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Old June 9th, 2009, 05:54 PM   #361
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Without any problems or delays, I think 4WTC should reach street level from the current B1 level by the end of June.
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Old June 9th, 2009, 06:14 PM   #362
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new york is simply amazing!!! wowww
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Old June 10th, 2009, 07:37 AM   #363
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What? That's not true, we've seen them pour concrete during the week.
For the core I meant.
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Old June 10th, 2009, 08:31 AM   #364
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For the core I meant.
For the north core, yes. Why is that the case again?
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Old June 10th, 2009, 10:26 AM   #365
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vibrations from the PATH station
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Old June 10th, 2009, 06:53 PM   #366
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vibrations from the PATH station
Is that going to be a problem when they start working on above ground level floors too?
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Old June 11th, 2009, 04:13 AM   #367
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nope

1WTC will probably rise at a floor per week once they get the foundation and staging complete
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Old June 11th, 2009, 04:23 AM   #368
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One would hope, it's agonizing to watch the current progress. They should be pouring concrete every day, not once every two weeks.
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Old June 11th, 2009, 04:46 AM   #369
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Is that going to be a problem when they start working on above ground level floors too?
No.
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Old June 12th, 2009, 08:45 AM   #370
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W.T.C. tower work continues despite impasse

By Julie Shapiro

There hasn’t been much good news about the World Trade Center site lately, as delays, cost overruns and disputes continue to dominate the public face of the project.

But at site meetings led by the Port Authority, an executive with Silverstein Properties said one project consistently lifts everyone’s spirits: Tower 4, which the developer is building in the southeast corner of the site.

“Everybody is more or less in awe of how fast it’s rising,” said Glenn Fidje, a construction executive with Silverstein.

The progress is still mostly invisible from street level, but that’s going to change soon. Structural steel will begin poking out of the ground in September, and the building’s concrete core will rise as well, Fidje said. Another tower crane will arrive around the end of the summer.

On a recent afternoon, scores of workers moved over Tower 4’s subgrade levels, erecting the steel rebar that strengthens concrete columns and preparing concrete molds for upcoming pours. Most of Tower 4 has risen to the B1 level, just below what will become the ground floor.

“You come out in the morning and you see something, and you come out in the afternoon and it’s different,” Fidje said as he looked out across the site. “It’s amazing.”

Fidje joined Silverstein Properties a year ago because he said he could not pass up an opportunity to work on the rebuilding of the World Trade Center.

“It’s the greatest development project in the world,” he said.

Designed by Fumihiko Maki, Tower 4 is scheduled to top out in the middle of 2011. The 64-story tower will contain retail on the first five floors and office space above, totaling 2.3 million square feet of space. The Port Authority and the city are slated to occupy two-thirds of the offices, but Silverstein has not locked in an agreement with them.

Several other pieces of the Trade Center site are moving along rapidly as well, particularly in the memorial quadrant, where steel framing the tower footprints has taken shape over the past six months. Across much of the memorial, that steel has risen nearly to street level.

The site of One W.T.C., the Freedom Tower, was busy as well, with workers below grade preparing forms for concrete pouring. Steel for the tower has risen to 105 feet above street level around one of the two tower cranes in the tower’s core.

But Tower 4 has made the most visible progress over the past several months, and Fidje credited that to the strong communication between Silverstein, contractor Tishman Construction Corp. and subcontractor Rogers & Sons Concrete. Rogers & Sons, a small family-owned firm based in Lagrangeville, N.Y. won the job over more established contractors, Fidje said.

“Every day you learn something different,” said William Sousa, a foreman with Rogers & Sons. He said Tower 4 is the biggest project the company has done, and he is seeing construction methods he never saw in his 20 years with Rogers & Sons.

At a typical high-rise, workers have a two-day concrete cycle, framing the forms one day and pouring the next. At Tower 4, the monumental floor slabs below grade require much more preparation. They are also stronger than the concrete in other buildings Rogers & Sons has done, as a security measure.

Sousa said it was important to him to be part of the rebuilding, and his 11-year-old daughter likes telling her classmates where her father works. While many people are skeptical about the World Trade Center construction, Sousa said the final product would ultimately matter more than the process.

