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[DarkLite]

Buena noticia pero yo hubiera querido ver Jetblue tomar esa iniciativa

[ArthurG]

Originally Posted by DiegoN

Saliendo de GUA conectando en SAL $308 cn impuestos incluidos:S.. demasiado.

Mira... el precio de los boletos es bien bien dificil de calcular. Es mas, varios CEOs de aerolineas grandes han dicho que el sistema actual es un chiste y no sirve, pero que a nadie se le ha ocurrido nada mejor XD
Esta igual que cuando los griegos decian que la democracia era un sistema pesimo de gobierno, pero no existia nada mejor.

Les dejo un articulo, es largo pero muy interesante.

Airline fares aren't fair!

Take a flight somewhere and look around you. The chances are that the person seated next to you may have paid four times more than you, for the exact same flight. Or maybe you were the sucker and paid four times more than he did! Worse still, many of the people seated in first class probably paid less for their seats than you did for your uncomfortable middle seat way at the very back, next to the toilets, galleys and engines.

Is this fair?

This week we look at why the airlines have what seem to be crazy and inconsistent pricing for the same flight. To understand this, you need to think like an airline executive and understand the problems they face.

(1) Discrepancy between Incremental and Fixed costs

Most things that are bought and sold have a high incremental (extra) cost and a low fixed cost. For example, most of the selling price for a car, or a can of soft drink, is represented by the incremental cost of making and distributing the extra car or the extra can of soft drink. Only a small part of the cost goes to fixed or overhead costs (such as the administrative salaries, the cost of the machinery, etc). But in the airline industry, the incremental costs of accepting one extra passenger onto a plane are very low, whereas the fixed costs of operating the flight (with or without any passengers at all) are very high.

No-one ever likes to discount below cost. This limits how much of a discount you'll ever get on a car, but that same limit is not present with airline tickets, because the 'cost' of the ticket is so low. As a rough rule of thumb, the incremental cost of accepting one more passenger is less than one tenth of the fixed costs (per person assuming a 70% full plane) that the airline needs to recover. For example, maybe an airline needs to get $10,000 for flying a crewed plane between two cities, and maybe the plane will normally fill 100 seats - the airline needs to get an average of $100 per passenger to cover the fixed costs. But the incremental costs of taking on one extra passenger are maybe a couple of gallons of extra jet fuel, perhaps a meal, and a small fee to the airports or baggage handling contractors - in total, maybe $5-10.

This means that if the airline can sell an otherwise unsold seat for even $20, it has made as much as $15 extra profit, even though it needs to average $100 per ticket for the first 100 seats it sells on the plane. The temptation to discount seats that would otherwise not be sold at all is the reason why you'll see a limited number of very cheap fares.

However, the airlines are also keen to keep their average ticket price close to $100, which means that if they sell a ticket for $25, they then feel they need to sell another ticket for $175 so as to keep their average ticket price close to the $100 target. This is a dreadful contradiction that airlines have to continually struggle with - the more they sell cheap tickets, the more they also want to sell expensive tickets!

They also are always very worried that the seat they sell at a discount might have been able to be sold at a higher price - this is the continual fear that they have.

(2) Seats on Flights are a Perishable Product

Obviously, once the plane has taken off, the airline has lost the opportunity to make more money selling the remaining empty seats on that plane. This means that, the closer to departure for each flight, the more desperate the airline is to sell seats that it thinks are not going to be sold.

But, there is also a contradictory force at work here - a person that needs to buy an airline ticket for urgent travel today or tomorrow is probably willing to pay just about any amount of money for the ticket, because it is very important to him to travel. So the airline, on the one hand, wants to sell these 'last minute' tickets for very high prices to 'must travel' passengers, but also would be pleased to sell them at almost any price to people that would only travel if they see an incredible bargain fare. This is another dreadful contradiction that the airlines have to struggle with - the closer to departure it gets, the less valuable the tickets are to them, but hopefully the more valuable the tickets are to potential additional travelers. How to get only high priced tickets to such last minute travelers, while also offering low priced tickets to 'discretionary' last minute travelers?

(3) Different Consumer Valuations on Tickets

People fly for different reasons. Some people fly because they have to fly; some people fly because it is more convenient, others fly because it is cheaper, and others fly for indulgence (so as to get somewhere for a vacation).

Recognizing these different factors, the same flight can be priced at different prices to appeal to these different types of travelers. For example, a flight between Los Angeles and San Francisco could be priced at $100 roundtrip to appeal to a bargain hunter looking for a cheap vacation, maybe $150 for people that will then fly because it is cheaper than driving, maybe $225 for people that will fly because it is more convenient than driving, and $300 (or more) to people that absolutely urgently have to get to San Francisco as quickly as possible.

