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Old May 18th, 2009, 07:37 PM   #761
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lists of buildings over 100 m (no churches and radio towers):

Vienna
Millennium Tower: 202 m
Hochhaus Neue Donau: 150 m
Vienna Twin Towers: 138 m
IZD Tower: 130 m
VIC Building B: 127 m
Florido Tower: 113 m
Andromeda Tower: 110 m
Mischek Tower: 108 m
VIC Building A: 101 m

Liverpool
Westtower: 140 m

Birmingham
10 Holloway Circus: 130 m
Alpha Tower: 100 m
ok i agree that live and birmingham shouldnt be here. wien too.
onlt frankfurt, paris, warsaw, london,rotterdam, and maybe madrid i few years but not now
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ok i agree that live and birmingham shouldnt be here. wien too.
onlt frankfurt, paris, warsaw, london,rotterdam, and maybe madrid i few years but not now
Madrid not now....MADRID (without communication towers and over 110m)

Torre Caja Madrid........... 250m
Torre de Cristal.............. 249m
Torre Sacyr Vallehermoso. 236m
Torre Espacio................ 224m
Torre Picasso................. 156m
Torre de Madrid.............. 142m
Torre Europa.................. 120m
Edificio España............... 117m
Torre Colón.................... 116m
Puerta de Europa II......... 114m
Puerta de Europa I.......... 114m
El Faro de Moncloa.......... 110m


ROTTERDAM:

Gebouw Deltfse Poort 1..... 151m
Millennium Tower.............. 149m
Montevideo..................... 140m
World Port Center............. 138m
The Red Apple.................. 128m
Erasmus MC..................... 114m


BARCELONA:

Hotel Arts........................ 154m
Torre Mapfre.................... 154m
Torre Agbar..................... 144m
Sky Barcelona.................. 115m
Fira 1............................. 114m
Torre Realia BCN............... 113m
Edificio Colón................... 110m

WARSAW:

Palace of Culture and ........ 231m
Warsaw Trade Tower......... 208m
InterContinental Warsz....... 164m
Rondo 1-B........................ 159m
Warsaw Financial Cente...... 144m
Centrum LIM..................... 140m
Oxford Tower.................... 139m
TP S.A. Tower................... 122m
ORCO Tower...................... 115m
Millennium Plaza.................. 112m
Łucka City......................... 112m

BIRMINGHAM:

10 Holloway Circus.............. 130m
Joseph Chamberlein Clo........ 110m

LIVERPOOL:

West Tower....................... 140m

NAPLES:

Telecom Italia..................... 129m
Torre ENEL 1...................... 123m
Torre ENEL 2...................... 123m
Torre Francesco.................. 118m
Torre Saverio...................... 118m
Consilio Regionale Cam.......... 115m
New Law Courts Tower A...... 110m
New Law Courts Tower B...... 110m

WIEN:

Millennium Tower.................. 202m
Hochhaus Neue Donau.......... 150m
Vienna Twin Towers............. 138m
IZD Tower.......................... 130m
VIC Building B...................... 127m
Florido Tower...................... 113m
Andromeda Tower................ 110m

As you can see, not counting Paris (La Defense), London and Frankfurt, the next city with more buildings over 110m is ... Madrid, which also is the second most buildings 200m. Therefore, it is not that Madrid is NOW a city that has the list, isn't entirely correct.
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Old May 18th, 2009, 09:47 PM   #763
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It's not all about how high the buildings are. The density is far more important in my opinion. For example Vancouver, it aren't the highest skyscrapers, but there are a lot of them, and that is what makes it so impressive.

Also what I like in for a skyline is that the buildings are in the center of the city, and not on the borders of a city.

Those things is what I also find/like in Rotterdam, especially when you look at what is planned in the city, much highrises in the center of the city, great.

I'm not saying that Rotterdam has the best skyline in the EU, but those 2 points gives it an advantage to the other cities!
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Old May 19th, 2009, 04:31 AM   #764
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Rotterdam has many high-rise buildings in its center because of its history.
The historic center of Rotterdam was extremely damaged during WWII, Paris wasn't !

The historic center of Paris is largely intact and we wont replace Notre Dame, Le Marais or the Latin quarter, by skyscrapers.....

Anyway from the point of view of the urban area of Paris, La défense is really close the center of the city, more, Front de Seine and Montparnasse tower (210m) are inside the center of Paris !