“In end, I think it’s going to be a nice job,” he said.
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Old June 12th, 2009, 08:52 AM   #371
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Short interview with the construction executive from Silverstein Properties:
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Old June 13th, 2009, 09:09 AM   #372
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June 12th:
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Old June 13th, 2009, 12:36 PM   #373
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are ther 24 hour shifts, or is it a 8 hour workdays?
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Old June 20th, 2009, 06:43 AM   #374
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Any new pics?
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Old June 20th, 2009, 03:02 PM   #375
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It's amazing to look at that last picture and see how huge the memorial is compared to WTC4! I realize it's an important site but how many people are really going to visit it? Immediately after 9/11 Americans were very patriotic any motion all about the events. This has faded rapidly and that they that same feeling does not exist. Immediately after the attacks everyone was flying American flags on their homes and had them on the cars, where are these signs of patriotism today? They're gone and again replaced by Americans normal complacency. Except for the relatives and a few close friends people are not going to visit this memorial!
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Old June 20th, 2009, 03:09 PM   #376
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It's amazing to look at that last picture and see how huge the memorial is compared to WTC4! I realize it's an important site but how many people are really going to visit it? Immediately after 9/11 Americans were very patriotic any motion all about the events. This has faded rapidly and that they that same feeling does not exist. Immediately after the attacks everyone was flying American flags on their homes and had them on the cars, where are these signs of patriotism today? They're gone and again replaced by Americans normal complacency. Except for the relatives and a few close friends people are not going to visit this memorial!
well, itll definitely be a huge tourism destination, too. everyone in the world knows what happened there. i know for sure i will want to visit this memorial next time im in NYC.

besides, it's important to have for the nation itself. "if you forget whats happened, the past will repeat itself". well, maybe not in this case

but still, this is huge and needs to be remembered forever and ever + it's respectful to all those who died/know people who died. maybe it wont generate that much money, itll still be worth having it, IMO.
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Old June 20th, 2009, 05:19 PM   #377
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It's amazing to look at that last picture and see how huge the memorial is compared to WTC4! I realize it's an important site but how many people are really going to visit it? Immediately after 9/11 Americans were very patriotic any motion all about the events. This has faded rapidly and that they that same feeling does not exist. Immediately after the attacks everyone was flying American flags on their homes and had them on the cars, where are these signs of patriotism today? They're gone and again replaced by Americans normal complacency. Except for the relatives and a few close friends people are not going to visit this memorial!
Hundreds of thousands of visitors still flock to the Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor 70 years later. 70 years from now thousands will still be visiting the WTC memorial.
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Old June 20th, 2009, 06:17 PM   #378
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everyone who visits ny will visit the memorial. i have no idea why you would correlate America's patriotism to the number of visitors to this site LOL
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Old June 20th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #379
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It's amazing to look at that last picture and see how huge the memorial is compared to WTC4! I realize it's an important site but how many people are really going to visit it? Immediately after 9/11 Americans were very patriotic any motion all about the events. This has faded rapidly and that they that same feeling does not exist. Immediately after the attacks everyone was flying American flags on their homes and had them on the cars, where are these signs of patriotism today? They're gone and again replaced by Americans normal complacency. Except for the relatives and a few close friends people are not going to visit this memorial!
The new WTC site is going to be the new Times Square, don't worry. Everyone is going to want to come and see it, and stand at the place where 9/11 happened. Don't worry, there will be plenty of people.

And hey, this isn't China. No one is required to put an American flag on their house. How about the recent presidential election? People are just as patriotic to the country as they always were.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 03:25 AM   #380
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And hey, this isn't China. No one is required to put an American flag on their house. How about the recent presidential election? People are just as patriotic to the country as they always were.
Now people aren't required to put a flag on their home (and they shouldn't be) but they should be proud enough and patriotic enough as an American to want to put one there! After 9/11 they were but now all Americans have again become complacent. What does the recent presidential election have to do with patriotism? Yes it was a great show of the democratic process but I don't see where it shows anything about patriotism. Heck one of the candidates didn't even wear an American flag for the majority of his campaign! Face it patriotism is becoming a thing of the past and it will take another major event to wake Americans up again.
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