But, obviously, even if a person is willing to pay $300 for this flight, if she can find a $100 fare, she would rather take it! So here is the third problem that the airlines have - how can the accurately restrict the low fares to only the leisure travels, the mid priced fares to the people willing to pay middle prices, and make sure that the person who'll pay top dollar is not able to buy fares more cheaply?

(4) Supply and Demand

Some flights are simply more popular than others, maybe because of time or day or day of week. A flight at 2am is not as popular as a flight at 8am. And a flight on Wednesday is probably not as popular as a flight on Friday.

However, the airline still needs to operate these flights (so as to keep a regular schedule or to move the plane to the next place it needs to be) so it needs to adjust pricing, flight by flight, to encourage people to fill up the less popular flights as well as the more popular flights.

The Airline Challenge

And so, airlines have to confront these all these challenges (and many more!) and somehow come up with an air fare structure that enables them to sell as many tickets as possible per flight, and at as high an average fare as possible.

The real Catch-22 is that for every discounted ticket they sell below their targeted average fare, they then feel the need to balance it with a higher ticket priced above their average fare, magnifying the spread between the cheapest and the most expensive tickets.

As consumers it is easy to say 'give us a simple fare structure that we can understand' and it is easy to complain about the huge discrepancies between fares for the exact same flights.

What would you do? If you were in charge of setting fares, what would you do? Remember, you want to charge as much as possible for every ticket, but you also want to sell as many tickets as possible, at any price at all, and there are a lot of people out there that will only pay bottom dollar, as well as some that will pay top dollar.

A selection of suggestions from readers can be found in this column.

Why Not Copy the 'Discount' Carriers?

Here's a surprising fact. The average fare that the 'discount' carriers receive from their passengers is not much lower than the average fare received by the 'full fare' carriers.

For example, the 2001 annual reports for United and Southwest (to choose extreme examples at both ends of the spectrum) show that United got an average 9.8c of operating revenue per available seat mile (ASM) while Southwest got an average of 8.5c. In other words, on average Southwest fares are only 13% less than United fares! (The difference is even less if measuring revenue passenger miles.)

The real success of Southwest comes not from its 'low' fares (which aren't much lower than 'normal' fares) but from its low operating costs. In 2001, United's operating cost per ASM was 12.0c, but Southwest's was only 7.5c - a massive 37.5% reduction.

The 'success' of airlines like Southwest is nothing to do with their fare policies at all, their financial success is all to do with their cost structure, not their fare structure. Traditional airlines can't copy these carriers (which should be called 'low cost' rather than 'low fare') fares because they can't also copy their costs (much as they would desperately love to).

[Kenny]

3 a la semana.

En menos de dos semanas TACA nos anuncia LIM-MEX, LIM-MIA, MCO-SAL, y vuelos directos a Cancun desde SAL.

[ArthurG]

Originally Posted by DiegoN

Total price for this trip: $867.30

Review the flight details
Sun 1-Nov-09
flight
San Salvador (SAL)
Depart 7:20 pm
to Orlando (MCO)
Arrive 11:05 pm
1,154 mi
(1,857 km)
Duration: 2hr 45mn
TA TACA
Flight: 422
Operated by: TACA INTL
3 Economy/Coach Class, Dinner, E90
Total distance: 1,154 mi (1,857 km)
Total duration: 2hr 45mn
flight train bus Mon 9-Nov-09
flight
Orlando (MCO)
Depart 6:00 am
to San Salvador (SAL)
Arrive 7:45 am
1,154 mi
(1,857 km)
Duration: 2hr 45mn
TA TACA
Flight: 423
Operated by: TACA INTL
3 Economy/Coach Class, Dinner, E90
Total distance: 1,154 mi (1,857 km)
Total duration: 2hr 45mn


el precio de esto es ridiculo :S..

No, el precio esta bien... lo ridiculo es la fecha en la que queres volar... te pongo un ejemplo? voy a buscarlo en otras fechas.
La gente quiere fares baratas pero no sabe como buscarlas.

