CANADA - Stadium and Arena Development News

[Lord David]

Just look at the bid books, compare it to Beijing (which also had a lot of construction to do) and you can see which bid was far superior.

I'm sure if Toronto bids for 2024, it would be similar to this, with the exception of having most of the Pan American venues as part of the bid, primarily the Field Hockey Center, the Aquatics Center (as a secondary Aquatics venue), having the temporary venues at the same sites and so forth.

All you really need to build downtown is the Villages, Main Media Center, Olympic Stadium (100,000), Velodrome (doesn't need to be permanent) and Main Aquatics Center.

[isaidso]

I'm not arguing that Toronto wasn't capable of putting on an amazing Olympics in 2008, but that the city itself will be a far more impressive metropolis in 2024 than it was in 2008.

It's only 4 years past 2008, and Toronto has already changed significantly for the better. Lots of new skyscrapers, AGO addition, Bloor Street Improvement Project, and the waterfront redevelopment are the notable changes.

By 2024 we'll likely have another 100 skyscrapers in the core, a Nordstrom department store, re-modeled Holt Renfrew, renovated Union Station, new rail shed, an aquarium, a dedicated rail link to Pearson, a finished waterfront, a finished East Bayfront, a finished West Docklands, more streetcar, and possibly more subway lines.

That's just stuff we know about. I'd rather the world came to Toronto when our downtown core comes together more. Yonge Street is fun, but still looks terrible on large stretches of it. Toronto in 2008 would have surprised lots of people; Toronto in 2024 is going to wow them.

[elly63]

Project manager Mike Clynes gives an exclusive update on construction progress at Investors Group Field

Hitler Finds Out That the Investors Group Field Won't be Ready for the Bombers' Home Opener

[ChesterCopperpot]

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/stor...on-pan-am.html

Hamilton city council has approved a Pan Am facility agreement without knowing the costs for a soccer stadium to be built for the 2015 games at Ivor Wynne.

John McKendrick, senior vice-president of project delivery for Infrastructure Ontario, told councillors Thursday he wouldn’t give them the numbers in public because that would make it possible for bidders to figure out what is in the agreement.

“The concern is that if we publicly say what the soft costs are, bidders will be able to figure out hard costs and then contingencies,” he said.
The cost for the facility is in three categories, said McKendrick — hard, soft and contingency.

Hard costs cover construction while soft costs cover things like management, architectural and legal fees.

Councillor Lloyd Ferguson questioned why council couldn’t be told the cost before passing the facility agreement.

“It’s just bad business practice to sign a contract without knowing the cost,” Ferguson said.

Ferguson proposed that council go behind closed doors to learn the exact costs but was told that would contravene the Municipal Act.

Gerry Davis, general manager of public works, assured council that staff is “comfortable” with facility costs.

“We’ve seen the numbers. We’re within budget,” Davis said of the $51 million allocated for the stadium.

Councillors Ferguson and Brenda Johnson opposed the vote to approve the agreement.

Three bidders are in the running for the contract to design, build and construct Hamilton’s soccer stadium, as well as the track cycling velodrome and York University track stadium in Toronto.

Bird/Turner Stadium Co., Ontario Sports Solutions and United Sports all made the short-list of bidders. Each company has named their developer, architect, contractor and financial advisor.

McKendrick told reporters after the meeting that Infrastructure Ontario and Hamilton council already have the successful in mind.

The successful bidder will be announced at the end of September, he said.

[isaidso]

Good grief. What's wrong with Hamilton. Can't they get anything done right? These city 'leaders' are making the city look like a joke.

[ChesterCopperpot]

I believe Councillor Ferguson does have a background in construction.

Personally, I'd have no problems with this type of process - it's the way forward for construction projects if you ask me.

[isaidso]

Hamilton screwed up the Ti-Cats stadium plans and now the football team needs to leave town for 1 year. Hamilton lost the velodrome to another city and now to sign a contract without knowing the cost? It's been 3 years of nonsense.

[elly63]

Latest "rumours" (take with a grain of salt, but you never know) about the new Regina stadium (33,000/$278 million)

Design to be done by European architectural firm and Arena Lviv and Juventus Stadium are being considered models for the design.

Arena Lviv (Lviv, Ukraine 34,915/$278 million)






Juventus Stadium (Turin, Italy 41,000/$148 million)

[Cjones2451]

Unless they used slave labour, I don't know how Juve built it for $148M......

Originally Posted by elly63

Latest "rumours" (take with a grain of salt, but you never know) about the new Regina stadium (33,000/$278 million)

Design to be done by European architectural firm and Arena Lviv and Juventus Stadium are being considered models for the design.

Arena Lviv (Lviv, Ukraine 34,915/$278 million)






Juventus Stadium (Turin, Italy 41,000/$148 million)

[elly63]

You know, people should really learn how to use the quote function and edit their posts so we don't see the same photos ten times.

[koolio]

Both are nice examples. The fans of Regina deserve a top notch facility.

[elly63]

Yes, they do and hopefully it will be another piece in the World Cup puzzle.

[Welkin]

Why would they use either of these designs? These are soccer stadiums, not football stadiums. Soccer stadiums have way to many seats located in the end zone area (great for soccer, lousy for CFL). Lets hope that the new stadium has less than 5,000 (2,500 per side) end zone seats and keeps that area open for temporary Grey Cup expansions.

[elly63]

It will be adapted towards CFL football in the manner you stated. These are just the rumoured examples of what they are thinking of.

[Cjones2451]

This is an interesting article from the Toronto Star. If even a small % of this would happen it would be a huge amount of change in Arenas and Stadiums in Canada. 2035 is a long way off though......

http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...nce-board-says

[elly63]

Every time something new is proposed we hear from Glen Hodgson or Mario Lefebvre and the Conference Board of Canada to backup its validity.

I've found they are usually extremely bullish on their pronouncements. To me, that is fine (better than useless negativity) but sometimes they are a tad overly optimistic.

[KingmanIII]

I can see an NHL franchise working out in Hamilton and another in Quebec. Where would the third one go? Halifax? Saskatchewan? Markham?

[Cjones2451]

Originally Posted by KingmanIII

I can see an NHL franchise working out in Hamilton and another in Quebec. Where would the third one go? Halifax? Saskatchewan? Markham?

I think Markham is the only other one that would be close. I think in that it is possible to have 2 GTA teams and 1 in Hamilton

[cormiermax]

It'll probably be another 20 years or so before an NHL team is viable in Halifax, maybe double that in Sask.

[IllumL8ker]

I see (I aint jinxing but) Markham and Quebec City soon to get nhl franchises way sooner than that and Hamilton well thats like 2028-9ish maybe sooner...

The MLS teams I see 3 new ones by about that time frame 2035.

NBA and MLB I aint going to even comment on.

And 7 more cfl teams... I never even thought about that but now you say that... I see that too by 2035.