Davao Heritage Watch

[KulasKusgan]

The Sea Games opening ceremonies at Palembang presented the Sri Wijaya, the golden peninsula. Very similar to what we have discussed in this thread. History, culture, nature, gold.

addendum:

Philippine Eagle and Jose Rizal represented our country's float.

[dinabaw]

Originally Posted by Animo

The reason probably is that they were already a nation state prior to colonization unlike our islands (I won't call it Philippines because it didn't exist back then) which consisted of vassal states and separate chieftains. I think the indigenous tribes of Mindanao are not well realized by the majority because they are strictly only found in Mindanao.

The people in Luzón and Visayas have little or no commonalities with these tribes. Also, we have to admit that the settlers of Mindanao brought and passed down their culture and heritage (Mostly colonial inheritance but it is ours! The more we negate this fact it will just leave us desolate. A fusion for the more chic way in today's society.) to a new land. Don't get me wrong I am in the side of spreading and informing the masses about the native cultures of the region but to falsely claim that these indigenous heritage should be owned by the majority of Filipinos is quite wrong.

I am actually from Davao City but my grandparents are migrants from the Visayas. I can relate with these tribal cultures because I have seen them from Kadayawan festivals and growing up within the local culture. I believe it won't have the same effect with other people from the other islands. Just my opinion.



I agree but each islands have their own native tribes and cultures. We can't just lump them all in one.

well Indonesia have different tribes and even outnumber our own and they have more dialects than us, they are also an archipelago with more islands to speak of. China and Japan have different dynasty before they were a nation but they have PRIDE of their own culture, it's deeply rooted, rich and not foreign. Sad to know that we know the Igorots or Aetas but never we taught how rich Mindanao's culture in pre colonial time, the Spaniards tried to destroy our culture because of our pagan belief. I like to compare our culture to some Carribean nations, you cant' truly appreciate their true identity because of their colonial "mentality".

[dinabaw]

We once taught American History but never our own(true) history, We knew George Washington but never Sultan Kudarat , We all knew where New York but never Kota Bato.

[dinabaw]

Why are the Indonesian, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam have more tourist than the Philippines? Is it because of their Colonial history? It's because of their unique cultures that foreigners want to see and enjoy.

[KulasKusgan]

Originally Posted by dinabaw

Why are the Indonesian, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam have more tourist than the Philippines? Is it because of their Colonial history? It's because of their unique cultures that foreigners want to see and enjoy.

among asians, were kinda outcast. were latin. however this is something na wala rin sa ibang asean countries like unesco worlds heritage churches. maybe we can lure asians to our catholic attractions. but we also have this ethnic culture. lets just give importance sa lahat para patas. like the chinese meron ng chinatown. japanesetown will soon rise in mintal. sa mga lumads naman we honor them every kadayawan. pero kulang pa. we need to preserve and enhance their ethnic culture through separate curriculum in education similar to the madrasah to our muslim brothers. elder tribesmen will teach the younger ones how to weave and make brass ornaments. teach them to dance and sing their songs. teach them how to write and tell the stories of their ancestors. these things "lowlanders" cannot do to them. what we can do is to guide them and enhance and empower them to embrace their own culture.

[lakawero]

how will they conceptualize the Japanesetown? Is it connected with the creation of a community/village for the Japanese retirees? baka pwede na ring magtayo ng another Kokusai Daigaku dyan sa Mintal.

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About the preservation of our lumad's culture through education, may nakagawa na nito sa Lake Sebu. Grupo ng mga T'boli na nagtayo ng maliit na escuelahan para mapreserba ang kanilang kultura. Here's the site: http://www.sikat-tboli.com. This can be done nationwide/Mindanao-wide/Davao-wide as part of formal education. Kahit di na gaano ka ka-comprehensive ang pag-aaral basta more on cultural appreciation.
My greatgrandmother was a full-blooded Bagoba but I was never exposed to the culture. Good thing my internet at youtube kahit papano nakakabasa/nood about sa mga lumads.

[KulasKusgan]

Originally Posted by lakawero

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About the preservation of our lumad's culture through education, may nakagawa na nito sa Lake Sebu. Grupo ng mga T'boli na nagtayo ng maliit na escuelahan para mapreserba ang kanilang kultura. Here's the site: http://www.sikat-tboli.com. This can be done nationwide/Mindanao-wide/Davao-wide as part of formal education. Kahit di na gaano ka ka-comprehensive ang pag-aaral basta more on cultural appreciation.
My greatgrandmother was a full-blooded Bagoba but I was never exposed to the culture. Good thing my internet at youtube kahit papano nakakabasa/nood about sa mga lumads.

What I have in mind is a cultural village wherein our lumads actually live, work, study, perform. A self-sustaining community that would showcase the cultural heritage of our region. Similar to Eden Nature Park ang setup but with emphasis on cultural preservation and enhancement. A place where they plant abaca for their textile, raise livestock and produce vegetables and fruits, a place for them to weave, create brass crafts, make music, dances and perform rituals.

