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Old December 15th, 2009, 03:24 PM   #2981
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I know you’re not from Madrid, but from Valencia. Which it’s not a bad city either, besides all the junkies who are walking around the beach area and besides some parts in the City, which really look like Ramallah or Gaza City.
What are you saying, man? I hope is a joke, a bad joke.

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For me, the matter is settled. I expect a little more respect. or ask for more. More than anything for the poor people of Gaza or Ramallah, which would like to live as half lives in Valencia or any other city in Western Europe.

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Old December 15th, 2009, 03:59 PM   #2982
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You are showing bombed buildings. I didn’t mean bombed buildings!
I visited Valancia twice. Once only a day. We stayed in Calpe, where an Uncle of mine had a house and the second time, I stayed 3 nights/4 days in Valancia. We had a great apartment, but this area/neighbourhood was full of prostitutes and African people. I'm not lying, my girlfriend said and she is correct: "these houses in this neighbourhood look like in Gaza". It also reminded some how of what I have seen on TV of Gaza to. It was total run down. For the rest I enjoyed our stay in Valancia, because it has some really nice spots and we met nice people to.
Here are 3 pictures my girlfriend made. You are lucky, she didn't make any pictures of the neighbourhood.

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Old December 15th, 2009, 04:54 PM   #2983
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Old December 15th, 2009, 05:33 PM   #2984
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Rotterdam Wilhelminapier

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Old December 15th, 2009, 05:51 PM   #2985
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What a simplistic and childish opinion. I've visited cities all over the world and the skyline of every one has wowed me in a different way. For me the 'skyline' is the city seen against the sky - turrets, spires, towers, offices, rooftops, domes, colours, juxtapositions, texture, quality, scale, drama, setting, emotion, history, expectation.... I've seen skylines that take your breath away all over the world. Europe's are as beautiful and powerful and striking as anywhere. But they have certain qualities you wont find anywhere else and those make for very, very powerful skylines of great beauty - and that includes cities without a single office tower.
Apt post. Fully agree in this regard, steppenwolf.
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Old December 15th, 2009, 06:50 PM   #2986
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Sixties' architecture draws strong passions in many people. For some there is the urge to preserve something of one of the most creative periods in British history, for others there is the urge to destroy it. Of the "Dirty Dozen" most hated buildings on Channel 4's Demolition programme, the majority were from the sixties. Ugly, outdated and old-fashioned are some of the more polite words used to describe sixties' buildings.

However, ugliness, as well as beauty, can be in the eye of the beholder, so too can outdatedness. This extract is from a newspaper report about plans to redevelop Abingdon Town Centre.

"Abingdon is fortunate - much luckier than Oxford, for instance - to have a large central site which can be redeveloped without destroying any valuable buildings...The Corn Exchange, an ugly (that word again) and inconvenient red brick Victorian building, will be no great loss. "The Corn Exchange was demolished, without tears, along with a rather grand Victorian hotel. This article is from 1964. In the sixties anything Victorian was "ugly". It could be demolished without consideration. Yet at the same time, there was a growing appreciation for the Victorian - just think of the cover of the Sergeant Pepper Album. Victorian artefacts were rapidly moving from junk to antique and a small, but growing, band of enthusiasts were trying to save Victorian buildings.

A few years ago anything from the thirties was considered "no great loss". The most famous example being the Firestone Factory. This was a beautiful Art Deco building, considered by many to be better than the Hoover Building. Yet it was in the way of a developer's plans and was bulldozed. The loss of this building led to the formation of the Twentieth Century Society. Many battles were ahead, not least an attempt to stop BT from removing every red telephone box in the country. Thanks to the work of the Twentieth Century Society many fine buildings from the first half of the last century were listed and saved from the bulldozers, but many more were destroyed.

Those most often in the firing line were new building types - lidos and cinemas. They were often on prime land - built to show the town or city concerned at its best, in the eighties they were just in the way. Weston-super-Mare destroyed a wonderful diving platform to transform the town's lido into a tasteless children's paddling pool, yet the local newspaper cheered the demolition all the way and derided campaigners, trying to save the structure, as lunatics.

