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Old October 21st, 2008, 10:27 PM   #41
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This is supposedly Government House and Riverside Drive in 1968
Thats the top of Lawson Apartments

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The Foreshore sand mounds again, new Mount Eliza Apartments, he states January 1967, but it wasn't officially finished until 1968
From this angle it gives the illusion that Mt Eliza Apartments (or the giant spark-plug as I used to call it as a child) is at the same level as the reclaimed foreshore.
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Old October 22nd, 2008, 04:15 AM   #42
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Thanks, just Googled it. You're right, it looks extremely similar to Perth's. Great that it has survived, but I'd much rather we still had ours!

To be honest, though, I'm not as sad about that one as some of the others we lost. Moirs Chambers is always the first to spring to mind... what a heartbreaker.

Oddly enough, I don't mind some of the 50's/60's office boxes shown above.
Adelaide has one too and Hobart has a little half size one.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #43
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Most of the destruction of Perth's old buildings were in the 1970's. The worst examples I think are the following ones:

1. Old AMP (demolished around 1972)
2. Esplanade Hotel (demolished in 1973)
3. Metro Theatre (demolished in 1973)
4. Embassy Ballroom (demolished around 1982)
5. Capitol Theatre (demolished in 1968)

Does anyone have any exterior photos of the Embassy Ballroom? Where was it located? I've found some interior shots but no exterior ones.

My dad used to go there in the 60's and would say that it was a beautiful building.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 11:24 AM   #44
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Can't find any of the exterior either.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 01:29 PM   #45
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I have been looking for information on The Embassy Ballroom for a while now and finally have some more information on it.

I hav a feeling The Embassy Ballroom was actually part of the Capitol Theatre (maybe the left hand doors in the photo below). The Capitol was at 10 William Street which is currently where the carpark entrance to the Westfarmers Building is near the Esplanade.

The Capitol
A huge collection of programmes, posters, photos and other memorabilia told
the story of the Capitol Theatre from its opening through to its demolition in
1967. A special section was dedicated to Harry M Miller’s rock and roll
Big Shows in 1964 to 1965, including a salute to the Embassy Ballroom, which adjoined the Capitol.

http://www.perththeatretrust.com.au/...on%2007%20.pdf

21/4/1944 Friday
I was sent to RAAF Headquarters Western Area Transport section that was on
the corner of William Street and The Esplanade, Perth. The Air Force
commandeered it for the war years. Next door was the Embassy Ballroom and
the Capital Theatre

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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:14 AM   #46
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:17 AM   #47
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I always thought that where harbourtown is now would have been the perfect spot for a rectangular stadium.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:22 AM   #48
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it was but Nick fuckwit Tana said no... *shakes head*

and the liberal government wasnt very supportive... gee what a suprise! things never change with the libs!

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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:24 AM   #49
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Would have had Subi, the Rectangle Stadium and Perth Arena all practically along the same street, all connected by rail. Sigh...
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Old October 31st, 2008, 03:47 PM   #50
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it's depressing that they had the same mind set in the late 1980's but then didn't fullfil their own hopes, hopefully FP will make it happen this time.

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24/10/1987 Page Number: 4
Photo Captions: Multiplex site manager Waldemar Rymarski on the 47th floor of the R & I Tower.
Byline: WAINWRIGHT R;
Headline: Palace now a lingering shadow
Story Text: THE gutted Palace Hotel stood below - a reminder of the past.
From the top of the new R & I Bank Tower, 214 metres above St Georges
Terrace, the once-majestic hotel building appeared a lingering shadow.
All that remains is the fragile facade and central stairway.
But from the top of the R & I the views are breath-taking.
You can watch football at Subiaco Oval and the WACA Ground at the same
time.
The construction of Perth's tallest and most controversial building (48
storeys) was completed yesterday with a ceremonial concrete pour 214 metres above St Georges Terrace.
For the civic and business dignitaries watching on closed-circuit
television from the comfort of the 22nd floor, the ceremony was more than just the final touches to a skyscraper.
It signalled the start of a changing city skyline. Next to watch will be
the even bigger (50 storeys) Central Park Towers. Work has already started on the building on the old David Jones site.
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AND THIS IS JUST FASCINATING:

15/11/1988 Page Number: 22
Byline: WADDACOR G;
Headline: Disquiet as city soars skyward
Story Text: IN 1930 the old Boans store and the General Post Office dominated the Central Business District's skyline.
Fifty-eight years on the focal point of the riverside city is the newly
completed R and I Bank tower.
But in 12 years' time the 48-storey tower will be dwarfed by 55 and
60-storey towers as developers continue their race for the sky.
By the turn of the century several superstructure projects now on the
drawing board will be concrete and glass realities jutting into the heavens.
The towers will include the:
$1.2 billion Westralia Square development containing a 55-storey and twin
20-storey towers on a St Georges Terrace super-site.
$500 million, 53-storey Central Park Tower development on the old David Jones
site.
$460 million, 42-storey QV1 office and plaza complex on the corner of St
Georges Terrace and Milligan Street.
60-storey Bishop's See tower - the second stage of the St George's Square
development - on the corner of St Georges Terrace and Mount Street.
Other developments likely to alter the city's skyline are:
$100 million, three-tower Terrace Gardens office/residential complex on the
old Prestige Toyota site next to the Hyatt Regency Hotel stretching from
Terrace Road to Adelaide Terrace, which will consist of a seven-storey,
56-unit building; a 24-storey tower containing 30 serviced apartments and 72
residential units and an eight-storey office block.
$200 million redevelopment of the old Emu Brewery site on Mounts Bay Road
into West End Business Park containing seven towers ranging from four to 23
storeys surrounded by plazas and landscaped gardens. A possible redevelopment
of the neighbouring site is likely to complement the business park. Bond
Corporation recently paid $1.65 million for the site at 130 Mounts Bay Road
where the three-storey Astoria Apartments building stands.
$30 million office park development proposed for the Perth City Council's 3B
car park next to the Orchard Hotel. The 1.6ha site bounded by Wellington,
Murray and Elder streets will consist of seven buildings ranging from two to
eight storeys.
With developers aiming to curtail urban sprawl and maximise prime CBD space,
existing 55 and 60-storey proposals are likely to be superseded by taller
skyscrapers in 2000.
But will the present pace of CBD development - triggered to a large extent
by last year's sharemarket crash - continue?
Already experts are sounding the alarm on more development with many prime
commercial buildings well below their occupancy rate.
Amid the cacophony of building site noise, the Perth City Council has
frequently been criticised for encouraging the race for the sky to the
detriment of the city at eye level.
Other critics claim the council has ignored the strain on city roads by
not restricting developments to more realistic levels. They say if the pace
continues Perth streets will become a pedestrian's nightmare.
The council's fascination with high-rise developments has sparked repeated
calls by planning experts for a separate central city planning authority to be
set up.
In its review of the Metropolitan Region Scheme (MRS), the State Planning
Commission says: "The central area is of unquestionable state and regional
significance.
"The state, therefore, needs to be concerned and involved in central area
planning issues.
"There should be a review of the relationship between the SPC and the PCC
in recognition of the special role of the central area."
Other experts say the public transport system in the car-orientated city
will need a massive overhaul if the city is to cope with the influx of 100,000
commuters projected for 2021.
To this end the government is endeavouring to ease traffic congestion on
feeder roads with multi-million-dollar projects planned.
These include a new bus station at Mounts Bay Road, the electrification of
the Perth suburban rail network and the possibility of a rapid transport
system between the CBD and the northern suburbs.
With car parking coming under more pressure, Perth commuters will be
forced out of the driver's seat and on to public transport.
In its MRS review the government continues to call for decentralisation in
a bid to halt the concrete jungle's sprawl.
Already it is setting the trend with the State Government Insurance
Commission and the State Energy Commission planning to relocate their head
offices to Mirrabooka and the Herdsman business park respectively.
As CBD rentals continue their upward spiral, more and more business groups
are likely to turn away from the city in search of offices in the regional
centres.
The MRS review says that while Perth will always be the main employment
centre, its total share of the workforce will decline by 2021.
It goes on to say that the CBD should become a more specialised business,
retailing and entertainment centre and should strive to create a livelier
atmosphere to attract people other than commuters.
It says the CBD's residential component should be strengthened to give the
city added vitality and to take advantage of its special facilities and
attractions.
But whatever changes may be in store for the Golden State's capital, by
2000 its skyline will be markedly different to that which graces the river
foreshore today.
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23/10/1992 Page Number: 40
Photo Captions: TALL ORDER: Construction worker Des Kelch looks down from Perth's loftiest perch, atop Central Park.
Byline: STONEY K;
Headline: Mast caps off building boom
Story Text: PERTH's high-rise construction binge is over. It ended yesterday with the
placement of a communications mast on top of the $186.5 million Central Park
building, which bounds Hay Street and St Georges Terrace.
The past decade has been the most active high-rise construction period
seen, and has shaped the Perth skyline for the next decade and beyond.
The final moment was a particularly tall order for Kewdale Structural
Engineering construction worker Des Kelch who supervised the placement of the
22-metre spire atop the 51-storey office block.
With its new mast the building, owned by the Government Employees
Superannuation Board, reaches 261.7 metres above sea level, ending by a mere
1.6 metres the R&I Tower's four-year reign as Perth's tallest.
Within a few weeks, the CBD's sole crane atop Central Park will be
dismantled, ending the boom-time for commercial office construction in Perth.
In the past 18 months, Perth has been swamped with more than 160,000sqm of
office space following the completion of QV1 (59700sqm), Exchange Plaza
(34,010sqm), stage one of Westralia Square (33,000sqm) and the WA Mint
development (1080sqm).
Building and construction industry analysts predict a crane may not grace
another CBD building until later this decade or possibly well into the next
century.
A report by leading Australian building analyst BIS Shrapnel mid-year found
WA now had the lowest building activity levels of all Australian states.
It predicted a massive 58 per cent cut in the construction of new offices
in 1992-93 and that the sector would remain depressed until 2005-06.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 05:24 PM   #51
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Wow, some really interesting stuff there.
I never realized that even back in 1988 the idea of increased population in the CBD was recognized as a good one, I though that this was one of the most sprawltastic times.

