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Old March 29th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #3241
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When is new steel going up? Its due, isn't it?
I'd imagine it's too windy. Temperature hasn't been that bad recently but just been far too windy to erect more steel.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 12:00 AM   #3242
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When is new steel going up? Its due, isn't it?
They've just finished the floor decking. I expect to see the cranes jump and scaffolding to rise either tomorrow or saturday weather permitting.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 02:05 AM   #3243
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Old March 31st, 2012, 02:17 AM   #3244
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They've just finished the floor decking. I expect to see the cranes jump and scaffolding to rise either tomorrow or saturday weather permitting.
Yes they've just finished the floor decking, but it appears the crane was jumped some time ago.

In fact four new perimeter columns have just been raised! You can see it in Earthcam. So now we should be at 10 levels above the setback :-]

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Old March 31st, 2012, 04:58 AM   #3245
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Yes they've just finished the floor decking, but it appears the crane was jumped some time ago.

In fact four new perimeter columns have just been raised! You can see it in Earthcam. So now we should be at 10 levels above the setback :-]
Good news! I forgot about that webcam's view. Six more office floors and three mechanical/parapet levels to go.

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Old April 2nd, 2012, 09:25 PM   #3246
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Should be interesting to see 4 reflecting 1.

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Old April 2nd, 2012, 09:43 PM   #3247
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Should be interesting to see 4 reflecting 1.
Yes, it certainly should be. Love when you post new renderings, Otie!

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Old April 2nd, 2012, 10:48 PM   #3248
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that would be nice, but is that possible from street level?
The high quality finish of the glass should not be a problem.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 10:14 AM   #3249
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Yes, though from that angle it would reflect the spire only.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 10:46 AM   #3250
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AMAZING renders Otie !

btw looking at your render of the top of the tower, is it true the parapet will be 3 floors high?
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 10:59 AM   #3251
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^Yes, it was necessary to add it in order to protect the mechanical equipment (practical) and to hide it at the same time (aesthetical).

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Old April 3rd, 2012, 12:19 PM   #3252
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thanks otie! you've illustrated the point beautifully ~
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 03:39 PM   #3253
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Sorry to say, it is not very well thought out. The mechanicals should be covered by a floor, with railings along the sides (for a viewing deck) and a helipad in case there is an emergency....and that lower shelf sure would be a great place to view the memorial plaza and towers 1, 2 and 3. Charge people $10 each, make mo money. IMO
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 08:30 PM   #3254
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I agree, a flat roof looks better than a parapet hiding bunch of stuff, but covering the HVAC equipment with a slab over it is not a good idea, specially if the coolers, water tanks and any HVAC related equipment needs a wide exit to exhale.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 08:49 PM   #3255
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Sorry to say, it is not very well thought out. The mechanicals should be covered by a floor, with railings along the sides (for a viewing deck) and a helipad in case there is an emergency....and that lower shelf sure would be a great place to view the memorial plaza and towers 1, 2 and 3. Charge people $10 each, make mo money. IMO
Hate to say, but there are very few emergencies in which you legitimately need a helipad. Typically if buildings are on fire it's impossible to land on them anyway. Hence, why almost no buildings in NYC have helipads. And while I agree about the first setback, this is purely an office tower. 1 WTC has your observation deck. The last thing businesses want is to be a floor above gawking tourists, especially when the building 200 feet away already offers an observation deck already. This whole thing is thought out beyond your wildest imagination, they've put hundreds of ours, if not thousands, into planning this. Also, have you realized this building is right next to 3 supertalls? A helipad would be dangerous, how is a helicopter expected to maneuver around those buildings safely, especially in an emergency? I'm sure the last thing these guys want, especially at the WTC site, is helicopters flying over the memorial, where thousands of people are, and there is a good chance the helicopter could crash.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 08:52 PM   #3256
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I agree, a flat roof looks better than a parapet hiding bunch of stuff, but covering the HVAC equipment with a slab over it is not a good idea, specially if the coolers, water tanks and any HVAC related equipment needs a wide exit to exhale.
I disagree, I love parapets. They make the building look taller, and they hide everything. I see nothing wrong with it. Plus it serves as protection from strong winds.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 10:32 PM   #3257
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I'll agree with the 'very few emergencies in which you would need a helipad'. Unless it was the one time I was in the building and the only way out was up.

This building probably has the safety items thought and re-thought a million times, also agreed. BUT one more can't hurt. The top decking above the mechanicals could be metal grates to let air in/out, AND observation is normally very separate from the office zones. Different entrance, different elevators and no access to the restricted floors. Like Top of the Rock, or the Empire State.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 11:42 PM   #3258
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Metal grates sound like a good idea to hide everything up there, I don't see any problems related.

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Old April 4th, 2012, 03:07 AM   #3259
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i love parapets too! especially glass ones

and btw according to earthcam the cocoon for the north set of new columns has already been raised. fast work up there!
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Old April 5th, 2012, 07:49 AM   #3260
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