Te lo encontre a 539 + taxes viajando esa misma semana (saliendo miercoles). Y ademas si vistes la website la gran mayoria de esos vuelos estan vendidos ya, agotados. Si es una ruta tan popular como esa a finales de año te va a salir caro viajar con ellos. Acordate que en si no pagas la milla volada, pagas mas por fechas que otra cosa

[ArthurG]

Hey una pregunta... XD
El otro mes tengo un vuelo y queria preguntarles ya que ustedes han de saber XD
SIEMPRE ME HE QUERIDO ROBAR UN FUCKING LIFEVEST del avion xD
Digo ya tengo los safety cards, ya tengo audifonos, ya tengo cubiertos de ejecutiva XD ya tengo de todo webiado de un avion menos el chaleco salvavidas... siempre lo he querido pero me da miedo que al sacarlo tenga alguna alarma o algo jajajajaja
Alguno de ustedes se ha robado alguno? XD

[Luigini]

jajajaja yo nunca

[DKNY81]

Interesante que Taca tenga vuelo hacia Orlando... Gracias por la noticia DiegoN

[Mr.Mrod]

Originally Posted by ArthurG

Hey una pregunta... XD
El otro mes tengo un vuelo y queria preguntarles ya que ustedes han de saber XD
SIEMPRE ME HE QUERIDO ROBAR UN FUCKING LIFEVEST del avion xD
Digo ya tengo los safety cards, ya tengo audifonos, ya tengo cubiertos de ejecutiva XD ya tengo de todo webiado de un avion menos el chaleco salvavidas... siempre lo he querido pero me da miedo que al sacarlo tenga alguna alarma o algo jajajajaja
Alguno de ustedes se ha robado alguno? XD

Gran poder de Dios!!

No, eso SI que me da miedo sacarlo del avión! Hahaha!!
Porque vaya, de que nadie se dará cuenta ni será usado en mucho tiempo es seguro, pero por lo menos a mi me diera cargo de conciencia sacarlo del avión, y tipo que después caiga el avión en el Rio Lempa, bien a lo USAirways

Yo que vos me animara, pero tene cuidado al hacerlo, porque si te descubren aun despues que hayas bajado del avión pueden revisar en la lista de pasajeros el tipo que iba en (por ejemplo) 9F y darían con tu nombre
Suerte!

ps: por cierto, adonde vas?

[ArthurG]

Originally Posted by Mr.Mrod

Gran poder de Dios!!

No, eso SI que me da miedo sacarlo del avión! Hahaha!!
Porque vaya, de que nadie se dará cuenta ni será usado en mucho tiempo es seguro, pero por lo menos a mi me diera cargo de conciencia sacarlo del avión, y tipo que después caiga el avión en el Rio Lempa, bien a lo USAirways

Yo que vos me animara, pero tene cuidado al hacerlo, porque si te descubren aun despues que hayas bajado del avión pueden revisar en la lista de pasajeros el tipo que iba en (por ejemplo) 9F y darían con tu nombre
Suerte!

ps: por cierto, adonde vas?

Mi papa va en un viaje de trabajo a miami y lo estoy acompañando

Bueno y mira creo que cuando se den cuenta no seria de un solo (francamente dudo que antes de cada vuelo digan: "revisen si alguien se webio un chaleco") asi que ponele que revisen una ves a los tantos vuelos no saben ni quien fue

Mira yo creo que el truco es esperar que el de alapar o se duerma o vaya bien pendiente de la pelicula y lo metes a tu equipaje de mano (asi hago yo con las tarjetas de seguridad). Como te digo lo que me da miedo es que nomas lo saque pite esa ****** o que haya un foquito en algun lado que se encienda y alguien se de cuenta.

Jajaja una ves me pasaron un video en facebook donde un maje estaba hablando de shampoos o algo (william something?) y entonces cuando se va a duchar dice que el safety es primero y por joder se pone uno de esos chalecos y jala las pitas y se infla tan heavy esa ****** que le aprieta el cuello y el baboso no puede respirar y empieza a toser jajajajajajaja

[Mr.Mrod]

Tsss, la mara que se va a ''Mayami'' xDD

Hehe, eso sí tenes razón en que no irán fila por fila revisando si habrían menos chalecos y también que se pueden agarrar las cosas mientras los ''seatmates'' estén viendo a otro lado (ie - yo hice lo mismo en Enero xD)

Yo nunca he visto ese video! Ponelo por aquí!!

Por cierto, hablando de bayuncadas dentro del avión, dejo un video de la Pam Ann, gran virga que es

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeHWELbTkhs

[Kike-]

Originally Posted by ArthurG

Bueno y mira creo que cuando se den cuenta no seria de un solo (francamente dudo que antes de cada vuelo digan: "revisen si alguien se webio un chaleco") asi que ponele que revisen una ves a los tantos vuelos no saben ni quien fue

Antes de la salida de cada vuelo la tripulacion chequea cada asiento antes de comenzar el abordaje, es parte del "Chequeo de Seguridad".

