, the North-South link above ground near the North and South
stations, which left no possibility to preserve the old buildings.

And if you want to see how one can supress all termini in a major city, just
look how it has been done in Berlin...
With all due respect to Berlin, which did a fine and necessary job with its Hauptbahnhof, there is no way I would trade the Paris situation for one giant glass box in a dead area of town like that. (And neither would the Parisians.) Talk about killing the romance of rail travel.

On top of that, Paris probably sees a lot more train traffic than Berlin. So that would be one big glass box!

And if Brussels' north-south link were created today, they would probably not go about it the same way. Obviously, their one and only shot at functional rail infrastructure did not depend on the demolition of those stations. They did that because in the 1950s, people weren't too attached to 19th century architecture anyway. I think we've established that much in this thread!

Similarly, if Antwerp had gotten its north-south link in the 1950s, they might not have been quite as careful either. It's disturbing to think about.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 05:16 AM   #120
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The cases above would not be more TERRIBLE like following two cases in Taiwan...


TRA (Taiwan Railways Administration) Taipei Station :

The 4th old station, built in 1940 (Japanese Era), demolished in 1986.

Present "PIZZA-HxT-like" station, built in 1989...What a UNAESTHETIC central station of the capital city !!



TRA Keelung (A port city located northeast of Taipei) Station :

The 2nd old station, built in 1908 (Japanese Era), demolished in 1965.


Present station, built in 1967...Another POOR POOR UGLY structure !!
(Fortunately, a redevelopment plan including this station might be proceeded in future years)
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