And QV1-$460m, CP-$500m, that would have been really big money back then.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 11:49 AM   #52
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Aren't the facades coming back? What am I thinking about if they aren't?
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 11:59 AM   #54
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The dark one in the middle (The Mitchell Building) is coming back, the rest are gone (except the Wellington Building on corner which is still there)
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At least its for somethign worthwhile. We are getting a quality development, so its not a complete waste.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 12:16 PM   #56
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In 30 years though people will be sitting here calling for the ugly eyesore of 140william to be knocked down.

But I guess you can't stifle development for a few small old buildings though. That's the problem with this city, we were so small 100 years ago that not many worthy buildings could be retained in our CBD from this time period.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 12:20 PM   #57
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No, we will be looking back and telling the next generation of ssc nerdz what a good example of 2000's architecture it is.
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Sort of like the people who dont like Perth Concert Hall, when in reality it is fantastic, just not an example of current architecture. I think one40 will be able to be appreciated for a while to come.
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No, we will be looking back and telling the next generation of ssc nerdz what a good example of 2000's architecture it is.
Perhaps. But then again there were people just last week calling for the destruction of our East Perth rail terminal, and I think it's a rather good example of early 70s architecture.
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This is true.
As Dilaz said it will be th young ones calling for the demolition, and the more experienced ones pointing out its architectural merits.
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