[KulasKusgan]

Originally Posted by lakawero

how will they conceptualize the Japanesetown? Is it connected with the creation of a community/village for the Japanese retirees? baka pwede na ring magtayo ng another Kokusai Daigaku dyan sa Mintal.

Mintal has been officially declared as the Japanese Heritage Site of Davao City, which promises the future construction of a Japanese Theme Park and the reconstruction of the Japanese Relics sites.



Many accounts have been written about Mintal, mostly from oral history of its surviving pioneers. They tell mostly of stories from the Japanese occupation, as we have read earlier. Mintal, indeed is a locality filled with rich culture coming from roots of its profound history.

The barangay was once part of a vast land peopled by the Bagobo under the leadership of Datu Intal, the Bagobo chieftain who died in 1889.
The datu left behind the legacy of his name Intal, which was subsequently changed to Mintal.

The early Japanese migrants referred to it as Mintaro. Given thus, the name Mintal can be considered as a symbol of the social transformation of Mindanao with migrants, both foreign and local, taking over the island numerically, politically, economically, and culturally.

A familiar landmark of Mintal is the Ohta Monument, a monolith in honor of Ohta Kyosaburo, considered by local historians as the “Father of Davao development.”

[skyion]

Originally Posted by KulasKusgan

among asians, were kinda outcast. were latin. however this is something na wala rin sa ibang asean countries like unesco worlds heritage churches. maybe we can lure asians to our catholic attractions. but we also have this ethnic culture. lets just give importance sa lahat para patas. like the chinese meron ng chinatown. japanesetown will soon rise in mintal. sa mga lumads naman we honor them every kadayawan. pero kulang pa. we need to preserve and enhance their ethnic culture through separate curriculum in education similar to the madrasah to our muslim brothers. elder tribesmen will teach the younger ones how to weave and make brass ornaments. teach them to dance and sing their songs. teach them how to write and tell the stories of their ancestors. these things "lowlanders" cannot do to them. what we can do is to guide them and enhance and empower them to embrace their own culture.

I have observed the Lumads know some profound things more than supposedly "sophisticated" lowlanders knew.

I remembered the narration of a Datu of an Indigenous Tribe in Bukidnon who told me his father and their fellow elders once sent a member of their tribe to study in one of the universities in the city. The member eventually returned but seemed to exhibit arrogance. His father, the Datu at that time, reprimanded his subject in a manner full of aged wisdom (paraphrased):

"I thought if we study in their schools we will gain knowledge, how come yours gained less instead."



They have deep understanding even more than the mainstream society thought it did. It felt like I was in a place full of soulful, cultured people while visitng their village, something that I can't say the same to a typical mainstream society (worse even turning jejemonic).

The Indigenous People's Rights Act will attest to it. Their domain, provided it is in synchronicity with Universality and respect the rights of women and children and of the Environment, is not even subject to Philippine government or any other governments and the legal basis is because their Culture already existed long before any government in this World existed. it is already supported internationally and it is a Landmark Law in the World.

Once I was curious with our helper, a Bagobo, kay duda ko naa gyud nahibaloan tribu nila as it is an ancient culture. I told her I met a European inventor whose concept is a futuristic levitating spacedrive vehicle (using magnetic propulsion). She was not at all surprised but instead blurted, "mao man na ginasakyan sa among katigulangan," (She refused to divulge further her knowledge afterwards, basin siguro di nako masabtan but it actually confirmed my other research ). I even talked to her about metaphysical phenomenon and she knew. I remembered talking about Physics and its being relative to indigenous patterns to an individual during an Art exhibit (had been a Physics enthusiast and had been sharing ideas with Physics folks in the international community thru internet). He was the only person I was able to converse with such topic during that exhibit, he is a Lumad from a Mindanao Indigenous Tribe and studying I believe in Law.

[KulasKusgan]

Princess Bai Rahima Usman

The Maranao is one of the eight tribes in Davao City. Their influences in the city can be observed even to this generation from music to architecture.


Maranao is the largest of the Muslim cultural-linguistic groups of the Philippines. Numbering more than 840,000 in the late 20th century. They are famous for their artwork, sophisticated weaving, wood and metal craft, and their epic literature. The word Maranao, also spelled Maranaw, means “People of the Lake”.