[DKNY81]

Improved Schedules in El Salvador and Costa Rica Hubs





Starting next May 7th, and always striving to offer a better flight experience to our clients, there will be a realignment on some flight schedules at the El Salvador Hub. Changes at the Costa Rica Hub started on March 1st.
At the San Jose Hub in Costa Rica

- The Santo Domingo flight arrives earlier so that passengers may connect to ground transportation to Punta Cana
- The new flight schedule between San Jose and San Salvador becomes the fourth daily connecting option
- The Panama flight now has a more convenient schedule
- Also travelers from Managua, Guatemala, San Pedro Sula, Tegucigalpa, Panama and Mexico, have benefitted with better schedules and less waiting time.


At the San Salvador Hub in El Salvador




- From North America


With these schedules, all passengers traveling from each of the origins specified below will be able to immediately connect to Guatemala, Managua and South America via El Salvador:
New York
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
TA 570 El Salvador – New York 3:15 PM 10:05 PM
TA 571 New York - El Salvador 10:55 AM 2:10 PM

Toronto
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
LR 620 El Salvador - Toronto 2:50 PM 9:40 PM
LR 621 Toronto - El Salvador 10:45 AM 2:00 PM

Washington D.C.
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
TA 580 El Salvador – Washington D.C. 2:55 PM 9:00 PM
TA 581 Washington D.C. - El Salvador 11:05 AM 2:00 PM

Los Angeles
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
TA 528 El Salvador – Los Angeles 3:05 PM 7:30 PM
TA 529 Los Angeles - El Salvador 8:15 AM 1:55 PM

- From Central America



With these schedules, all passengers traveling from each of the origins specified below will be able to immediately connect to Los Angeles, San Jose, Guatemala, Lima, New York, Toronto and Washington D.C. via El Salvador:
Managua
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
LR 717 El Salvador - Managua 2:47 PM 4:07 PM
LR 716 Managua - El Salvador 12:42 PM 2:02 PM

San Jose
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
LR 621/681 El Salvador – San Jose 2:40 PM 4:00 PM
LR 620/680 San Jose - El Salvador 12:30 PM 1:50 PM

Guatemala
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
TA 572/598 El Salvador - Guatemala 2:45 PM 3:25 PM
TA 573/599 Guatemala - El Salvador 1:05 PM 1:55 PM

- From South America
With this schedule, all passengers traveling from Lima will be able to immediately connect to North America: Los Angeles, New York, Washington D.C. and Toronto via El Salvador. Besides, all passengers traveling from El Salvador to South America, via Lima, will be able to immediately connect to their final destination.
Lima and conexions
Flight # Origin/ Destination Departure Arrival
TA 041/053 El Salvador – Lima 3:05 PM 8:20 PM
TA 040/ Lima - El Salvador 10:30 PM 1:45 PM

[DiegoN]

Cortesia Airliners.

Lindo con bandera Salvadoreña!




En LAX descansando de ese viaje de Sivar q siempre va llenisimo..

[DistritoX]

lastima que le cambiaron a bandera de C.R el a321

[YifTa7]

Originally Posted by DiegoN

Cortesia Airliners.

Lindo con bandera Salvadoreña!

image hosted on flickr

[Kenny]

Con sus permios Diego y Yifta, voy a subir estas fotos en Latinscrapers.

[ArthurG]

Hey Kenni mira has ido ultimamente (desde el cambio de imagen) al VIP de Taca aca en SAL? Lo remodelaron? Digo por que hasta hace un par de años era horrible esa ******, para que las salas normales fueran mejores.

[HOLABETO]

Taca volará de San Salvador directo a Roatán




Desde el 1 de noviembre Taca volará directo diariamente desde San Salvador, El Salvador, a Roatán, Islas de la Bahía, anunció Tomasita Ramírez, gerenta de ventas.

La aerolínea salvadoreña lanzó en la capital industrial el programa Taca Vacaciones, cuyo fin es promover el turismo en la región. Los paquetes estarán a precios competitivos e incluirán boleto aéreo, hotel, diversiones y alimentación.

Reconoció que la venta de boletos aéreos ha caído debido a la crisis, pero esperan aumentar sus beneficios con estas promociones. “Nuestro fin es fomentar el turismo nacional, promocionándolo en otros países. El mercado vacacional en Centroamérica que movemos por Taca representa el 43%”.

La ejecutiva reveló que adicionarán vuelo extra al mediodía, saliendo desde San Pedro Sula a El Salvador, que luego podrá conectarse con otros países de la región y con Estados Unidos. Actualmente existen dos vuelos a ese destino, por la mañana y por la tarde. Taca fue catalogada en 2008 como una línea aérea puntual.

[DistritoX]

Tomasita

que bien otro servicio directo, San Salvador-Roatan, ya se vio que TACA quiere conquistar el Caribe.

[DarkLite]

De veras que TACA me ha sorprendido mucho, han abierto tantas rutas, y esto en un clima poco favorable, ahora imaginensen cuantas rutas abrirá TACA en tiempos buenos