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Old January 11th, 2009, 09:43 PM   #881
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Well said, Thanks!
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Old January 12th, 2009, 01:53 AM   #882
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more indies...
Santorini
Shelbi St. Cafe
____Smokehouse (former Fountainview Diner)
Deano's Vino
Arsenal Game Room
Brass Ring (can't remember if that's its old name or new)
Milano Inn
(these are all in the SE quadrant of downtown area, outside of Mile Square)
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Old January 12th, 2009, 01:58 AM   #883
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thunder, can I take it that means you agree with hossman?
I was disagreeing with him on the basis that the two one-ways don't need to be narrowed further than they are (or are about to be) already. The new configuration will remove the issue of pedestrians walking with their elbows in traffic.

Those streets need street parking, both for residents and to shelter pedestrians. They probably don't need three full lanes at rush hour.

They DO need to be one-way for the foreseeable future.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 02:51 AM   #884
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A few other independent restaurants downtown that I thought of:

Euphoria
Creation Cafe
Bourbon Street Distillery
Datza Pizza
Maria's Pizza
Taste of Tango
King David Dogs
Siam Square
Peppy Grill
Petite Cafe
Scotty's Brewpub
Abuela's Mexican (or something like that - on the point in Fountain Sq)
Milano Inn
Iaria's
Luxor

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Old January 12th, 2009, 02:57 AM   #885
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Old January 12th, 2009, 03:29 AM   #886
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I think we could probably go on and on with independents in the city, but I think it's safe to say that there are more indies than chains in the core of downtown. This concept was actually the very first thing I was going to write about when I started my blog. Turns out it was a much more time intensive concept to analyze than I had thought at first, but my initial research appeared to prove the central point that indies dominate downtown. One of these days I may finish the analysis!
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Old January 12th, 2009, 03:44 AM   #887
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Has anybody here seen the movie "Eagle Eye" with Shia LeBeouf? A large portion of the movie supposedly takes place in "Indianapolis". They mentioned that they going to 72 west 56th st, and I was excited to see Butler Tarkington, but it wasn't even close. It was some downtown area of a different city and the police cars were definitely not IMP. It was interesting.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 04:07 AM   #888
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I'd be interested in seeing your research. There are many, many independents - but there a large number of chain restaurants too. I definitely do not agree that independent restaurants "dominate" downtown. I'd say its closer to 50 / 50.

As I was just thinking about this however - I realized that no one had counted all of the restaurants in City Market. Those are all independents too. Probably about 20 - 25 there. Anyway -- there are a lot of chains too -- so I doubt that independents greatly outnumber chains. I think it is pretty close. One thing I would say though is that - I think in the past three years or so - the number of new independents seems to greatly outnumber the number of new chain restaurants downtown. I think that is definitely a good thing.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 04:31 AM   #889
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Has anybody here seen the movie "Eagle Eye" with Shia LeBeouf? A large portion of the movie supposedly takes place in "Indianapolis". They mentioned that they going to 72 west 56th st, and I was excited to see Butler Tarkington, but it wasn't even close. It was some downtown area of a different city and the police cars were definitely not IMP. It was interesting.
72 W. 56th would be approximately Starbucks' back door. Butler PD patrols that area...maybe they rented the Butler PD for the day.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 04:45 AM   #890
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72 W. 56th would be approximately Starbucks' back door. Butler PD patrols that area...maybe they rented the Butler PD for the day.
Yeah, I was expecting to see the starbucks, 21st Ammendmant, Illinois street food emporium, safeway, etc., but this place in the movie was filled with midrises and hundreds of pedestrians walking the block. It definitely wasn't the quaint northside village I was expecting to see. I live about 8 blocks from there.

Haha Butler PD, I had some run-ins with them my freshman year.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 02:48 PM   #891
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Yeah, I was expecting to see the starbucks, 21st Ammendmant, Illinois street food emporium, safeway, etc., but this place in the movie was filled with midrises and hundreds of pedestrians walking the block.
Sounds like they used 72 W. 56th in Manhattan.

Manhattan...Indianapolis...all cities are the same.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #892
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Has anybody here seen the movie "Eagle Eye" with Shia LeBeouf? A large portion of the movie supposedly takes place in "Indianapolis". They mentioned that they going to 72 west 56th st, and I was excited to see Butler Tarkington, but it wasn't even close. It was some downtown area of a different city and the police cars were definitely not IMP. It was interesting.
I found that quite hilarious as well. Almost as funny as the Close to Home shot of Monument Circle. There were trees and shrubs everywhere. Looked more like Central Park in NYC than the circle in Indy.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 03:43 PM   #893
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By your logic, better sites would include:

(1) Bush Stadium and along 16th over to the former Speedway auto dealerships
(2) industrial/distribution buildings just north of Fall Creek on Indiana Ave.
(3) vacant land north of Riverpoint development on WR Parkway
(4) GM plant and other industrial facilities between White River and Harding, including scrap metal facility across from IndyGo bus garage on S. Harding
(5) Cargill plant on WR Parkway
Just quick thoughts:

1. No - kills potential for beautiful riverfront development
2. Yes - might work, but looking at the first two sites, I'm more intrigued by the possibility of extending Riverside Park all the way south to Fall Creek
3. No - too close to homes
4. No way - that site is perfect for residential/TOD development, and if done correctly could transform Indy into a proper river city.
5. No way - too close to homes and potential riverfront development

By my logic, if a jail had to be downtown, tucking it into the corner of 65 would be a good place for it.

But really, as everyone's suggested here, getting it the hell out of downtown would be ideal.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 04:01 PM   #894
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I found that quite hilarious as well. Almost as funny as the Close to Home shot of Monument Circle. There were trees and shrubs everywhere. Looked more like Central Park in NYC than the circle in Indy.
I saw that too. I remember thinking "I can't wait to see what they try to pass as Indy!"

I haven't seen Close to Home. I'll have to check that out.

I also haven't seen Going All the Way which actually contains scenes filmed at the Red Key Tavern, Fountain Square, and Union Station.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 04:09 PM   #895
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I saw that too. I remember thinking "I can't wait to see what they try to pass as Indy!"

I haven't seen Close to Home. I'll have to check that out.

I also haven't seen Going All the Way which actually contains scenes filmed at the Red Key Tavern, Fountain Square, and Union Station.
Clost to Home was cancelled after only a few seasons, so you'll have to find it on dvd if it's even available.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 05:35 PM   #896
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Nice article in today's USA Today about Indy's downtown redevelopment.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 05:59 PM   #897
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Nice article in today's USA Today about Indy's downtown redevelopment.
Nice little video too.....

http://www.usatoday.com/money/econom...anapolis_N.htm
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Old January 12th, 2009, 06:09 PM   #898
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Old January 12th, 2009, 07:24 PM   #899
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Anyone see the first floor full-window wrap in the warehouse across from Conseco Fieldhouse? It says "a new city is on its way" or "a new city is coming soon." Something to that effect. It looks like it might be public art, but it also looks like it might be a development teaser.

I can't find anything about it, but I also can't remember exactly what it says, which doesn't help. :-)
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Old January 12th, 2009, 08:15 PM   #900
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Anyone see the first floor full-window wrap in the warehouse across from Conseco Fieldhouse? It says "a new city is on its way" or "a new city is coming soon." Something to that effect. It looks like it might be public art, but it also looks like it might be a development teaser.

I can't find anything about it, but I also can't remember exactly what it says, which doesn't help. :-)
I can't think of what warehouse you're talking about. West is a parking lot/Lofts, North is the Jefferson/Allen building, East is a parking garage, and south, is well nothing?
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