Rotterdam after WWII bombing :

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Indeed, and Rotterdam also has a 158m u/c and a 165m u/c wich is +/- 160m right now. And I think density is more important than 4 200m+ towers on a row.
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Old May 19th, 2009, 10:29 AM   #766
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Madrid not now....MADRID (without communication towers and over 110m)

Torre Caja Madrid........... 250m
Torre de Cristal.............. 249m
Torre Sacyr Vallehermoso. 236m
Torre Espacio................ 224m
Torre Picasso................. 156m
Torre de Madrid.............. 142m
Torre Europa.................. 120m
Edificio España............... 117m
Torre Colón.................... 116m
Puerta de Europa II......... 114m
Puerta de Europa I.......... 114m
El Faro de Moncloa.......... 110m


ROTTERDAM:

Gebouw Deltfse Poort 1..... 151m
Millennium Tower.............. 149m
Montevideo..................... 140m
World Port Center............. 138m
The Red Apple.................. 128m
Erasmus MC..................... 114m


BARCELONA:

Hotel Arts........................ 154m
Torre Mapfre.................... 154m
Torre Agbar..................... 144m
Sky Barcelona.................. 115m
Fira 1............................. 114m
Torre Realia BCN............... 113m
Edificio Colón................... 110m

WARSAW:

Palace of Culture and ........ 231m
Warsaw Trade Tower......... 208m
InterContinental Warsz....... 164m
Rondo 1-B........................ 159m
Warsaw Financial Cente...... 144m
Centrum LIM..................... 140m
Oxford Tower.................... 139m
TP S.A. Tower................... 122m
ORCO Tower...................... 115m
Millennium Plaza.................. 112m
Łucka City......................... 112m

BIRMINGHAM:

10 Holloway Circus.............. 130m
Joseph Chamberlein Clo........ 110m

LIVERPOOL:

West Tower....................... 140m

NAPLES:

Telecom Italia..................... 129m
Torre ENEL 1...................... 123m
Torre ENEL 2...................... 123m
Torre Francesco.................. 118m
Torre Saverio...................... 118m
Consilio Regionale Cam.......... 115m
New Law Courts Tower A...... 110m
New Law Courts Tower B...... 110m

WIEN:

Millennium Tower.................. 202m
Hochhaus Neue Donau.......... 150m
Vienna Twin Towers............. 138m
IZD Tower.......................... 130m
VIC Building B...................... 127m
Florido Tower...................... 113m
Andromeda Tower................ 110m

As you can see, not counting Paris (La Defense), London and Frankfurt, the next city with more buildings over 110m is ... Madrid, which also is the second most buildings 200m. Therefore, it is not that Madrid is NOW a city that has the list, isn't entirely correct.
Why does your list starts at 110m and not at 100m?
Because you know that for example Rotterdam has more buildings between 100 and 110 than Madrid.
Rotterdam has 16 buildings over 100m and Madrid has 14 buildings. When I make a list with buildings from 90m then it will be Rotterdam 28 buildings and Madrid 16 buildings. That makes the Rotterdam skyline denser than Madrid’s skyline and that is the reason why I like the Rotterdam skyline more.
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Let's go back to pics, no lists (^But I agree )

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Old May 19th, 2009, 11:43 AM   #769
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So, by comparison, I'm going to show Paris's list (100m+), with some new pics:

Already Built:




Projects:







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^Lol, that's because Paris has a lot of commie blocks
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I didn't know that 8 of 100 buildings were more than four skyline over 220m. That is, if in Rotterdam has 30 buildings between 100 and 150m, would be more than 10 skyline over 200m in Madrid (or elsewhere). That is, Madrid is the second European city with the tallest buildings, with 5 over the 220m (with Torrespaña, communications tower in Madrid), and not account for some of you. Look: if Madrid had about CTBA (the area of the four skyscrapers), the Rotterdam highrises, would hardly, given the differences that exist between those four and the rest. In fact, next to the CTBA few buildings are between 80 and 90 m, and ants appear next to the four towers.

In any case, the skyline of Rotterdam is very beautiful, but filled with buildings just over 100m. In fact, the city whose images have been posted in this thread, Rotterdam is, when compared with the other (London, Paris, Frankfurt, Warsaw ...), falls far behind.

Anyway, I must say that, as someone has already written before, Rotterdam has been easier to create a zone of highrises since it was virtually destroyed during WWII, as well as Frankfurt and Paris, whose skyline doesn't belong to municipality of Paris, but close to La Defense. Those who are more complicated to create a zone, they are Madrid and London. Therefore the latter two are more scattered buildings high. Besides, I don't know in other cities, but Madrid can not build buildings in almost every city, town to preserve its structure. For example, it would be unthinkable to build highrises as was done in Warsaw, next to historic buildings. Spain was very much respected in the historic centers, and are so protected that it's forbidden to build tall buildings in its vicinity.
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^Lol, that's because Paris has a lot of commie blocks
Indeed, but all those from the list aren't, they are real towers, even the ugly ones from the 70's "Olympiade/Masséna" area (13e), which are residential, just like Manhattan ones, for example !

Do you think Manhattan has "commie" blocks ?

