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Frankfurt am Main - Germany 532 32.92%
Rotterdam - the Netherlands 199 12.31%
London - UK 230 14.23%
Paris - France 380 23.51%
Warsaw - Polen 275 17.02%
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Old July 5th, 2009, 02:29 AM   #1241
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My Top 5:

1. Frankfurt

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2. London

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3. Paris

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4. Rotterdam

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5. Warsaw

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I agree with you. I would just put Paris ahead of London right now. But in a couple of years I could change my mind.

In my opinion, Frankfurt takes the lead by far. It looks like an american or australian city instead of a european one. And you know, in skyscraper point of view, this is a compliment.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 02:34 AM   #1242
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Great pictures! Great London.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 05:14 AM   #1243
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Do they have heavy traffic problems in London? I cannot imagine how many drivers take their cars every day through those narrow streets of London to get to their offices in those tall and nice buildings.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 11:51 AM   #1244
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Don't they tax the cars entering the city? I think this was done to reduce traffic.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 01:15 PM   #1245
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Old July 5th, 2009, 02:20 PM   #1246
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Frankfurt seen from Seulberg, few km north of the city.



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Old July 5th, 2009, 09:42 PM   #1247
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Don't they tax the cars entering the city? I think this was done to reduce traffic.
Yes they do, but only in the city centre.
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Old July 6th, 2009, 12:10 PM   #1248
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In the middle of the crisis of the finance i would not be so happy about that
maybe you're right but it could be also a good challenge for Paris and Frankfurt :

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"Paris is quick to exploit London’s time of weakness

Financial Times
July 2, 2009

The disappointment was tangible when Paris, the hot favourite in the race to host the 2012 Olympic Games, lost out to London four years ago. But Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, now hopes to get his own back by taking advantage of London’s current difficulties provoked by the financial crisis. In short, he is prepared to invest about €50bn ($71bn) to transform Paris and its suburban regions into a vibrant modern economic hub.

This week, he confirmed his intention of accelerating ambitious plans to link the capital’s historic centre more closely with its scattered suburbs to create what he calls “le Grand Paris”. This will involve a whole host of new construction and transport projects that will clearly provide a much-needed stimulus to the economy. There are also grand plans to expand the business district of La Défense to attract more banks, insurance companies and other corporate citizens.

Meanwhile, the Paris Europlace organisation, grouping all the great and the good of French finance and industry, has been intensifying its lobbying to enhance the image and reputation of Paris as a modern international financial centre. Its obvious target is to try to capture some of the financial business that is now flowing out of London’s Square Mile by mounting a challenge to London’s lead in financial services.

For if ever there was a time to build and develop a European financial centre to rival London this is clearly it. The reputation of the City of London, and Wall Street for that matter, has taken a beating. Banks and other financial institutions have been making scores of people redundant, many of whom have now left London. Rival European centres such as Paris or Frankfurt now see their chance to recapture some of the business that had been steadily moving to London during the past two decades.

Paris certainly has a stronger case today than in the pre-crisis period. It has held up better than many other financial centres during this crisis. It has other advantages such as its geographical position and its easy high-speed rail connections to London, Brussels, Geneva, Amsterdam and now Frankfurt. It is full of smart people and fine restaurants.

Above all, it has always had governments and presidents only too willing to invest in grand projects to leave their legacy in the history books. In this respect, Mr Sarkozy is no different to the late Socialist president François Mitterrand. French presidents have traditionally been good at launching big projects and their citizens seem to like them, especially if it offers, as is the current case, an opportunity of getting even with the British.

Yet London has an embedded advantage that Paris will have trouble overcoming. Simply put, it is a question of language and culture. For English – not French – has become the universal language of business and culturally London is better suited than Paris as an international financial centre. Whatever they may say, the French remain fundamentally suspicious of wealth and their governments are interventionist by nature. Even a self-proclaimed moderniser such as Mr Sarkozy is still reluctant to do away with the country’s controversial wealth tax. He is also an ardent critic of what he calls “financial capitalism”.

Far from growing, the financial industry, if anything, is shrinking. The immediate challenge for London is to minimise the amount of business flowing out of the Square Mile back to European centres such as Paris or Frankfurt.

This could undoubtedly constitute a far bigger threat than the emergence of large new Asian financial centres such as Shanghai. For in a 24-hour global trading system, it will always be necessary to have a leading financial centre based in Europe. This is the position London needs to protect.
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On the last two pictures Frankfurt really looks like a north American City....
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Old July 6th, 2009, 01:34 PM   #1249
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At the moment nobody can challenge Frankfurt. One more proof that a nice skyline does not make a nice city.
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Old July 6th, 2009, 02:22 PM   #1250
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Old July 6th, 2009, 04:10 PM   #1251
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At the moment nobody can challenge Frankfurt. One more proof that a nice skyline does not make a nice city.
You're repeating yourself!
Of course it's not a nice city...like Warsaw and Rotterdam are not nice cities.
How could these be nice cities after totally blew away in WWII? But if this hadn't happened to these cities, I doubt that there would be many skyscrapers today. At least not in the city centers.

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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:12 PM   #1252
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^ I've been to Rotterdam and Frankfurt and I find both cities to be very nice!
I have not been to Warsaw but I know that the city wasn't destroyed in WW2

Warsaw Oldtown (with modern skyline in the far left):

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Frankfurt Oldtown

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Frankfurt Oldtown/ Modern Skyline

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Rotterdam (old part of the city):

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Rotterdam- Old and New:

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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:42 PM   #1253
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^ I've been to Rotterdam and Frankfurt and I find both cities to be very nice!
I have not been to Warsaw but I know that the city wasn't destroyed in WW2
Nice photos!
I don't know about Rotterdam but the whole oldtown of Warsaw is a reconstruction...it was ALL destroyed in WWII. And the old buildings you can see on the picture of Frankfurt are also all reconstructions.
Take a look how Frankfurt looked before WWII: Click

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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:51 PM   #1254
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Thanks!
I didn't know that, but when looking at the following picture (from Wikipedia) I guess you're right
Rotterdam was almost completely destroyed.
But- reconstruction or not, I like these cities!

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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:54 PM   #1255
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But- reconstruction or not, I like these cities!
Don't get me wrong! I also like these cities but they are definitely not the most beautiful cities in Europe.
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Old July 7th, 2009, 04:01 PM   #1256
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This is more or less the place where most of Warsaw's scrapers stand nowadays.



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Old July 7th, 2009, 04:03 PM   #1257
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That's right! Compared with Prague, Rome or Heidelberg ( ) they are a joke! But, you know:

"Only a Sith knows nothing but extremes"

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Old July 7th, 2009, 04:17 PM   #1258
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This is more or less the place where most of Warsaw's scrapers stand nowadays.
Thank you for the info, butch83!

I think we have moved a little bit from the actual topic so here is another skyline pic (Warsaw):

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Old July 7th, 2009, 04:35 PM   #1259
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You're repeating yourself!
Of course it's not a nice city...like Warsaw and Rotterdam are not nice cities.
How could these be nice cities after totally blew away in WWII? But if this hadn't happened to these cities, I doubt that there would be many skyscrapers today. At least not in the city centers.
You misunderstood me. I did not mean ugly. Hong Kong is overall pretty ugly but it is extremely lively and that makes it nice to me.
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Old July 7th, 2009, 04:56 PM   #1260
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Rotterdam was almost completely destroyed.
That's not true. 'Only' the city centre was destroyed, so the old buildings you showed are the original buildings.
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