[chengo]

Originally Posted by dinabaw

Indonesia & Thailand didn't "highlighted" their history on their colonial past and thier rich history, and i guess they hated it. But sadly we still cling to our colonial inheritance. We should be greatful to our rich pre-colonial history and just maybe we will be a great nation again

Thailand is the only country in Southeast Asia never colonized by a European power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand

[skyion]

Originally Posted by chengo

Thailand is the only country in Southeast Asia never colonized by a European power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand

OT

Agrees. It's very interesting how Thailand's (Siam as their country was known then) monarchy managed to outwit the foreign colonizers and even gained their admiration

Thai royalty are given excellent education including deep appreciation for Culture and the Art. the present King of Thailand have an expertise on Art Photography

[mCx2]

I don't think colonial pasts of countries matter when it comes to visitors interests.most of our Asean neighbours have been colonised by the europeans and their cultures have been influenced by the settlers like what happened to Vietnam and Malaysia and Indonesia to name a few.
Mind you, the Philippines was once the flavour of the world tourism way back in the late 60s up to the early 80s.If anyone can remember that PAL used to fly to scandinavia and most of the European capital cities back then.Here in Australia I have met a number of people who told me that they have been to the Philippines on a number of occassions for their holidays back in the 70s and early 80s.
Our image as a nation is tainted during the turbulent years of the Marcos era maybe because of the negative media write-ups and that controversial Marshall Law (or is Martial?)and the consequences that ensue.these plus our left leaning idealist brothers and our extremist muslim brothers complete the whole picture of a troubled paradise to be avoided for tourists who wish to relax and enjoy after a hard work.
Now things have slowly turned around but our country needs to work hard to be noticed again by the travelling world.Honestly our coutry is value for money when it comes to a holiday destination but unfortunately we are still at an arms lenght from the radar of the tourism world.
This is our biggest dilemma,our tourism drawcards are very similar to our Asean neighbour with Bali offering very cheap holiday packages as compared to our most affordable ones.
The thing is our neighbours have been an established destinations and season after season the tourists come in droves.Look at Bali after the bombings and Thailand after the tsunami and political turmoil.Sure there was a period of negative effects during the first year but after sometime people forget and will comeback again.
The Philippine tourism department is on the right track to tap new markets like China and Russia(what with their ever growing number of their middleclass populace).
The tourism world of the middle east and the arab world have attracted the travelling public of the Russia since after the Soviet collapse.Now it's time for us to lure them to our shores.

[skyion]

Originally Posted by skyion

I have seen a boulder with human figure facing Mt. Apo's caldera too during my trek years ago, but I somehow dismissed it as coincidental natural formation....until you opened this up.


I showed the picture to a veteran trekker and told him where I saw it but he had not even noticed it there. I think I still have the hard copy on my album, will try to take a digital shot kapag may time.

this is the image I was referring about. I took it (not digital cam) sometime mid or late 90's during my trek to Mt. Apo.







this is the trace of the mysterious "face," the strange "sculpture" gazes below the caldera of Mt. Apo:





It was not easily visible, when viewed from the front it just looked like the usual borders, until viewed on this side;we had to climb a very steep hill probably about 70-80 deg. (we literally had clouds below us while climbing the steep hill with bare hands!) before I had the privilege to witness this marvelous site





Indeed the sacred mountain of our Indigenous brethrens, great and mysterious Mt. Apo.

[KulasKusgan]

there are actually numerous "faces" on the boulders...



hehe

[skyion]

in line with the discussion of stone formations in Mt. Apo and Kulas' comparison with the mysterious massive rock statues of Easter Island, I'm wondering if some people here, especially from those of mainstream, would be capable of handling such information, as it will reveal knowledge way beyond than what their conventional paradigms and "modern" mainstream educational system could ever comprehend.



recalling back, I wrote this statement from my previous post:

I even talked to her about metaphysical phenomenon and she knew.

What we had been discussing with the Bagobo girl that time was actually about Telekinesis. I informed her about my personal experience regarding such phenomenon and she actually "knew" about it. She even informed that such knowledge still thrives from among their tribe and (basics) were even taught as lessons by the Adept to some members of her tribe, including those of her age.

She preferred not to divulge further regarding the knowledge for her personal reasons that I may try to understand (considering that typical mainstream knowledge is so limited on such knowledge and even fraught with ignorance and bigotry regarding the subject) and I let her be. But it further synchronized with my personal research about the ancient continent of MU, in which its olden inhabitants, the Lemurians were adept of such kind of profound technology and that the massive rock face boulders on Easter Island, said to be an ancient remmant of MU, were supposedly constructed through Telekinesis while the continent and the Planet was still on the elevated plane of Higher Dimension before it fell to Lower Dimension after a series of cataclysms as the sinking of the MU Continent, the Flood, Polar Shift.



the ancient knowledge dated tens and hundreds of thousands of years from the PAST are still preserved and nurtured by the Indigenous Peoples of Davao and Mindanao, and this will usher for Humanity towards a more exciting FUTURE.

[KulasKusgan]

Im just sad knowing how our tribesmen suffered cultural "crisis".

btw, notice how they cultivate crops at the slopes...

[KulasKusgan]

[skyion]

Originally Posted by KulasKusgan

Im just sad knowing how our tribesmen suffered cultural "crisis".

btw, notice how they cultivate crops at the slopes...

what were they doing?

[dinabaw]

that lake is man made, as what i/ve heard!