Anyway, as you can see, the tallest ones are office buildings...
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^No, the Manhatten ones are looking good Not as the 3 Boompjestowers in Rotterdam or commie blocks in Warsazawazawa.
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I like this one, because I find this a rear angle.
Btw. You don’t have to send a list for Paris. Paris rocks and maybe has the best skyline.
I find it hard to choose between Frankfurt and Paris. They are my number one.
London is my number 2 (or 3 how you like). Rotterdam is my number 4.
I like Warsaw’s highrises, but don’t like the rest of the buildings. They are kind of grey to me. The city misses the colours that others cities have. I prefer Benidorm above Warsaw because of it’s setting. Warsaw would be my number 6.
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^No, the Manhatten ones are looking good Not as the 3 Boompjestowers in Rotterdam or commie blocks in Warsazawazawa.

Manhattan ones :






I think Paris ones look better!!

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Frankfurt is unbeatable right now and for several years to come (because a new building boom has started).



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I didn't know that 8 of 100 buildings were more than four skyline over 220m. That is, if in Rotterdam has 30 buildings between 100 and 150m, would be more than 10 skyline over 200m in Madrid (or elsewhere). That is, Madrid is the second European city with the tallest buildings, with 5 over the 220m (with Torrespaña, communications tower in Madrid), and not account for some of you. Look: if Madrid had about CTBA (the area of the four skyscrapers), the Rotterdam highrises, would hardly, given the differences that exist between those four and the rest. In fact, next to the CTBA few buildings are between 80 and 90 m, and ants appear next to the four towers.

In any case, the skyline of Rotterdam is very beautiful, but filled with buildings just over 100m. In fact, the city whose images have been posted in this thread, Rotterdam is, when compared with the other (London, Paris, Frankfurt, Warsaw ...), falls far behind.
Anyway, I must say that, as someone has already written before, Rotterdam has been easier to create a zone of highrises since it was virtually destroyed during WWII, as well as Frankfurt and Paris, whose skyline doesn't belong to municipality of Paris, but close to La Defense. Those who are more complicated to create a zone, they are Madrid and London. Therefore the latter two are more scattered buildings high. Besides, I don't know in other cities, but Madrid can not build buildings in almost every city, town to preserve its structure. For example, it would be unthinkable to build highrises as was done in Warsaw, next to historic buildings. Spain was very much respected in the historic centers, and are so protected that it's forbidden to build tall buildings in its vicinity.
Is that your opinion? You wrote it as if it is everybody’s opinion. Sure that R’dam falls “far” behind F’furt, Paris and London, but Warsaw? Give my a break! As I said before Warsaw has a few good high rises, but I find the R’dam skyline more attractive because of the variation of buildings, it’s beautiful bridges and the most important it’s views from the waterside.
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I didn't know that 8 of 100 buildings were more than four skyline over 220m. That is, if in Rotterdam has 30 buildings between 100 and 150m, would be more than 10 skyline over 200m in Madrid (or elsewhere). That is, Madrid is the second European city with the tallest buildings, with 5 over the 220m (with Torrespaña, communications tower in Madrid), and not account for some of you. Look: if Madrid had about CTBA (the area of the four skyscrapers), the Rotterdam highrises, would hardly, given the differences that exist between those four and the rest. In fact, next to the CTBA few buildings are between 80 and 90 m, and ants appear next to the four towers.

In any case, the skyline of Rotterdam is very beautiful, but filled with buildings just over 100m. In fact, the city whose images have been posted in this thread, Rotterdam is, when compared with the other (London, Paris, Frankfurt, Warsaw ...), falls far behind.

Anyway, I must say that, as someone has already written before, Rotterdam has been easier to create a zone of highrises since it was virtually destroyed during WWII, as well as Frankfurt and Paris, whose skyline doesn't belong to municipality of Paris, but close to La Defense. Those who are more complicated to create a zone, they are Madrid and London. Therefore the latter two are more scattered buildings high. Besides, I don't know in other cities, but Madrid can not build buildings in almost every city, town to preserve its structure. For example, it would be unthinkable to build highrises as was done in Warsaw, next to historic buildings. Spain was very much respected in the historic centers, and are so protected that it's forbidden to build tall buildings in its vicinity.
They never should have build these 4 skyscrapers. Madrid has other qualities. I find it butt ugly. Madrid is a beautiful city as also Valencia is. Leave them like they are!
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For example, it would be unthinkable to build highrises as was done in Warsaw, next to historic buildings. Spain was very much respected in the historic centers, and are so protected that it's forbidden to build tall buildings in its vicinity.
Nice excuse mr highly civilized Spanian
Anyways, after the war Warsaw was pretty much a pile of rubble. Some buildings were rebuild, but most of the city is completly different than pre war city. There are no valuable historic buildings next to any scraper. You know wild people in the east respect their heritage as well, rebuilt old town is unesco listed and much respected.
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