Art Deco and pre-war architecture found an unlikely hero in the guise of a fictional detective. The ITV series, "Agatha Christie's Poirot" showed the thirties as modern and forward looking. The clean white lines of thirties' modernism were made popular. Film locations included the Midland Hotel at Morecambe and the Burgh Island Hotel in Devon. Interest in Art Deco multiplied. I would not say that all thirties buildings are safe, but at least public opinion is now on their side.

Now the sixties is ripe for destruction and the public is baying for everything from that decade to be wiped out. Do we really want to destroy all permanent reminders of the decade that gave us the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Mini and the E-type Jaguar?

Once again, it is new building types that are most at risk. In the sixties they were shopping centres, office blocks, multi-storey car parks, university buildings and high rise housing. Some have already been listed. Some listing decisions have been brave - Park Hill Flats in Sheffield, and Trellick Tower in London, for example. Tastes are also changing. The sixties is being rediscovered. The music never really went away and the cars are being preserved. Sixties interior design is sparking off a new fashion in home interiors - retro.

Yet we still have a problem with the buildings - why? I think on the one hand there is the Ronan Point disaster and the general failure of high rise housing to solve the problems of the Victorian slums it replaced. On the other there is politics. Sixties' architecture is identified with idealism, an attempt to create a utopia which failed. However, for the majority of sixties' buildings, the motives were mainly commercial - the same as in any period in our history. The much maligned Tricorn Centre, for example, was a commercial development to provide a new shopping centre for Portsmouth. It was not a socialist project, but purely a business development.

If we put politics aside, many buildings from the sixties evoke style and sophistication. It was the era of James Bond, of the space race and of the birth of supersonic travel. Sixties' architecture, for me, is all about cool modernism, sophistication and style. Save it now, otherwise it will soon be too late.
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You already said it on the Dutch forum, it isn't necessary to do it again.
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@Bauer-Ewald - Please, this thread is about skylines.
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Old December 15th, 2009, 08:15 PM   #2991
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Old December 15th, 2009, 08:38 PM   #2992
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And single buildings do not contribute to a skyline of city?
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Old December 15th, 2009, 09:28 PM   #2993
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And single buildings do not contribute to a skyline of city?
Apparently for the Dutch forumers that doesn't work. It's improving now but for some time most Rotterdam pics posted here were of single buildings.

Skylines are made by a group of buildings.
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Rotterdam Wilhelminapier

1997
[IMG]http://i50.************/30s8182.jpg[/IMG]

2009
[IMG]http://i49.************/21147c4.jpg[/IMG]

Can not wait for the next 12 years how it would be like!
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And single buildings do not contribute to a skyline of city?
Yes they do, but this is about skylines. And I think you where the one complaining that you wanted to see pics of skylines instead of single buildings.
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Old December 15th, 2009, 11:40 PM   #2996
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Can not wait for the next 12 years how it would be like!
in 12 years the the ******* ugly "de rotterdam" will destroy the beauty of this pier
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Are you sure?

Not to put more photos of the skyline of Rotterdam, will be the best in the world. You are full of pictures of Rotterdam the thread, thinking that it will become bigger the skyline, but the truth is that it's a decent skyline, with ugly buildings (the majority) and not too high, besides being widely dispersed. Oh and I know that obsession you have with Madrid. I'm not from Madrid, and I care little about the competition that are you two hands the Netherlands with the rest. But the reality is that even the skyline of Barcelona is better than Rotterdam:
I guess you haven´t seen these pictures before you said this?















and barcelona:


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Yeah right, barcelona and Madrid are better
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Old December 16th, 2009, 12:09 AM   #2998
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Yes they do, but this is about skylines. And I think you where the one complaining that you wanted to see pics of skylines instead of single buildings.
This is true. But this was because there were some forumers who ONLY posted single buildings or two...
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